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Not sure if I should cry or be hopeful.. DAO warden in DAI


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It's not the fact that Warden isn't getting a cameo that bothers me. It's that despite their story being over they're once again thrown into the frying pan only to be reduced to an off screen cameo in favor of a protagonist that was so... meh.


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DA:O was the game which made the DA series so famous, DA2 was the game which made the DA series so infamousI get it that maybe they don't care about the Warden but we doOne little cameo, it is not that much but it's a great gift for the fans

they dont even gotta say anything just look like id want them to and maybe help out off screen. Id settle for that

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Hey I just enjoy watching nerd rage burn the Internet. I don't care about the source as long as it is big and long lasting. I admit it makes me a horrible person, but hey at least it means I got some enjoyment out of ME3's ending. :P

You do realize that I'm laughing at you not with you right? As much as you thought some people doesn't have better things to do than fighting in the internet, the people who have that much of a free time to spent watching those argument are pretty much the same. :P


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Not going to lie, all the Hawke bashing is making me apathetic to people being sad over the lack of Warden.


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I hope when our Inquisitor finally finds Hawke and Generic Warden guy they explain that our Warden was busy fighting 3 High Dragons Naked,Drunk and Bare Handed just for fun and thats why they aren't with them. :lol:


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It's not the fact that Warden isn't getting a cameo that bothers me. It's that despite their story being over they're once again thrown into the frying pan only to be reduced to an off screen cameo in favor of a protagonist that was so... meh.

Trrrrue



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I'm a horrible person for feeling this way but I would love watching the holy fires of nerdrage that would come forth from this. Double points if it was just a mook with a unique name. :P

No, that would be just mean.  People liked their wardens.  They want to see them and that everything worked out OK.  There's nothing wrong with that.  I'd be horribly ticked off if any of my wardens turned into any enemy, let alone a named lieutenant in a mob.  


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Not going to lie, all the Hawke bashing is making me apathetic to people being sad over the lack of Warden.

we shall not be silent til we have closure. Granted the hawke bashing is messed up but we are disgruntled by this development. I only ask you dont paint us all with the same brush.... unless its a pretty brush with red highlights

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It's not the fact that Warden isn't getting a cameo that bothers me. It's that despite their story being over they're once again thrown into the frying pan only to be reduced to an off screen cameo in favor of a protagonist that was so... meh.

 

I'm pretty certain its a question of implementation. Hawke has a "canon" appearance, voice actors, and defined personality sets, while the Warden has none of these things. Of the two, Hawke is by far the easier to put into DAI. Given that part of Hawke's story got cut due to the cancellation of the Exalted March DLC, taking the opportunity to finish of Hawke's story makes sense also.

 

While I would love to see the Warden as much as anyone, I can see why it would be an absolute nightmare for the devs to implement and why they put it in the "too hard" basket.



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Not going to lie, all the Hawke bashing is making me apathetic to people being sad over the lack of Warden.

Especially since Hawke is actually a pretty decent character; they're just not a power fantasy.


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You do realize that I'm laughing at you not with you right? As much as you thought some people doesn't have better things to do than fighting in the internet, the people who have that much of a free time to spent watching those argument are pretty much the same. :P

*shrug* I'm not defending myself on this so feel free to laugh at me as long you realize that is exactly what I'm doing. Join the faction of being a horrible person! :P

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I'm pretty certain its a question of implementation. Hawke has a "canon" appearance, voice actors, and defined personality sets, while the Warden has none of these things. Of the two, Hawke is by far the easier to put into DAI. Given that part of Hawke's story got cut due to the cancellation of the Exalted March DLC, taking the opportunity to finish of Hawke's story makes sense also.

 

While I would love to see the Warden as much as anyone, I can see why it would be an absolute nightmare for the devs to implement and why they put it in the "too hard" basket.

Making Hawkes one-dimensional is just bad

Also, we can remake them ,meaning we could remake the Warden as well

As for the voice - simply appearing would be good enough and understendable. Passing by, making a gesture, being in an epic fight - not every cameo has to be voiced



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I wouldnt be surprised if the BSN managed to spend 3 weeks making a 200 page thread filled with analyzation and theorycrafting based on a a tweet where a dev writes the letted "E" alone with no intended meaning whatsoever.

Either the warden is in the game or not. Binary. True or false. As we can imagine both outcomes, I really dont understand the fanaticism in trying to dig this info out for an answer. Sometimes I feel like Im a part of some cult in here ;)

 



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we shall not be silent til we have closure. Granted the hawke bashing is messed up but we are disgruntled by this development. I only ask you dont paint us all with the same brush.... unless its a pretty brush with red highlights

Its true the Hawke hatred is pretty intense and is unjustified in my opinion people dont hate Hawke :?  hate DA2 the true evil. :devil:



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*shrug* I'm not defending myself on this so feel free to laugh at me as long you realize that is exactly what I'm doing. Join the faction of being a horrible person! :P

*laugh* *laugh* *laugh* *laugh* *laugh* *laugh* Oh you tease, I'm already a horrible person long before our conversation, and I don't have to play nice all the time especially with people like you. Perhaps we should form a club.
 

Its true the Hawke hatred is pretty intense and is unjustified in my opinion people dont hate Hawke :?  hate DA2 the true evil. :devil:

Not going to lie I never have anything against Hawke even though I really dislike what they did with DA: II since it's turned out to be a disappointment, but tbh I'm starting to dislike Hawke because some of the character fanatical fans have to start a competition on who's better and deserve to have physical appearancein DA:I. Of course, it's unjustified but the same could be said for people who's starting to hate the Warden or DA:O because people's complaining about the Warden's absent. I also dislike BioWare's decision but I'll wait until DA: I come out then we can judge.



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I wouldnt be surprised if the BSN managed to spend 3 weeks making a 200 page thread filled with analyzation and theorycrafting based on a a tweet where a dev writes the letted "E" alone with no intended meaning whatsoever.Either the warden is in the game or not. Binary. True or false. As we can imagine both outcomes, I really dont understand the fanaticism in trying to dig this info out for an answer. Sometimes I feel like Im a part of some cult in here ;)

more a outarsge thread than cult. Some of us feel ****ed over and seen as a hassle to respect our choices

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I'm fine with our Warden not showing up in Inquisition, it's the whole "Gone, just like the Warden" thing that annoys me. If I'm gone, I'm gone. Let my imagination do the work.



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more a outarsge thread than cult. Some of us feel ****ed over and seen as a hassle to respect our choices

Well my warden left wardens and then returned in daa without explanation where still could say he will leave after solving current so well they didn't disrespect your choices as you don't know what they are doing if they appeared they would disrespect a lot of choices.



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I'm fine with our Warden not showing up in Inquisition, it's the whole "Gone, just like the Warden" thing that annoys me. If I'm gone, I'm gone. Let my imagination do the work.

only for them to to possibly butcher our pc off screen or worse.... ywitter death * dramatic music*

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Well my warden left wardens and then returned in daa without explanation where still could say he will leave after solving current so well they didn't disrespect your choices as you don't know what they are doing if they appeared they would disrespect a lot of choices.

also aware of this its a circle of disrespect to both sides and BW is thriving off this

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also aware of this its a circle of disrespect to both sides and BW is thriving off this

What sides?



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I was more worried about the Warden being under some spell of you know who. This is actually a relief to me. Perhaps something later in DLC where the Warden make an appearance.



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Too bad since the warden's much better than that crappy character "Hawke".


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im dying how poor hawke is attacked because peoples are enraged because hawke is in and warden not. :lol:  



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What sides?

ones who want their wardens showin up and those who dont. I admit in my rage im oversimplifiying things but atm this how i see things. If your warden died cool no show bioware place holder added. If they did survive and did the WH dlc i feel that we are allowed so closure since WH let more questions than answers and little closure, that is now being treated as "hey thanks for your money now go back the pit whence you came from" again im not thinking clearly due to rage. Normally im calm and understanding