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Not sure if I should cry or be hopeful.. DAO warden in DAI


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AshesEleven

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Already knew that

So we will never get some sense of closure then. Disappear forever right

Great


You really need to grow up.
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#552
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I think I the Warden commander still has a chance to still appear regardless of if it was a Import HOF if you choose that route or the orleasian. Because they said the warden from DAO which the main story of orgins story is over. The Awakening in a senese was a new slate or chapter of the previous hero or the begining of a new hero. Plus regardless of how you approach it the warden commander lives.

so even if i did awakening and every dlc with my warden. Some bioware insert hero invaldiates my world state... kick the nads my friend

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That was not a cliffhanger.

 

It was, at best, an unresolved plot point. You might also call it "sequel bait", if you prefer, but a cliffhanger is where the central conflict of the story is left unresolved pending the next chapter--and is generally done in dramatic fashion to leave you "hanging" in anticipation.

 

Wanting every lingering question answered is understandable, but that does not make it a cliffhanger. And, yes, I know that is pedantic of me, but I work with words, so there you go.

Totally not your fault, but I keep hearing the Warden is dead every time you post :P

 

I'm okay with any explanation as long as

1) If the Warden walked through the eluvian, it is acknowledged.

2) Should the Warden be not-dead, the Queen of Fereldan better have an excuse to why she left poor Alistair to fend for himself in all those court meetings. 

3) The plot/quest thing around the Warden shouldn't be a tiny sub-thing that is easy to skip (Fenris anyone). And shouldn't be tied around being somewhere really specific that you don't have to be at a random 'time' (Isabela...). I'd love it even more if it were integral.

 

Honestly, I'll be fine with anything, even death (after some wailing). This is Thedas afterall, practically anything can happen and the huge war isn't exactly helping people's prospects of living long.


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Welp. I guess I can be officially sad now. I might as well go back in my save and have him killed. The more I think about it, the less reason I have to see him survive Origins.

 

I tend to agree.  Frankly, I never expected this game to be a "continued story of the DAO Warden", nor would I want it to be, but thus far I still don't like what I'm hearing concerning what is to be done with the story of the DAO Warden.  We will see I suppose.



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I trust the writers :)
But remember it IS the inquisitors story :)

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DAO Warden is a defnite no the DAA warden is yet to be determined I senese a loop hole :o

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GDog89

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I trust the writers :)
But remember it IS the inquisitors story :)


True The Warden Commander and Hawke are support charcter in this chapter.

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I don't trust the writers.  Last time I trusted a BioWare writer I was left staring at a ceiling at night for 9 hours with bloodshot eyes (not exaggerating, I have the sleep-deprivation to prove it). If he doesn't appear physically in the game, that makes him relegated to a backseat role.  Which we all know leads to one of two outcomes in BioWare games: DEATH or EXTREME DEATH. 

 

Morrigan will probably explain how the Warden went to his Calling and died.  The End.  I am calling it now.  Either that or he did something or some other thing before tragically getting killed off pre-maturely. 



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A couple of things, to clarify without giving away much in the way of spoilers:

 

The Warden of DAO will not be seen in-game, as you already know.

 

He/she is more than simply mentioned in passing, however. There is some story, though I won't say more than that.

 

If you were expecting DAI to be "the continued adventures of the DAO Warden", however, then no, it will definitely not be that. I feel quite comfortable in saying that will never happen, sorry.

I did not say you would not find out what happened to the DAO Warden. I said they receive more than passing reference, and there is a story involving them, but you would not see them appear personally in-game.

If you really want to play the game where anything I don't directly say can be taken as confirmation, feel free. You may end up disappointed. I'll neither confirm nor deny anything further, however—you'll see exactly what I mean when you play the game.

I'm not entirely sure what to make of all this, but by the sounds of it we have a pretty good chance of at leeast finding out/resolving what happened to the Warden in regards to their disappearance which would be awesome.  So now all I have to worry about is them dying or becoming "one" with some other being or place lol....oh well I'll have to wait and see I guess.  

 

*fingers crossed for alive Warden*  :pinched:



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I trust the writers and I'm looking forward to playing Dragon Age:Not the continuing adventures of the warden


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Jwlpo

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I trust the writers and I'm looking forward to playing Dragon Age:Not the continuing adventures of the warden


Here here

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A couple of things, to clarify without giving away much in the way of spoilers:

 

The Warden of DAO will not be seen in-game, as you already know.

 

He/she is more than simply mentioned in passing, however. There is some story, though I won't say more than that.

 

If you were expecting DAI to be "the continued adventures of the DAO Warden", however, then no, it will definitely not be that. I feel quite comfortable in saying that will never happen, sorry.

 

I did not say you would not find out what happened to the DAO Warden. I said they receive more than passing reference, and there is a story involving them, but you would not see them appear personally in-game.

Sounds good to me :)



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Warden Commander Aeducan

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I trust the writers and I'm looking forward to playing Dragon Age:Not the continuing adventures of the warden

I trust the writers, and I'm still looking forward to playing any future Dragon Age game, but if it's for the best and it's too difficult to imprint the Warden.Then I don't want to see continuing adventures of the Warden and Hawke nor the Inquisitor, but just give them a real closure and treat all protagonists equally. I feel like every future Dragon Age game should have their own protagonist.


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1: i demand both ive raged for 3 days im starving*anime tears*... so hungry
2: im rolling a human mage inq first. If you'd like i can post a full bio template :)

Hell yeah tell me about your Mage pm me your Bio Template :)



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Jwlpo

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I've always been interested in playing a rogue

Anyone else play as one?

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Well, I'm of two minds about this news.  I believe that either

 

1)  we will simply find the Warden's tombstone/monument/corpse

 

or

 

2)  BioWare is milking this situation for future DLC

 

I'm going to choose to believe the second one.


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Well, I'm of two minds about this news.  I believe that either

 

1)  we will simply find the Warden's tombstone/monument/corpse

 

or

 

2)  BioWare is milking this situation for future DLC

 

I'm going to choose to believe the second one.

 

I suspect it's more that it would just be really hard to have the Warden appear, given that there was a good bit more potential customization for him/her than Hawke got, so since they know they have a shortened lifespan to work with anyway, it'll be little teasers and excuses about why the Warden can't appear from here until the inevitable "oh yeah, he/she left for the Calling" a few games down the road. 

 

There's also the fact that players feel like they've built their own character and aren't always happy with giving the creative reigns back to the game writers.  I saw a similar sort of bitterness with some players over a certain major character in The Old Republic.  Hence, one really can't blame the writers for going this route, as frustrating it is, because the unfortunate truth is that they know the other path would probably frustrate even more people.


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I trust the writers and I'm looking forward to playing Dragon Age:Not the continuing adventures of the warden

No one is asking to continue playing as the Warden. They just want to see some closure. i.e a nice cutscene between him/her and their love interest/kids, etc.


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SPOILER FOR LAST FLIGHT (kind of)

I just got to thinking the other night how awesome it would be if our warden descended from above on a griffon and helped us in inquisition, maybe to help with the elder one or destroy corypheous

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No one is asking to continue playing as the Warden. They just want to see some closure. i.e a nice cutscene between him/her and their love interest/kids, etc.

Agree, pretty sure most people just want to see their previous character show up at some point as a cameo or some *real* closure, but I'm beginning to understand why BioWare want to leave the Warden out it's nearly impossible to bring them back without upset some people because it will break theirs head canon. Still...I personally want to see three heroes stand together against the Elder One, but I suppose I have to wait until DAI come out and see how BioWare handle the Warden's closure.

Still...feel little annoyed with how most BioWare's protagonist disappear after their quest is over.


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Agree, pretty sure most people just want to see their previous character show up at some point as a cameo or some *real* closure, but I'm beginning to understand why BioWare want to leave the Warden out it's nearly impossible to bring them back without upset some people because it will break theirs head canon. Still...I personally want to see three heroes stand together against the Elder One, but I suppose I have to wait until DAI come out and see how BioWare handle the Warden's closure.

Still...feel little annoyed with how most BioWare's protagonist disappear after their quest is over.

 

Head canon are all nice and dandy for things that happen off screen and so on. But when people start to press it for stuff that happens ingame and get upset how the devs didn't follow their intricate personal wishes, to me it's just stubborn delusion. That's why I think head canons are an silly reason for not wanting the warden to return.


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Agree, pretty sure most people just want to see their previous character show up at some point as a cameo or some *real* closure, but I'm beginning to understand why BioWare want to leave the Warden out it's nearly impossible to bring them back without upset some people because it will break theirs head canon. Still...I personally want to see three heroes stand together against the Elder One, but I suppose I have to wait until DAI come out and see how BioWare handle the Warden's closure.

Still...feel little annoyed with how most BioWare's protagonist disappear after their quest is over.

I don't think it's so complicated to make a few different minor cameo appearances on the Wardens part for each general sort of ending. People act like it is, but it's not.

 

Now, an exceptionally long and complex quest experience would be another story altogether, but that's not what people are really asking for. All it would really take is some minor appearance in an already existent quest.


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Remember, an Ultimate Sacrifice Warden is a safe Warden. :P

 

Eh, it'll be interesting to see what happens.  While I like the entire "hero disappearing" thing because it lets everyone decide what happened to their PC, it can certainly get frustrating when major things are going on and your character might have reason to get involved.



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Head canon are all nice and dandy for things that happen off screen and so on. But when people start to press it for stuff that happens ingame and get upset how the devs didn't follow their intricate personal wishes, to me it's just stubborn delusion. That's why I think head canons are an silly reason for not wanting the warden to return.

True, very true. Don't get me wrong I'm one of those people who want to see the Warden returns as a cameo, but now I will wait to see how it is in DAI before puts my final judgement on how BioWare handle our previous character. Since there is no point upsetting over this now. However I still don't get why some people didn't want to see their Warden, and I also didn't get why people have started a competition between the Warden and Hawke. Why not both? Our previous characters deserve equal treatment, and both still have a part to play in the story despite that DAI is the Inquisitor's story, a little cameo wouldn't hurt. ;)
 

 

I don't think it's so complicated to make a few different minor cameo appearances on the Wardens part for each general sort of ending. People act like it is, but it's not.

 

Now, an exceptionally long and complex quest experience would be another story altogether, but that's not what people are really asking for. All it would really take is some minor appearance in an already existent quest.

Indeed, it's not that complicated but I'm not sure if BioWare want to play safe here, and they didn't want to risk upsetting some people because how they handle the Warden break player's head canon. I have told a lot of people before that it's possible to imprint the Warden for DAI although difficult but it's possible.



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I wonder if our inquisitor is going to disappear. In my OPINION, I wish we could just stick with one character in the Dragon age, and then like switch protagonist  if something come after the Age of Dragons. Don't get me wrong, I like Thedas as the main character, but everyone around the previous main characters is showing up with the new character, like Leliana, Flemeth, and Cullen.