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[Sanguinerin]

While I'd love an actual scene--Alistair and his Queen, Leliana re-united after having been searching for all this time--as long as I get some resolution, I think I'll be satisfied. I never liked the idea of my character just disappearing into the night without a trace and me not knowing why. Even if all I hear is, "the Hero of Ferelden went on this mission for the Wardens, but he/she died in the process..." at least I know something. (Of course I'd love a little more depth than that!)

 

I can understand that with a voice-less protagonist, bringing them back is also more difficult than Hawke. A cut-scene in which they don't speak could have always been done, but maybe it would be awkward in certain scenarios. Although someone could also keep interrupting them, so that they never speak before the scene ends. I'm actually imagining a few hilarious situations now in which the Warden is standing there but unable to speak.

 

However, again, as long as I know some sort of resolution, I'll be content with that!

 

I'll be honest, though. I was kind of hoping since David Gaider said (to an extent, I'm not finding the exact quote) that both Hawke and the Hero are BioWare's characters now, that we'd get to at least see the Warden in a cut-scene...but they'd be voiced by either Jennifer Hale or Mark Meer as a way of giving them voices and quietly nodding to the Mass Effect series as well.

[Chari]

To be honest I don't see why voicing would be a problem, since why do we even need it?

Cutscenes can happen without a character speaking, in the all cutscenes of DA:O the Warden never spoke and I liked it anyway (heck, Ieven loved the facial expressions). We don't need a long quest with lots of dialogues

Just... to see them being alive, powerful and awesome

[Kantr]

Some of the reasons people have for wanting their wardens to show up. Aren't reasons that I have, to have lines mentioning the queen of Ferelden as a warden or stuff about it. When your warden is a dwarf or mage. Wouldnt be seen by me.

 

Sure It would be interesting seeing the warden, but based on what David Gaider has said. I will look forward to what they do have about the warden

[Jwlpo]

To be honest I don't see why voicing would be a problem, since why do we even need it?
Cutscenes can happen without a character speaking, in the all cutscenes of DA:O the Warden never spoke and I liked it anyway (heck, Ieven loved the facial expressions). We don't need a long quest with lots of dialogues
Just... to see them being alive, powerful and awesome

Probably not worth animating sign language in lol

[Chari]

Probably not worth animating sign language in lol

Sign language, seriously?

Gestures are one of the most important parts of the language, communication. Ask linguists and they'll tell you that more than half of information people get during the information is thanks to the gestures and mimic. It's mostly subconsious information, but still very important

[Jwlpo]

Sign language, seriously?
Gestures are one of the most important parts of the language, communication. Ask linguists and they'll tell you that more than half of information people get during the information is thanks to the gestures and mimic. It's mostly subconsious information, but still very important

Very true Very true

In retrospect I was expecting Mark meer and Jennifer hale to do the voices for them

It would have been hard none the less

[Ieldra]

So basically the Warden's story hasn't been finalised and you're not yet sure how it's going to end. I appreciate the information but surely, in some game at least we'll find out what the hell happened to our Warden, something other than "he went through the mirror and we lost him".

LOL, how did you get THAT from David Gaider's post? He said we will hear of our Wardens and it will be more than a mention-in-passing.

I should say, however, that vague is good unless I have reason to believe the vagueness hides something terrible (looking at you, ME3 original ending). I do not want to be told what happened to my Warden. If I can't play them myself and influence what happens to them, I want to be free to imagine what happens.

[Ieldra]

The Warden will die anyways, no one escapes the Calling except for Fiona but I doubt the Warden could pull that trick.

Says who? I envisioned my main Warden as the kind of person who might find out how to do it.

Anyway, I think there will be considerable change in the Wardens due to the events of DAI.

[Ieldra]

I feel this is a bit of a missed opportunity, considering all the potential stuff that could be added. And before you say it, I'm well aware that it's no longer the Warden's story. However, given that the majority of his/her love interests make an appearance (Cullen included in a way, if you flirted with him in the mage origin), and most likely won't be all together again for DA4, it's unlikely this kind of opportunity will present itself again. 

Still, I understand if you want to play it safe, given the backlash that was DA2, but I for one respect the idea that the Warden is no longer ours and would just like to see how things could have played out, now that the reigns are back in the writer's hands. For instance, I romanced Morrigan and had the OGB with her. And even if the OGB is not integral to the plot, a scene with the Warden looking after his son (or saying goodbye before his Calling), would have been a nice bit of closure.

And here we go again. I would hate such a scene because it would imply (a) that my Warden goes on his Calling in parallel to DAI's events and ( that there was some kind of ongoing family life with my Warden, Morrigan and the child. My main Warden did not go with her for that.

[jtav]

What I really want is for my Warden to be packed off to her Calling. She should have died in DAO but having DAA make sense took priority.

[Ieldra]

DAO Warden is a defnite no the DAA warden is yet to be determined I senese a loop hole

In case you hadn't noticed: those two are identical for most players. And for games where they weren't, people tend to be considerable less attached to the Orlesian Warden.

[Ieldra]

I trust the writers and I'm looking forward to playing Dragon Age:Not the continuing adventures of the warden

*Chuckles*

I never trust writers. A part of their task is to deliver drama and tension, and that means that bad stuff happens to people I care about, and I can never tell in advance if it's the kind I'd take in stride as part of a good story or react with throwing the book into a corner.

It has nothing to do with good or bad writing (as much as some people tend to equate "I don't like it" with "It's bad"). There are just some things I dislike enough that they'd ruin things for me. I grant the DA team that they have never delivered such to me, as opposed to the ME team. That's good and makes me hope, but trust? Never

 

Having said that, i do expect DAI to be good in several aspects, but as I said, that's completely independent from the question of whether I like the story.

[jtav]

Yeah, writers are evil. And the more they like a character, the more they make them suffer. At least that's how it works for me.

[TheKomandorShepard]

Yeah, writers are evil. And the more they like a character, the more they make them suffer. At least that's how it works for me.

Hardly at least here in case most overused characters in series (read leliana and alistair) were companions with least amount of suffering. 

[Jaison1986]

It's like they do this on pourpose. I mean, It's pretty obvious that if they put an guy in warden armor in the EoT trailer along with Hawke and the Inquisitor, almost everyone would assume who that person is. It seems like an really cruel tease from the devs.

 

And another thing. Hawke will have personality types that can be chosen in the keep. So I don't see why it would be so outlandish to do the same for the Warden.

[Sifr]

While the 30 year rule is not written in stone, having the Warden go on their Calling after a scant decade would a downer ending, even though this is pretty much part and parcel of the whole gig.

 

I suppose you could handwave it as being a side-effect of the Dark Ritual (for those who performed it), so that the intense strain on their system from slaying the Archdemon and having it try to soul-surf into them before being deflected to the OGB accelerated the progress of the Taint? Or that for the Dalish Warden, being already Tainted prior to becoming a Warden means they'll probably die sooner than most other Wardens?

 

But even with those potential caveats, the Warden really shouldn't be going on their Calling for a least another decade or two?

[Ieldra]

What I really want is for my Warden to be packed off to her Calling. She should have died in DAO but having DAA make sense took priority.

If I was the writer, I'd make this dependent on whether you imbibed Avernus' potion. You did it = you live longer.

 

Edit:

And I agree with Sifr that the Warden going on their calling now would be a downer.

[TheKomandorShepard]

It's like they do this on pourpose. I mean, It's pretty obvious that if they put an guy in warden armor in the EoT trailer along with Hawke and the Inquisitor, almost everyone would assume who that person is. It seems like an really cruel tease from the devs.

 

And another thing. Hawke will have personality types that can be chosen in the keep. So I don't see why it would be so outlandish to do the same for the Warden.

 

Because warden wasn't limited to 3 personality sets and you were creating your own?

 

 

While the 30 year rule is not written in stone, having the Warden go on their Calling after a scant decade would a downer ending, even though this is pretty much part and parcel of the whole gig.

 

I suppose you could handwave it as being a side-effect of the Dark Ritual (for those who performed it), so that the intense strain on their system from slaying the Archdemon and having it try to soul-surf into them before being deflected to the OGB accelerated the progress of the Taint? Or that for the Dalish Warden, being already Tainted prior to becoming a Warden means they'll probably die sooner than most other Wardens?

 

But even with those potential caveats, the Warden really shouldn't be going on their Calling for a least another decade or two?

To be honest i see calling as very cheap solution because some wardens could leave wardens and pretty major thing that the warden found way around that.Im fine with their death but not in such way . 

[Ieldra]

Hardly at least here in case most overused characters in series (read leliana and alistair) were companions with least amount of suffering. 

I suggest you play "Leliana's Song".

[TheKomandorShepard]

I suggest you play "Leliana's Song".

Why this is about her being betrayed (i played in that) what we know already in dao what was pretty much 1 short event in her life that she spend in luxury not mention she had it coming.  

[Sifr]

If I was the writer, I'd make this dependent on whether you imbibed Avernus' potion. You did it = you live longer.

 

I completely agree that this should be a Keep option, should the Warden appear further down the line.

 

Avernu did after-all mention that the concocution was the culmination of his research thus far, so I can't see why he'd not include the process in which he was attempting to circumvent the 30-year-rule within it? Sure, even with the potion he probably used a ton of Blood Magic to increase his longevity and most Wardens probably wouldn't be able to do that, but it'd be nice if drinking it wasn't just a dropped plot point?

 

Same with the draught Hawke is able to acquire in DA2 if you spared him, which could mean Avernus was able to strengthen non-Wardens as well? (Assuming that the draught is even something that canonically exists and wasn't just included as a minor boon for importing A Warden's Keep save?)

 

 

To be honest i see calling as very cheap solution because some wardens could leave wardens and pretty major thing that the warden found way around that.Im fine with their death but not in such way . 

 

Same, I'm fine with the Warden dying but not if it was a cheap and unsastifying way to simply get rid of them so we can move onto another protagonist.

 

It's kind of why I'm one of those who's not sure how they felt about the treatment of Revan in both SWTOR and the prequel novel, since it rendered everything his character went through in the novel relatively moot and was just build up for the Jedi Knight's storyline. And the unceremonious killing off of the Exile just plain annoyed me.

[raging_monkey]

Marketing. A good portion of the fan base doesn't follow the forums or bioware@twitter & facebook. They see a dude in Warden armor next to Hawke and the Inquisitor and DA:I jumps to their 'must buy' list. Gotta admit, it's effective.

those fiends preying on the poor masses XD

[TheKomandorShepard]

Marketing. A good portion of the fan base doesn't follow the forums or bioware@twitter & facebook. They see a dude in Warden armor next to Hawke and the Inquisitor and DA:I jumps to their 'must buy' list. Gotta admit, it's effective.

Well if person cares about warden to the point it is for them "must buy" such person would rather follow such things or at least search for information whether warden is in game or not in fact all you need to do is read comments under trailer on yt.Bio was rather quick in telling us it wasn't the warden peoples were trying got around it in fuct some people still are trying to do that.If devs use that i rly can't blame them for them as peoples would do that anyway...  
   

[massmp]

A couple of things, to clarify without giving away much in the way of spoilers:

 

The Warden of DAO will not be seen in-game, as you already know.

 

He/she is more than simply mentioned in passing, however. There is some story, though I won't say more than that.

 

If you were expecting DAI to be "the continued adventures of the DAO Warden", however, then no, it will definitely not be that. I feel quite comfortable in saying that will never happen, sorry.

 

Well, I respect and accept this decision....but for me it is also a little bit unfair, because Mike Laidlaw already confirmed that Hawke/The Champion will appear in-game, and that you can customize his/her appearrance. So why not do the same for The Warden? DA:O was in my opinion one of the greatest RPG´s ever made and this game has a very special place in my heart and now for the Warden not making an appearance, makes me also disappointed! You could at least give him a cameo or something like that. I never wanted DA:I to be the continued adventures of the DAO Warden............