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[Neverwinter_Knight77]

They sometimes do - remember when the comics about Alistair were published? In those comics, it was assumed that in the first game, Alistair was made king. The reason for this, Bioware said, was because a majority of the people who played the game made Alistair king, and he's also king in their canon.

I'm surprised to hear that. Very rarely did I ever make Alistair king. Cousland married the queen on my human playthrough, and my city elf became a bann, so Anora remained queen... I try to make sure that either the Hero of Ferelden or Alistair (or both) remains active with the Grey Wardens in my playthroughs.

[Clockwork_Wings]

At this point, I almost expect that they will pull a Jacob on us Zevran fans...

It's a she...

I hope not.  I can't imagine one content he's going to have, but I hope it's not...that.

 

Maybe he becomes the guildmaster to the Crows?

 

*letter from the Crows* You have impressed the husband of my beloved queen.  The crows are at your disposal.

[Loraella]

The way he is posed in the picture may be significant considering the subject matter of Last Flight. Or it may not be...

 

I think a lot of the outrage is really silly. There is so much in any of the endings except ultimate sacrifice that is left unresolved and so much more the Warden's have learned since we saw them last, to think the Warden/Warden-Commander has nothing better to do than chase around what appears to be a perfectly capable (likely the only capable person) Inquisitor as an NPC would be a bit insulting to both of them. 

[raging_monkey]

Ill admit ive been one of the guys who fanned the flames but im calm now so perhaps i can clarify

In short: we assumed cause hawke was in the trailer and implied remarks the warden would come back. Now with news we are understanably outraged, some more than most. But now the we've calmed down we are willing to wait and see if they are just royally ****ing with us or enjoy bioware most expansive and masterpiece game

[BobZilla84]

I am fine with the Warden not coming back in DAI but seriously B-Ware give us closure for the Warden.Oh and there better be a damn good reason for you pulling a Revan with our Wardens a reason that makes sense. 

 

And you better have a explanation for how a Queen Cousland/Prince-Consort just up and vanished because I know for sure Alistair would tear Thedas apart trying to find his wife.And I believe Anora would do the same for her husband so I hope for a good reason for their going missing.

 

I am hoping that Morrigan,Alistair,Leliana & Anora all have alot to say about our Wardens especially if they were the wardens LI or married to the Warden.

 

Zevran ,Anders,Fenris,Merrill,Isabella & Sebastians Romances will all get the Codex treatment most likly and maybe a brief mention. 

[shackleshotgun]

I sort of understand why they decided not to have Warden appear in DAI. I think the biggest reason is that every Warden is different, and there is no way to pull it off without making a lot of people angry (you know how DA fans can get). Not to mention the voiceacting issue, it would be too expensive to hire 6 (or whatever) different voiceactors for the same character. They can't just blatantly ignore him/her either, so it's probably going to be just passing mentions and references.

[BobZilla84]

I am fine with passing mentions and refrences as long as the character gets closure I get that DAI is the Inquisitors story but come on just give The Warden & Hawke the closure that they deserve and I am fine. 

 

And so help me if I have to kill my Warden in DAI I will start an Exalted March against Bioware.

[The Elder King]

As I said in another thread, I like my Wardens a lot more then my Hawkes. I'm still fine With the Former not appearing in DAI.
I don't really care about previous characters reappeaering or not, or Bioware using them after the end of the game's they were the PC of.
I do understand why people are pissed about it, and I'm Sorry for them.
I do want to see how they're going to be mentioned, possibly by former companions as well. I'll see during the game how they wrote Those references.

[Nefla]

I'm totally happy with the warden not showing up in DA:I, I just don't want them killed offscreen for us to find as a random ghoul or skeleton.

[Moirin]

I was sooo looking forward to remaking my Warden with the frostbite engine.

[Lilium]

I was sooo looking forward to remaking my Warden with the frostbite engine.

 

Me too 

[Felya87]

I'm totally happy with the warden not showing up in DA:I, I just don't want them killed offscreen for us to find as a random ghoul or skeleton.

 

if the Warden must die (and after all the work or creepyness people had to do to have them alive it would be like a serious case of bad and distastefull trolling) she deserve at least a good earned fight guided by the hands of the player, and a glorious cuscene with LI and people recognizing her valor and mourning. 

[The Elder King]

if the Warden must die (and after all the work or creepyness people had to do to have them alive it would be like a serious case of bad and distastefull trolling) she deserve at least a good earned fight guided by the hands of the player, and a glorious cuscene with LI and people recognizing her valor and mourning. 

The Dark Ritual?

[KoorahUK]

Vague hints that can be easily misinterpreted are exactly that. All this "outrage" is a bit much folks, we were not promised anything.

I get it, I do. I loved my Wardens as much as any of you but leaping on some ambiguous answer from a dev while game is still being developed, slapping on a coat of head cannon and rubbing down with wish fulfilment is only going to get you a lovely cabinet of disappointment 9 times out of 10. Yet some comments here seem to be going down the "broken promise" and "betrayal" route.

I don't know why BW aren't giving us a straight answer but its clear that over speculation tends to lead to over expectation and eventual disappointment. For the sake of your blood pressure folks, expect little and hopefully be surprised.

[Gorguz]

I'm not upset. The Warden had his story, and a good one. Hawke didn't, they had to bring him back to give him a proper ending.

My bet is: the warden is in Weisshaupt. He brought the OGB there, babysitting and training him while Morrigan is away. What would be cooler than a mage with an old god soul trained by the best warriors and mages in Thedas.

Or he went in the deep roads for his calling, and we are going to find his body surrounded by tens of dark spawn. I doubt this is a possibility, the warden drunk Arvenus potion, and now he can use the taint as a fuel for new powers.This may slow down its "side effects".

[Ieldra]

Really, I wonder why so many people desperately want to see their Wardens in DAI. Granted, I would like to see them as well, but it's far more important - in fact, so much more important that their appearance as such becomes completely irrelevant in comparison - that they won't do anything I won't like to them, such as getting them killed, possessed, end up as the Elder One's retainer, forcing us to kill them or getting character development in a direction I would detest.

 

Also, it would be immensely difficult to recreate their physical appearance, and a face-concealing helmet just doesn't cut it, even more so if your Warden is a mage. To say nothing of letting them speak: they might get to say things we would hate just because their writers derived motivation from decision options in the wrong way. 

 

Which means that for all intents and purposes, it's probably better if our Wardens do not make an appearance. The same, btw, applies to our Hawkes. About either, I would like to hear, in some way, what happened to them, but I'd rather not have an appearance in person. Unfortunately, that ship appears to have sailed in case of Hawke, so I can only hope their appearance will be generic enough that I won't have any problem with it, and that they'll look at least somewhat like my Hawkes.

[Lilium]

 

 

Which means that for all intents and purposes, it's probably better if our Wardens do not make an appearance. The same, btw, applies to our Hawkes. About either, I would like to hear, in some way, what happened to them, but I'd rather not have an appearance in person. Unfortunately, that ship appears to have sailed in case of Hawke, so I can only hope their appearance will be generic enough that I won't have any problem with it, and that they'll look at least somewhat like my Hawkes.

 

I believe a dev said that if they bring Hawke back they'd make sure we have a chance to re-create them. So it's really just a matter of tinkering with the cc. 

The voice also wouldn't be a problem and since we pick a dominant tone for them in the Keep (I believe) that should fix that.

So the only problem would be what happens to Hawke in DAI...

[Felya87]

The Dark Ritual?

 

yep. Is quite creepy and bad to have to see Alistair do the DR with Morrigan. Sending your man to be forced to have sex with another woman he would not touch even with a broomstick is creepy, but is the only way to have both Warden and Alistair alive. 

 

If the ritual could be performed by the Warden herself and Alistair (and since Morrigan surely use some kind of magic to make her fertility foolproof, it would have not be a big stretch having a female warden fertile just to have this GodKid.) and than the baby taken away from Morrigan, it would have been more heart-wrecking (the only kid the Warden can ever have must be taken away from her) and give a chance for female Warden to go trough the Eluvian with Morrigan (would a mother not take the chance to see her child grow up, even if it means leave behind her lover?)

 

The fact is: everyone was quite happy with the phate of their respective Wardens, but in DA2 Bio had to disintegrate everything with a phrase. Now is just right that we have back the endings we have worked on for our Warden.

 

the "Warden disappear" work only for those who have gone with Morrigan trought the Elluvian. Not for all the others.

[VyseSkern]

I agree about the fact the Warden story is over, I already say it several times that's why I'm glad she/he won't appear in DA:I

They just need to mention her/him at least once and end of the story (a litle bit more if she/he was Leliana's lover but that's all).

 

Not Hawke, her/his, story is far from being over like DAII conclusions suggested it. Because of Cassandra and Varric, I always felt DA:II like a prologue to a greater story and bringing Hawke back, giving her/him a major role would be also a logical.

[Ieldra]

The fact is: everyone was quite happy with the phate of their respective Wardens, but in DA2 Bio had to disintegrate everything with a phrase. Now is just right that we have back the endings we have worked on for our Warden.

 

the "Warden disappear" work only for those who have gone with Morrigan trought the Elluvian. Not for all the others.

"The Warden disappeared" is generic enough that it doesn't need to be a problem. It could be as simple as them doing some follow-up investigation on the last Blight and telling only their closest confidants why and where exactly, so that Cassandra wouldn't know. However, it makes people worry, and that's not a good thing to do in advance if you don't know exactly what's going to happen as the writer. More seriously, it makes no sense whatsoever that Leliana wouldn't know more if the Warden and she were lovers.

 

I think it's quite possible these continuity issues are the result of both the lack of fine-tuning and QA time for DA2 and the abandoned DLC. I expect a silent retcon of the Leliana problem, and everything else can be set up to fit with no contradictions.

[Darkly Tranquil]

I feel like there is an "ME3 ending" level PR disaster about to unfold...

[Ferretinabun]

I have honestly no idea why anyone was expecting the warden to return at all given how unfeasible that is.

 

Anyone who has been holding out a serious expectation of this until now is, frankly, delusional. This idea should have been shot out of the water long before now.

[Jwlpo]

I just wish Bioware confirmed this earlier
:C

[Ray561]

I have honestly no idea why anyone was expecting the warden to return at all given how unfeasible that is.

 

Anyone who has been holding out a serious expectation of this until now is, frankly, delusional. This idea should have been shot out of the water long before now.

People expected it because in the The Enemy of Thedas trailer they had Hawk standing there with a Warden ( Many assumed it was the Orlisian Warden from DAA.)  I some big showdown with a boss of some kind and if people are upset because the protagonist that they want to see the least is the one showing up again while The Hero of Ferelden get's the shaft again.

[Lilaeth]

I was sooo looking forward to remaking my Warden with the frostbite engine.

I wasn't - Frostbite toons are quite ugly.