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[Uccio]

I don't think that the straight female options are ugly or unattractive.  

 

Yes well, you are a woman so you can´t really speak for men. Personally I don´t like Cassandras "tought cookie" look (or short sweaty/greasy hair). Woman can be strong willed and still be feminine and sexy ala Morrigan for instance. Or be plus size with those traits. I know, I have one at home (but I bet Bio will never go that way). Besides, whining is best done in the forums, after all they are for voicing opinions and these are just those. Opinions.

[CarrionFowl]

Yes well, you are a woman so you can´t really speak for men. Personally I don´t like Cassandras "tought cookie" look (or short sweaty/greasy hair). Woman can be strong willed and still be feminine and sexy ala Morrigan for instance. Or be plus size with those traits. I know, I have one at home (but I bet Bio will never go that way). Besides, whining is best done in the forums, after all they are for voicing opinions and these are just those. Opinions.

 

Of course, you have a point there... I know I can't speak for men, since I lack the necessary equipment (little joke here^^) and I didn't mean to. Opinions are opinions and as Varric said, they're like testicles... you kick them hard enough, it doesn't matter how many you got^^

 

EDIT: I should have probably added the little word 'personally' in my original post, now that I think about it... Wow, I keep forgetting that one has to tread lightly when discussing the romance thing *gg* And no, that wasn't against you, Ukki, it's just something I noticed^^ I know we were just talking here^^ I just usually take especial care to word my posts extremely neutral so I don't sound like a dimwit or an idiot^^ A mistake I learned the hard way in the old Cullen-thread *rofl* 

[Asdrubael Vect]

females have more romance options than anyone especially more in difference and quality than straight males

 

if we does not count bisexuals so they have 3 different and males have only Cassandra

 

and the hell i do not understand some people who portrait Cassandra like some kind of "saint flower knight"...some kind of very faithfull saint ladyknight...no she as any Templars and especially Seekeres are not and never was

 

her brother was killed infront of her and that was worst than Meredith(with her sister mage) have and she is hate and kill mages without any care for who they are for entire life

 

she from very young age was raised and trained by Orlais Chantry to be zealot who obey orders even more than Temaprls and hunt to kill mages and protects Elite Chantry priests and execute Templars who was week to do their job...Templars is not a Seekers who are not jailers but executers with even more absolute obeyment to the Orlais Chantry and Order laws and more rights then Orlais Temaplars and Chivalier have

 

entire life of Seekers is to obey and serve Orlais Chantry and to Order laws(even Templars scared of their zealot minds)..Cassandra for more than 10-20 years was not just a Seeker but a Hand Of Divine sinse Beatrix 3

 

they does not have any personal life especially someone like Cassandra and she is absolutly does not have and simply cant have any romance ofrfriendship relationship with any mage or her order members...her work is hunt and kill mages and heretics

 

and she is sure have no crush on Hawke..the only what she is say that Varrrick story about Hawke duel with Arishok sounds more romantic..and Varrick does not say that Hawke was mage and blood mage..and noone exept Orsino, Meredith and some of his friends does never know about it

 

especially then he is fights for Templrars

[aTigerslunch]

Also, Ukki cant talk for all of us straight men either.....just saying, since your calling it out on her. I know I cant, but also know many men that will try romancing Cassie, not enough to make a diagram of population counts.....bleh too much jibberish there...

 

 

 

We are only limiting ourselves, all 8 options are open to anyone that is willing to try them, and I am going to be trying majority of them. Black Wall, Solas and Cullen as of right now are a no, till I talk to them, then I might consider seen their romance arc.

[Bayonet Hipshot]

The thing is, Bioware CAN make attractive females. They are just not romanceable.

 

Look at Vivienne, Morrigan and Leliana. Morrigan's looks are much improved in the latest trailer as opposed to the hideous one we got the first time around, Leliana and Vivienne look classy as ever. 

 

Compare this to Cassandra, Josephine and Sera. The trio look ugly compared to Vivienne and Leliana. That's just fact. 

 

Cassandra in DA 2 looked decent. She was a perfect combination of butch and femininity. Her face in DA2 was feminine and yet she had short hair and the brusque attitude. In DAI however, they gave her a manjaw, scarred her face and make her look middle aged. I honestly prefer DA2's Cassandra as opposed to DAI Cassandra and one must remember that DAI has more graphical potential than DA 2.

 

Sera's face looks like a tomboy. Compare this with Dorian, who looks outstandingly handsome. She has a hot looking body though so that's not too bad. 

 

Josephine from the distance look good. However on close inspection, has what appears to be sports, warts and marks on her face. Contrast this to Leliana and how she looks from far and close up. 

 

The interesting thing is, making the romanceable female options look ugly in contrast to the non romanceable females costs more money. It takes more assets to make a face old, scarred, having masculine jaws and have spots as opposed to not doing that. 

 

One would have to wonder if there is an agenda being pushed here. Its as if the biologically pretty females are being put out of reach but the ones who look old, scarred, boyish...That's the only ones we got...

 

There is already a ton of not very good looking and ugly women and men in real life. Take a walk around and you will see what I mean. Old, with lots of lines, fat, etc. That's the norm, especially in North America.

 

At the very least, the fantasy that one engages in should be the opposite because fantasy is escapism. Why is it that straight women get to have their escapism with the handsome Cullen and manly Ser Beefcakes but not women ? Why is it that straight women get men that are biologically attractive but not straight men ?

 

I however am not in favor of romance DLCs. Bioware can make good looking females. They just don't want to make them romanceable. Since I play on PC this will not be a problem because of mods. 

[WildOrchid]

Yes well, you are a woman so you can´t really speak for men.

 

LOL

 

 

And what about the men who, clearly, have different tastes than yours? Are they disguised as women? Also anyone can speak for anyone, it's not about gender but tastes.

 

 

I'll give you a lil hint: stop generalizing. Your "tastes" may be different to anyone else's. Doesn't mean ALL MEN think like you.

[CarrionFowl]

Also, Ukki cant talk for all of us straight men either.....just saying, since your calling it out on her. I know I cant, but also know many men that will try romancing Cassie, not enough to make a diagram of population counts.....bleh too much jibberish there...

 

 

 

We are only limiting ourselves, all 8 options are open to anyone that is willing to try them, and I am going to be trying majority of them. Black Wall, Solas and Cullen as of right now are a no, till I talk to them, then I might consider seen their romance arc.

 

It's okay, like he said, he was voicing an opinion and its fine to do that^^

 

As for me, I'll try and romance all of them, since I find the limitations that get thrown at the player intresting rather than annoying^^ Maybe I'll even try out Cullen at some point, but only if he's at least worked part of the stick out his arse *lol* Otherwise... well, no thanks^^ I still remember my annoyance at a particular mage from DA2 who just wouldn't shut the hells up^^ Hope Cullen wont do that, otherwise he'll have to spend the majority of the game at the Keep^^

 

EDIT: I meant the Skyhold, not the Keep...

[Bayonet Hipshot]

LOL

 

 

And what about the men who, clearly, have different tastes than yours? Are they disguised as women? Also anyone can speak for anyone, it's not about gender but tastes.

 

 

I'll give you a lil hint: stop generalizing. Your "tastes" may be different to anyone else's. Doesn't mean ALL MEN think like you.

 

Generics are generics for a reason my dear. 

 

Straight men generally like youthful, fit, long haired, pleasant disposition kind of women. Youth and long hair indicate good genes. Pleasant disposition indicate compatibility, all of which are qualities that the human male ape look for in his mates. 

 

Straight women generally like men who make good protectors and providers. Gruff,manliness and athletic ability indicate toughness and the ability to protect which is what the human female ape look for in her mates. 

 

The human ape evolved these preferences due to evolution. That is why, across ages, the sexes' idealism of one another has not changed. If this is not the case then we would not see the majority of human apes having these preferences. 

 

This is not sexism or something bad. This is biology. Perhaps you do not know what that word means. Perhaps to you, there is only liberal arts where scientific generics are myths. In biology we have generics all the time, including human mate preferences. 

[Uccio]

LOL

 

 

And what about the men who, clearly, have different tastes than yours? Are they disguised as women? Also anyone can speak for anyone, it's not about gender but tastes.

 

 

I'll give you a lil hint: stop generalizing. Your "tastes" may be different to anyone else's. Doesn't mean ALL MEN think like you.

 

Well, like I said. It is a opinion and I said personally. I wasn´t speaking for men generally, and CarrionFowl got my meaning so we are cool.

[aTigerslunch]

Keep trolling Vect.   Sorry, but your a troll now in my eyes. You ignored what I wrote.  FYI: Seekers do disobey the Chantry, they did break from the Chantry....sorry but you killed your own argument.

 

 

Cassie "flower knight"?  She has flowers or roses or hearts...in a rush right now cant look at this moment. You act like you know her when you haven't talked to her.

 

4 female options you say?   4 for the elven straight woman only (by the way, it is 2 male options, cant ignore bisexuals), 3 for the human females and ONLY 2 options for the straight dwarves and qunari females.  2 for the male straight, cant leave Josie out.  At this point, after this post. Your considered a troll to me, and wont be worth anymore of my focus, less you can stop and think clearly before posting again.

 

You, have not talked to Cassie yet, so don't tell her if she hates mages or not!  Only Devs actually know her, and not all Devs for that matter.

[Panda]

This is not sexism or something bad. This is biology. Perhaps you do not know what that word means. Perhaps to you, there is only liberal arts where scientific generics are myths. In biology we have generics all the time, including human mate preferences. 

 

People still will have preferences and even biology of humans changes. For example different cultures look different attributes, I remember this quite recent research that revealed that straight women in my country prefer guys who have more femine look since they are seen as people who take care of family instead of manly one's who are seen as unfaithful and not caring of doing house chores.. So it's not just simple as: women like what female apes like ^^;

[Asdrubael Vect]

Keep trolling Vect.   Sorry, but your a troll now in my eyes. You ignored what I wrote.  FYI: Seekers do disobey the Chantry, they did break from the Chantry....sorry but you killed your own argument.

 

 

Cassie "flower knight"?  She has flowers or roses or hearts...in a rush right now cant look at this moment. You act like you know her when you haven't talked to her.

 

4 female options you say?   4 for the elven straight woman only (by the way, it is 2 male options, cant ignore bisexuals), 3 for the human females and ONLY 2 options for the straight dwarves and qunari females.  2 for the male straight, cant leave Josie out.  At this point, after this post. Your considered a troll to me, and wont be worth anymore of my focus, less you can stop and think clearly before posting again.

 

You, have not talked to Cassie yet, so don't tell her if she hates mages or not!  Only Devs actually know her, and not all Devs for that matter.

1)they disobey new divine who because with Wynne go against Chantry and Order and was weak to do her job like previous divines...they do this because they does not have other choices..they try to execute wynne and do not let Fiona do rebelion but they failed and because Divine was not do what she must Seekers with Tempalrs go away to do for what their Order stands for more than 1000 years

 

We know what she is for what she was raised and trained and what she is do her entire life before Inquisition

 

what you and some people talk about Cassandra not make any sense and you simply blindly put away all what she is and what she is do...the same with Cullen fans who portrait him as some kind of innocent paladin...and with lelianna who was a bastard prostitute killer her entire life

 

 

2)and what it change? i personaly ask the same to add at least 1 different straight race restricted romance for non-humans like Solas and Cullen, like what straight females have..with their whole different romances for any taste...and gays and lesbians have really different romances

 

i and many ask different option on romance for straight males for those who are not a humans non-mages who support Orlais Empire/Orlais Chantry/Teaprls

 

ask for 3 males Inquisitor non-humans and mages and to add female non-human(because we lack of females and non-humans females) companion who will represent not a pro Orlais/Chantry/Templras faction like Dalish, Rebellion Mages,nonandrastian barbarians like Avars/Chasind Orzammar/KalSharok Dwarves, Nevarrans, Tevinter(not exiles like Dorian but a real magister or soldier), Tal Vahsots waht would be in game and we can forge alliances with them

 

.....who will not be a human non-mage and pro Orlais/Chantry/Templars sided only romance because even if Cassandra and Josepine is available for all races and classes they are not created that way, they have another nature and personality like Lelianna and Sebastian or Fenris..

 

you forget simple fact that even if you can deal with their nature they will never romance you if you will do what YOU wanted and for what you stand

 

..all companions will romance you if you will do what please them and stand for what they stand....and they will never romance you if you will go and fight against Orlais Empire, Orlais Chantry, Templars...if you support rebellion mages,"heretics", dalish and others who oppose everything for what peoples like Cullen, Cassandra and Josephine with Vivienne stand for..and others like Bull who sure will not like that you are anti Qunari

 

 

 

you simply does not read anything what i and many peoples wrote for months and just put your lines without any attencion and respects on other opinions waht you does not want to read and to understand, you are simply calling all people trolls after you put your crap

 

it is not matter about numbers but differense and choices..and straight males does not have it compare to all others...they have lame and mostrly the same humans non-mages pro Orlais/Chantry/Templars nature Li's

[10K]

Biology please, I'll take a well aged woman with a well defined jawline like Cassandra or a bald headed tattooed rock star like Jack any day. Long hair and a super model appearance is too mainstream for me 

[WildOrchid]

People still will have preferences and even biology of humans changes. For example different cultures look different attributes, I remember this quite recent research that revealed that straight women in my country prefer guys who have more femine look since they are seen as people who take care of family instead of manly one's who are seen as unfaithful and not caring of doing house chores.. So it's not just simple as: women like what female apes like ^^;

 

And yet people don't get the meaning that humans are SO different.....

[CarrionFowl]

Biology please, I'll take a well aged woman with a well defined jawline like Cassandra or a bald headed tattooed rock star like Jack any day. Long hair and a super model appearance is too mainstream for me 

 Me too^^ I'd rather take a bearded, grisly guy with lots of chesthair than those 'good-looking' posterboys that seem so popular right now^^ I'm having a feeling that Blackwall will be my first Romance option in Inquisition *rofl*

[Little Princess Peach]

oh gods not another romance thread.....why not add a sex dlc why where at it my gwad

Bioware I was only joking please do not do such a thing....

[Vapaa]

As a poster suggested, I sound spoiled. Well that may be the case, but aren't we all in some way? I work hard at a labor intensive job to make ends meat. I know it's only a game, but I like to get the most bang out of my buck. I don't think anyone would pay for an option they do not want on their car or house. So, that's why I made this post, so people could "opted out" if they didn't want to spend their money on a mechanic of the game they're not intrested in. Again, thank you.

 

Thing is, you are buying the wrong car/house.

 

If you want a game with a sea of straight male romances, might I suggest you the Witcher series ? becaus eyou won't get that with DAI, and you didn't even get that in DAO or DAO.

[CarrionFowl]

oh gods not another romance thread.....why not add a sex dlc why where at it my gwad

Bioware I was only joking please do not do such a thing....

 

I'm just here for the entertainment of it all^^ Want a share of my snacks? 

[Asdrubael Vect]

Thing is, you are buying the wrong car/house.

 

If you want a game with a sea of straight male romances, might I suggest you the Witcher series ? becaus eyou won't get that with DAI, and you didn't even get that in DAO or DAO.

again with your Witcher whine

 

Witcher what is the visual novel about book character Gerald(i am personaly tired of this old witcher for who we have a whole books series what is more than 20 years old and i and many want a RPG with character creation...it is goodthat Cd project say that 3 Witcher is the last game about herald)

 

and nope he have only 2 and in the last one only 1 short romance with Triss(and many Witcher books fans does not like her because Herald for them must be with Yennefer only what is his true love and wife),,,other sex scenes is the same "romances" as flirt option with Isabella and blooming rose in DA2

[WildOrchid]

again with your Witcher whine

 

Witcher what is the visual novel about book character Helard(i am personaly tired of this old witcher for who we have a whole books series what is more than 20 years old and i and many want a RPG with character creation...it is goodthat Cd project say that 3 Witcher is the last game about herald)

 

and nope he have only 2 and in the last one only 1 short romance with Triss(and many Witcher books fans does not like her because Herald for them must be with Yennifer only what is his true love and wife),,,other sex scenes is the same "romances" as flirt option with Isabella and blooming rose in DA2

 

"Geralt"

"Yennefer"

"Isabela"

[Vapaa]

again with your Witcher whine

 

Witcher what is the visual novel about book character Helard(i am personaly tired of this old witcher for who we have a whole books series what is more than 20 years old and i and many want a RPG with character creation...it is goodthat Cd project say that 3 Witcher is the last game about herald)

 

and nope he have only 2 and in the last one only 1 short romance with Triss(and many Witcher books fans does not like her because Herald for them must be with Yennifer only what is his true love and wife),,,other sex scenes is the same "romances" as flirt option with Isabella and blooming rose in DA2

 

Whatever, the point is; straight males are not the only target of romances in the Dragon age series, so if you want more straight male romances, you're looking in the wrong place.

[Asdrubael Vect]

Whatever, the point is; straight males are not the only target of romances in the Dragon age series, so if you want more straight male romances, you're looking in the wrong place.

i said before what i(and not the only one) want..i personaly want more options rather than numbers, want difference in romances not the same 2 type of romances who was created by their nature for the only 1 group of peoples

 

all romances what sraight males have are created for humans non-mages who would support Orlais/Chantry/Temaplars..all others like straight females and gays with lesbias have choices and differences...and yeah straight females have more than anyone by the numbers, by the quality and by the difference

 

and yeah i want nonhumans females(because we have a huge lack of representation of females and non-humans females in party) companions/advisors who will represent groups of people with who we can side with like dalsih, rebellion mages and others....those who are not a pro Orlais/ Chantry/Temaplrs

[daveliam]

The interesting thing is, making the romanceable female options look ugly in contrast to the non romanceable females costs more money. It takes more assets to make a face old, scarred, having masculine jaws and have spots as opposed to not doing that. 

 

One would have to wonder if there is an agenda being pushed here. Its as if the biologically pretty females are being put out of reach but the ones who look old, scarred, boyish...That's the only ones we got...

 

There is already a ton of not very good looking and ugly women and men in real life. Take a walk around and you will see what I mean. Old, with lots of lines, fat, etc. That's the norm, especially in North America.

 

At the very least, the fantasy that one engages in should be the opposite because fantasy is escapism. Why is it that straight women get to have their escapism with the handsome Cullen and manly Ser Beefcakes but not women ? Why is it that straight women get men that are biologically attractive but not straight men ?

 

 

I can't even anymore.  I just can't......

[Little Princess Peach]

I'm just here for the entertainment of it all^^ Want a share of my snacks? 

nah feeding off the Op's tears when they find out we wont get such a dlc is enough for me

[CarrionFowl]

The thing is, Bioware CAN make attractive females. They are just not romanceable.

 

Look at Vivienne, Morrigan and Leliana. Morrigan's looks are much improved in the latest trailer as opposed to the hideous one we got the first time around, Leliana and Vivienne look classy as ever. 

 

Compare this to Cassandra, Josephine and Sera. The trio look ugly compared to Vivienne and Leliana. That's just fact. 

 

Cassandra in DA 2 looked decent. She was a perfect combination of butch and femininity. Her face in DA2 was feminine and yet she had short hair and the brusque attitude. In DAI however, they gave her a manjaw, scarred her face and make her look middle aged. I honestly prefer DA2's Cassandra as opposed to DAI Cassandra and one must remember that DAI has more graphical potential than DA 2.

 

Sera's face looks like a tomboy. Compare this with Dorian, who looks outstandingly handsome. She has a hot looking body though so that's not too bad. 

 

Josephine from the distance look good. However on close inspection, has what appears to be sports, warts and marks on her face. Contrast this to Leliana and how she looks from far and close up. 

 

The interesting thing is, making the romanceable female options look ugly in contrast to the non romanceable females costs more money. It takes more assets to make a face old, scarred, having masculine jaws and have spots as opposed to not doing that. 

 

One would have to wonder if there is an agenda being pushed here. Its as if the biologically pretty females are being put out of reach but the ones who look old, scarred, boyish...That's the only ones we got...

 

There is already a ton of not very good looking and ugly women and men in real life. Take a walk around and you will see what I mean. Old, with lots of lines, fat, etc. That's the norm, especially in North America.

 

At the very least, the fantasy that one engages in should be the opposite because fantasy is escapism. Why is it that straight women get to have their escapism with the handsome Cullen and manly Ser Beefcakes but not women ? Why is it that straight women get men that are biologically attractive but not straight men ?

 

I however am not in favor of romance DLCs. Bioware can make good looking females. They just don't want to make them romanceable. Since I play on PC this will not be a problem because of mods. 

 

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