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[Super Drone]

.  BioWare doesn't give a crap if you are the majority and aren't happy.  

 

The Extended Cut DLC says hi. So does Team Dextro and Team Kaidan as a Gay LI. 

 

Bioware listens to fan feedback. You may be banking on them "taking a stand" against whiny entitled straight dudes, but they've already said they aren't actually here to be anyone's social platform. 

 

Whether or not they make Romance DLC, I will bet heavily on feedback being factored into companions and LIs in Dragon Age 4. Which is good enough for me. 

[Super Drone]

 

 I'm still puzzling over what the issue is over Josie and her NPC status, considering that the devs have said that the NPC romances have just as much of the word budget as the companion ones.  

 

The Romance is more than the word budget for a half an hour of cutscenes and a goofy sex scene, for some people. the statements by the devs don't address the concerns of people that get more out of the romance from the banter, and having your LI with you during 95% percent of the game, which Josephine will not be. 

 

 But no, "Word Budget" makes the whole concern go away. Oh, and Cullen is in a quest so obviously the advisers actually do go out on missions with us (despite the fact that the devs have explicitly said Advisers are not companions and don't).

[Grieving Natashina]

 

That's extremely different from someone asking for a romance DLC because they don't like the romance options in the vanilla game.  The ME3 Citadel DLC was full of content far beyond romances, including a lot of action sequences, cut scenes, the party and even a (fairly long) boss fight.  It's not just a romance DLC, and it sure didn't come with any new characters to romance for the main game.  

 

The romance content in Citadel ran like this: You can hook up with Vega or (accidentally) Javik as a fem Shep; kiss Samara if you'd remained loyal to her and not romanced anyone else in the games.  You can get a post-mordem vid from Thane, and of course a few small scenes with your chosen LI. That really doesn't count, since they don't impact the main game.  It's just a little something extra to the rest of the DLC, to go along with everything else.  There isn't a new character just for a romance.  

 

I might not have been clear.  When it comes to romances, BioWare has said time and time again that they aren't interested in making one group or the other happy, especially the majority.  They didn't add Sebastian as a romance in DA2 to appease any group, they did it because they wanted to.  

[Super Drone]

 

That's extremely different from someone asking for a romance DLC because they don't like the romance options in the vanilla game.  The ME3 Citadel DLC was full of content far beyond romances, including a lot of action sequences, cut scenes, the party and even a (fairly long) boss fight.  It's not just a romance DLC, and it sure didn't come with any new characters to romance for the main game.  

 

The romance content in Citadel ran like this: You can hook up with Vega or (accidentally) Javik as a fem Shep; kiss Samara if you'd remained loyal to her and not romanced anyone else in the games.  You can get a post-mordem vid from Thane, and of course a few small scenes with your chosen LI. That really doesn't count, since they don't impact the main game.  It's just a little something extra to the rest of the DLC, to go along with everything else.  There isn't a new character just for a romance.  

 

I might not have been clear.  When it comes to romances, BioWare has said time and time again that they aren't interested in making one group or the other happy, especially the majority.  They didn't add Sebastian as a romance in DA2 to appease any group, they did it because they wanted to.  

 

I didn't say anything about Citadel ( I never bought it, I was done with ME3 after the ending). I said Extended Cut. Y'know, the DLC they made for free download because the majority wasn't happy with ME3s ending. 

 

I wasn't refuting the notion that they probably won't make new DLC Love interests. It's got to be more work than it's worth. I was refuting the assertion that Bioware doesn't care about fan feedback or unhappy majorities. They do, they've proved it time and again that passionate fan response is listened to. I guarantee you if the strongest fan feedback they get once DA:I is unhappy straight dudes, it will a actually mean DA:I is a fantastic success, but it will also at least mean they will think twice about the straight male LIs in DA4. 

[aTigerslunch]

I was going to go blah blah blah with what Vect the Troll was talking about, but nevermind it. 

 

 

I want to make a comment about Romances, during the Twitch feed, before it started there was a survey with people that was in.  Cullen placed number 1 in romancing first, Cassandra was number 2 in romancing and Josie was number 3......   Black Wall and Solas hitting bottom of the list.  The one that started the survey made a comment, poor Blackwall, maybe I should of kept him off the list.  haha 

 

 

Complaining and whining?!   meh,  Looks like Cassandra has alot more support than what was expected?  *shrugs*   Yes, she is getting romanced as a first option by alot of people over Josie.

[axlerzero]

And as I stated before, Melca36, biology is the key factor in what men and women find attractive. Pop culture is a mere reflection.  Oh and I'm sure they'll be blond, big chested warrior women who wear little armor in the game. Just as a mod. Thanks.

[daveliam]

And as I stated before, Melca36, biology is the key factor in what men and women find attractive.

 

And, as we've all stated before, you are incorrect in your statements about biology being "a key factor" in what people find to be attractive.  You are greatly over-playing the biological role and greatly underplaying the sociocultural role.  Oh, and unfortunately for you, both Cass and Jo are gals who "biologically" speaking would be prime "mates", so that kind of throws your biological argument out the window.

 

Just admit that you want a gal that looks different than them and own it.  Don't try to pretend that it's biology that's driving it.  It's your personal preference.  And that's fine.  Just own  that.

[Vindicare175]

And as stated before...you have been conditioned by pop culture to expect a particular idea of what beauty is.

 

Got news for you...times are changing.   Don't buy the game then.   Because you are not going to be seeing blond, big chested warrior women who wear little armor

 

Thank god frankly , ill take normal chested women , with darker hair colors who wear proper armor over.. that , any day.

 

And as I stated before, Melca36, biology is the key factor in what men and women find attractive. Pop culture is a mere reflection.  Oh and I'm sure they'll be blond, big chested warrior women who wear little armor in the game. Just as a mod. Thanks.

 

Sorry to bust your bubble , but Frostbite 3 is not modable.

[Hammerstorm]

Some people are mentioning biology as if it was a magic word that means "I am right and you wrong". But if I´m not wrong so was the most important thing for the human race when we was primitive to make sure that just their DNA was spread, and that meant that the woman didn't had to be "beautiful or hot". What was important was that she was healthy and had wide hips so she could give birth to many children.

 

but who knows, I can be wrong and they had beauty contest to decide which woman get to have children. 

[Asdrubael Vect]

damn just +1 non-human female, mage or not, who is not a andrastian and who is a anti Orlais Empire/Orlais Chantry/Templars/Qunari sided

 

just +1 non-human female companion who will represent a "missed faction" as dalish, rebellion mages, non-andrastian ,Orzammar/Kalsharok dwarves, Nevvarrans, Tevinters(not exiles but a real magister or soldier) who is in the game and we can make alliances with them, but do not have any companion or advisor who will represent them

 

just +1 non-human for a males non-humans, mages Inquisitors, who are not a andrastians and anti Orlais Empire/Orlais Chantry/Templars/Qunari sided

 

everyone especially straight females have different options and a choices...and straight males have mostly the same 2 human non-mages andrastian females who are created for a human male non-mage Inquisitor who would be a pro Orlais Empire/Orlais Chantry/Templars...even human Inquistor origin is based that he is by a mainstream is a pro Chantry person even if he is a mage he would be a loyalist...he was raised as that one and he have templars in his family

 

for me and many ones those 2 options are not atractive not only by their apperiance but more importanly by their personality and nature....but i  am at least do not care about their apperiance, i was absolutly fine with Merril and Tali and with many npc who was not romance options but they was deserving for have one.

 

i personaly do not ask her to be a porn star model and i ask for those who does not need that too

 

i ask for those who do not play as humans nonmages and Orlais Empire/Orlais Chantry/Templars/Qunari sided who do different choices and who cant side with those with who they fight and oppose how they can 2 games

 

we alredy forced to have peoples what many do not like, respect and even want to execute as Cullen, Cassandra, Lelianna

 

we already do not have blood magic and healing spells but non-mages still have templar

 

we already will be forced to have Herald of Andraste  title no matter who we are

 

 

I ask for meaning our choices and respect of them at least in some parts, and thats why i ask what i ask in one of the points of what i as many wanted in dlc when i have a point of adding new companion/advisor romance for those who was bound for only non-mages humans and pro Orlais Empire/Orlais Chantry/Templars sided nature.

 

..they can and already give everyone difference and choices in romances, but do not give any differences and choices for straight males who is forced to bound for one size and romance with those who many do not like no matter how beautigull by personal look they would be

 

and for those who will say not romance or play as other character with different gender or sexuality and faction to romance someone else i will say "put you "do not" do or "someone" far away"

 

i am not know for others but i was never and never will say for anyone to play as other gender or straight or as mage to romance someone and this is goes for nothing and never change the fact who you are and for what you stand...especially if you do not have other choices for romance option who is 

 

in this game from all romances options we have only Sera as the only female option who is not a human(the only nonhuman female in entire party) and not a pro Orlais Empire/Orlais Chantry/Templars sided...and she is only for females to romance(all non-humans exept Varrick in party are available for females to romance)...she will never like males and my Inquisitor will be only good friend with her  even that i want my Inquisitor to romance her as male and i not really care that she have face of Joffrey Baraeton..yeah she is not a beauty but it is not a look for what i and many heroes romance someone

 

change gender of your hero only for romance with someone who is not accept you hero for what who is he or she is a stupid as if you change your gender and make a plastic surgery for someone you like

 

i ask for those who want another option of romances what would be different and for those who play as other character, do other choices and fight for other choices what we do in previous games and in DAI...all others exept straight males have ones, have really different options

[Battlebloodmage]

I don't like my options, can I have a +1 as well?

[Grieving Natashina]

Thank god frankly , ill take normal chested women , with darker hair colors who wear proper armor over.. that , any day.

 

 

Sorry to bust your bubble , but Frostbite 3 is not modable.

Agreed on the first point, but I disagree on the second.  There is a mod to improve the colors for BF3, which took about a year to do.  That being said, it's very difficult to mod that engine.  My guess is that we might get some armor retextures down the road, but I wouldn't anticipate more than that for quite some time.  Perhaps in 2-3 years, with the engine being in more games, it'll become easier for the modding community to write mods.   <shrug>

[Ryzaki]

I don't like my options, can I have a +1 as well?

 

Yes.

 

this romance DLC should be called "EXTRA STUFF" and should include one romance for females dwarves and qunari, and one extra m/m, f/f and m/f romance.

 

It should also come with extra Qunari hairstyles, a black empiorum, and a new area that gives you extra loot at early levels.

 

...It'd be $19.99

 

And I'd probably buy it.

 

[Asdrubael Vect]

I don't like my options, can I have a +1 as well?

i was the one who said about Cullen(i was not expect any forced advisors) as gay/bisexual Li and Cassandra lesbian, Scribe lesbian, Viv bisexual, Sera straight/bisexual, Solas straight/bisexual, Dorian straight/bisexual...that was before we was know about who and how many companions would be and who they are

 

..and with race restricted(not just that but affected your actions so there is no another fenris and anders who would be with you if you support those who they hate and fight)

 

for many reasons i was not even think that Cass and Blackwall and Bull(because he was the most difficult in cinematics and a Qunari spy) would be a LI options as Varrick and Cole

 

as i understand you wanted Kirkwal Butcher Cullen only...but you at least already have have non-human warriror and human mage who are 2 really different and opposite romances and 2 companions with the most content inside...you having the most exotic romances in our party

[Asdrubael Vect]

Yes.

 

this romance DLC should be called "EXTRA STUFF" and should include one romance for females dwarves and qunari, and one extra m/m, f/f and m/f romance.

 

It should also come with extra Qunari hairstyles, a black empiorum, and a new area that gives you extra loot at early levels.

 

...It'd be $19.99

 

And I'd probably buy it.

 

Qunari females and elf females already have a romance option as Solas and Bull

 

1)male Kossith, elf, dwarf have no non-human females to romance

 

2)we have lack of females in party especially non-humans females

 

4)we do not have any companions/advisors from "missed faction" as dalish, rebellion mages, non-andrastian ,Orzammar/Kalsharok dwarves, Nevvarrans, Tevinters(not exiles but a real magister or soldier) who is in the game and we can make alliances with them, but do not have any companion or advisor who will represent them

[Ryzaki]

Qunari females and elf females already have a romance option

 

1)male Kossith, elf, dwarf have no non-human females to romance

 

2)we have lack of females in party especially non-humans females

 

4)we do not have any companions/advisors from "missed faction" as dalish, rebellion mages, non-andrastian ,Orzammar/Kalsharok dwarves, Nevvarrans, Tevinters(not exiles but a real magister or soldier) who is in the game and we can make alliances with them, but do not have any companion or advisor who will represent them

 

Everyone already has 2 romance options. This is an bonus romance dlc no? I mean you want as many people to buy this as possible. Saying "I should get extra options but not you even though we both have the same amount of LIs in the base game." is...huh.

 

Also no one said the extra romance options would be companions. They could just as easily be people working in the Inquisition.

[Asdrubael Vect]

Everyone already has 2 romance options. This is an bonus romance dlc no? I mean you want as many people to buy this as possible. Saying "I should get extra options but not you even though we both have the same amount of LIs in the base game." is...huh.

 

Also no one said the extra romance options would be companions. They could just as easily be people working in the Inquisition.

you as some others people does not read at all what i was wrote as i see  it is not about numbers it is about difference

 

no matter how you put it we have

 

5 males and 3 females to romance

 

1 female is only for females and 1 male is only for males

 

3 nonhumans ro romance with only 1 nonhuman female in party who is female only

 

females have all non-humans option to romance, gay males have Bull

 

no mage female to romance

 

every females for straight males is humans and andrastians when 1 is a templar/seeker

[Ryzaki]

you as some others people does not read at all what i was wrote as i see

 

Or you didn't.

 

You have 2 options. If you don't like them that's another matter you can romance them however. Them not being the race you'd like is your issue. It's not a lack of choice. You just don't want to pick them.

 

I hardly see how that means you should get extra romance options but no one else should. Dwarven females have no dwarven males to romance. No female can romance an elf outside of fem elf. If you want to get the options you'd prefer I hardly see why they shouldn't get the same treatment.

 

Also female dwarves and qunari have the same amount of options you do. 2. One human and one qunari. And if they don't like their choices...like you they're out of luck. But you expect me to believe you should get an extra choice but they shouldn't? Even when they're willing to pay?

[Asdrubael Vect]

Or you didn't.

 

You have 2 options. If you don't like them that's another matter you can romance them however. Them not being the race you'd like is your issue. It's not a lack of choice. You just don't want to pick them.

 

I hardly see how that means you should get extra romance options but no one else should. Dwarven females have no dwarven males to romance. No female can romance an elf outside of fem elf. If you want to get the options you'd prefer I hardly see why they shouldn't get the same treatment.

 

Also female dwarves and qunari have the same amount of options you do. 2. One human and one qunari. And if they don't like their choices...like you they're out of luck. But you expect me to believe you should get an extra choice but they shouldn't? Even when they're willing to pay?

1)you still does not read what i wroted, at least try damn you

 

2)i already say about straight males "options" with 2 humans non-mages andrastians females and other what i will not repeat...while others have the whole different options and females have the most with their the whole different 4 options(5 if you will count Sera)

 

3)i already put what we have with 5 romancable males and 3 females(with only 1 nonhuman female who is a female only) and others

 

and that females have Solas(and the only female elf as Sera who is female option too) to romance and Qunari females have Bull...only female dwarf is the only what females dwarfs does not have.

 

and if you would for at least some moment look what 3 non-humans, non-andrastian males Elf/Kossith/Dwarf inquisitors have, you will find that nothing exept qunari gay males would have a Bull

 

and if you read what i wrote you will find what i ask for at least 1 romancable non-human female companion for non-humans males who have nothing

[Ryzaki]

1)you still does not read what i wroted, at least try damn you

 

But why should I care when you're not even trying to reach a compromise? You want to be the only one to get extra options why should I have any desire to support you. Really. Because again female dwarves and female qunari are stuck with just humans and bull. But apparently they should just suck it up while you get extra options to fit your preferences? This is okay to you?

 

I'm not sure why you see it as some issue for them to have a bonus option too. I mean...I wasn't saying you shouldn't get your extra option. I was just saying others who only had 2 should get an extra option too. But you want to argue against that why exactly?

 

Also female qunari and dwarves have 2 options.

 

There are no five male LIs.

 

There are four.

 

Elves get access to all of them.

 

Humans get access to everyone but Solas.

 

Dwarves and Qunari only get access to Blackwall and Bull.

 

If dwarven ladies and qunari ladies got an extra option along with males (each would preferably get an extra option for s/s and o/s romances) the end result would be everyone but elven females having 3 options. (and elven females would end up with 4). Big whoop. I'm not sure why this is something you're fighting against in a DLC. It's not going to be catered only to you.

[AresKeith]

But why should I care when you're not even trying to reach a compromise? You want to be the only one to get extra options why should I have any desire to support you. Really. Because again female dwarves and female qunari are stuck with just humans and bull. But apparently they should just suck it up while you get extra options to fit your preferences? This is okay to you?

 

I'm not sure why you see it as some issue for them to have a bonus option too. I mean...I wasn't saying you shouldn't get your extra option. I was just saying others who only had 2 should get an extra option too. But you want to argue against that why exactly?

 

Also female qunari and dwarves have 2 options.

 

There are no five male LIs.

 

There are four.

 

Elves get access to all of them.

 

Humans get access to everyone but Solas.

 

Dwarves and Qunari only get access to Blackwall and Bull.

 

If dwarven ladies and qunari ladies got an extra option along with males (each would preferably get an extra option for s/s and o/s romances) the end result would be everyone but elven females having 3 options. (and elven females would end up with 4). Big whoop. I'm not sure why this is something you're fighting against in a DLC. It's not going to be catered only to you.

 

There's no point in trying to continue with him

[Asdrubael Vect]

ok some people just really does not want to read and to understand simple facts

 

 

female humans have Blackwall and Cullen

 

male humans have Cassandra and Josephine(and male Dorian if we would count)

 

 

females elfs have Solas(and female Sera if we would count)

 

females Kossith have Bull

 

female dwarf have 0

 

 

 

male elfs have 0

 

male kossith have 0 (and male Bull if we would count)

 

male dwarf have 0

 

if female Inquisitors does not have only dwarf male entire non-humans males does not have any single nonhuman female

[Melca36]

Qunari females and elf females already have a romance option as Solas and Bull

 

1)male Kossith, elf, dwarf have no non-human females to romance

 

2)we have lack of females in party especially non-humans females

 

4)we do not have any companions/advisors from "missed faction" as dalish, rebellion mages, non-andrastian ,Orzammar/Kalsharok dwarves, Nevvarrans, Tevinters(not exiles but a real magister or soldier) who is in the game and we can make alliances with them, but do not have any companion or advisor who will represent them

 

 

Get over it. You can't get everything you want in this world.  There I things I'd love to see in this game but I know and UNDERSTAND that the game devlopers CAN'T cater to my needs.   If you are not happy..........DONT BUY THE GAME!  Its that simple.   The developers DO NOT OWE you anything.

[Melca36]

ok some people just really does not want to read and to understand simple facts

 

 

female humans have Blackwall and Cullen

 

male humans have Cassandra and Josephine(and male Dorian if we would count)

 

 

females elfs have Solas(and female Sera if we would count)

 

females Kossith have Bull

 

female dwarf have 0

 

 

 

male elfs have 0

 

male kossith have 0 (and male Bull if we would count)

 

male dwarf have 0

 

if female Inquisitors does not have only dwarf male entire non-humans male does not have any single nonhuman female

 

 

Like I said. Get over it. You want the writers to sacrifice their artistic integrity in order to cater to your demands. The world does NOT work that way. You can't always get what you want.

[Ryzaki]

There's no point in trying to continue with him

 

I mean it's just so stupidly selfish I'm baffled.

 

ok some people just really does not want to read and to understand simple facts

 

 

female humans have Blackwall and Cullen

 

male humans have Cassandra and Josephine(and male Dorian if we would count)

 

 

females elfs have Solas(and female Sera if we would count)

 

females Kossith have Bull

 

female dwarf have 0

 

 

 

male elfs have 0

 

male kossith have 0 (and male Bull if we would count)

 

male dwarf have 0

 

if female Inquisitors does not have only dwarf male entire non-humans male does not have any single nonhuman female

 

More like you can't read. You can romance Josephine and Cassandra regardless of race.

 

You wanting a race specific romance does not mean you don't have options. You just don't want to use those options (which is fine but don't pretend you don't have options when you do.)

 

And since you do have options and simply want bonus ones to suit your preferences (because that's what this is about) why on earth shouldn't other races/genders get an extra option? Why are you being so selfish about this? You gain nothing from making the dlc look less desirable for purchase. You realize this yes? DLC has to cater to more than one group to sell.