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[Jaulen]

Putting the string on the other side would not change what I wrote from the beginning, she's handling the bow horizontally. I could care less about the bowstring, because many seem to think you can't handle a bow like that at all, you can. I have, you can shoot just fine. Just like you can hold a gun like a "gangsta" and get away with it..

 

 

I need to see video of this so called 'gansta' bow handling being fine for shooting.....

 

'Cause I have had bows, longbow style (for target practice) and compound (for hunting).

And no.....shooting a bow with the string on the outside of your holding arm is not correct.

 

 

And yeah! to bioware posting that it will be fixed. (Yes it was a minor issue......but it was a silly oversight)

[caradoc2000]

Of course, had Bioware disregarded bowstrings ansuch, these threads were moot.

[JerZey CJ]

Putting the string on the other side would not change what I wrote from the beginning, she's handling the bow horizontally. I could care less about the bowstring, because many seem to think you can't handle a bow like that at all, you can. I have, you can shoot just fine. Just like you can hold a gun like a "gangsta" and get away with it..

No you can't, your aim is completely off if you hold a gun like that.

[Mathias]

Fair enough, I overreacted.  I do think this is a silly complaint but you are being respectful about it.  My apologies.  

 

All good in the hood buddy.

 

 

Putting the string on the other side would not change what I wrote from the beginning, she's handling the bow horizontally. I could care less about the bowstring, because many seem to think you can't handle a bow like that at all, you can. I have, you can shoot just fine. Just like you can hold a gun like a "gangsta" and get away with it..

 

Couple things toi consider here. First off you're way more likely to injury yourself firing a bow with the string over your arm, even if you are firing horizontal. A injury from a bow string is no joke, especially if you're firing a well made bow with a heavy pull. Second thing is you may be able to fire a bowstring over arm if you're doing it horizontally, but it's still awkward and at the end of the day it's a lot safer and more effective to place the bowstring under arm, where you can switch between vertical and horizontal quicker and with more ease.

 

Also you cannot get away with "gangsta style" shooting. I don't have experience with bows, but I go to my local gun club 2-3 times a month to do some target shooting. Trust me, it's a lot hard to aim than it looks in the movies and video games.

 

OP, I think people are reacting to your tone, not your content (which is totally fair). People are definitely overreacting, because its fair to point out mistakes, but it might be more productive in the future to be less...demanding here? I think BSN posters are tired of anything that they read as entitled. Not that I think you are, but I can see why it's perceived that way? Know your audience and all. XD

Glad to hear it will be fixed though!

 

I don't think I sounded demanding. It does say "Can Bioware please" in the title

[hangmans tree]

No, your argument makes no sense.  I understood what you wrote.  I'm saying I don't mind mistakes because it's a little piece of artwork that has no bearing on how the game will function.  That doesn't translate to thinking this art has no value.  Your argument is invalid, try again.  

Yet again you fail to grasp what I wrote :|

My argument stands wether you think otherwise or disregard it alltogether. I'll let you ponder on it for a while, I dont have the need to communicate further what I ment. Excersize your mind a bit, try to figure it out what it was written, it wont hurt, i promise.

 If you dont want to, fine by me, your choice, but let's cut this conversation to a close, shall we?
 

[LostInReverie19]

I didn't notice any of these things until you pointed them out, but you are completely right. The image makes Sera look very derpy; there's no way she could be shooting arrows like that. rofl. 

[Starscream723]

Any chance we can use this thread to discuss the Floating Guy image posted earlier?

 

It has me curious. I mean, despite what that one guy tried to claim, he's very clearly NOT standing on anything. At first I'd just thought he was hanging from the tree or something, but when the image was brought up as "Floating Guy" I noticed there isn't a rope either. Maybe the camera is just too far away that the rope hasn't been drawn in yet? It could be from a rough build, no big deal.

 

Then again, the guy does look like he's just standing there. Maybe the thing he's standing on hasn't been drawn in yet, due to camera distance? A slightly bigger deal, and the build doesn't look THAT rough, so I doubt that's it.

 

Or is it just a random artefact left over from when the devs were playing around setting up that area, and they forgot to remove him before taking the screenshot?

 

Now, of course it's my opinion that it's probably not the best image to use for promotional purposes. But since people have flogged that discussion to death and it's a lynch-able offence to point out mistakes, let's not focus on that. Focus on the question of "What is actually the cause of Random Floating Guy?"

 

At the moment I'm still leaning towards "he's hanging but we can't see the rope from this distance" but I'm open to persuasion.

[Mathias]

Any chance we can use this thread to discuss the Floating Guy image posted earlier?

 

Might as well, but if I may say so, that image looked really creepy. Ever seen those old photos of creepy areas, or run down homes, and in the background you can make out a ghostly apparition? 

 

Floating Guy is creepy.

[Starscream723]

Having zoomed right in for a (failed) attempt to spot something supporting him, he started to look a bit like a Solas. Well, a very pixelly Solas, after zooming in so much. Well, a bald elven mage, anyway. So if it's Solas I doubt he is hanging after all.

 

Maybe he just burst out of the fade at an inappropriate height, and the next snaps show him shouting "Oh ****" and then plummeting to the ground.

[Jawzzus]

Well BSN you've done it, you will now complain to BioWare about literally anything

[Scerene]

In posting this, are you being serious? the overwhelming majority of people couldnt care less about something so trivial. Expecting companies to adapt their promos  to people with severe obsessive compulsive tendencies is laughable at best.

[bEVEsthda]

Oh, I'll give you the string, that's a mistake, plain and simple. But hey, it happens, and will likely be fixed before the image goes elsewhere. The arrow is correct, it is intended to rest opposite the drawing arm. The spiky guard, quiver placement, or any other inaccuracies that might make archery slightly difficult for an elf fall under trailer-poster rule of cool. Not exactly the traditional home of historical accuracy.

 

 

...But functional is the cool.  "cool" for "coolness" sake is the most uncool thing there is.

 

The image is not important. At least I do not consider it important. But it does convey a disturbing feeling about that Bioware may look at their game and at their audience in a manner that is not something positive in my mind. I'm glad that it'll be at least somewhat improved.

 

My feelings are that I would never have commented the image (at least not before the game was released and tanked colossally).  But also that I wouldn't appreciate a game that would be aimed at an audience who thinks this is no matter. I do not mind, if those who got so emotional and upset about Mathias criticism, actually would like DA:I. But I also think I might not like a game that was directly aimed at them as it's audience.

[Shadow Fox]

This thread amuses me.

[FumikoM]

I need to see video of this so called 'gansta' bow handling being fine for shooting.....

 

'Cause I have had bows, longbow style (for target practice) and compound (for hunting).

And no.....shooting a bow with the string on the outside of your holding arm is not correct.

 

 

And yeah! to bioware posting that it will be fixed. (Yes it was a minor issue......but it was a silly oversight)

 

Once upon a time I went to a place to learn to shot with a bow. I had handled bows before, and could hit a target, no problem. When the instructor tried to teach me I suddenly could not even hit a 2m target. If I had tried to hit the wall of a barn I would've had hit anything but that wall. In other words, when I did it my way I could actually hit something, when I did it the "correct" way I just gave up after a few days.

[FumikoM]

No you can't, your aim is completely off if you hold a gun like that.

 

I shoot from the hip. Cowgirl style!

[Kantr]

Any chance we can use this thread to discuss the Floating Guy image posted earlier?

 

It has me curious. I mean, despite what that one guy tried to claim, he's very clearly NOT standing on anything. At first I'd just thought he was hanging from the tree or something, but when the image was brought up as "Floating Guy" I noticed there isn't a rope either. Maybe the camera is just too far away that the rope hasn't been drawn in yet? It could be from a rough build, no big deal.

 

Then again, the guy does look like he's just standing there. Maybe the thing he's standing on hasn't been drawn in yet, due to camera distance? A slightly bigger deal, and the build doesn't look THAT rough, so I doubt that's it.

 

Or is it just a random artefact left over from when the devs were playing around setting up that area, and they forgot to remove him before taking the screenshot?

 

Now, of course it's my opinion that it's probably not the best image to use for promotional purposes. But since people have flogged that discussion to death and it's a lynch-able offence to point out mistakes, let's not focus on that. Focus on the question of "What is actually the cause of Random Floating Guy?"

 

At the moment I'm still leaning towards "he's hanging but we can't see the rope from this distance" but I'm open to persuasion.

I'm not trying to claim anything. Just restating what was said in the thread about floaty guy, which was he is in fact standing on something. I don't really see what he is standing on though

[Messi Kossmann]

This thread shows everything that is wrong with Social Bioware and Bioware Fans...

[Kantr]

Don't start making broad generalisations. It won't make you many friends on here. :L Certainly BSN is a lot better than it was on the old forum

 

Sure people havent been behaving their best in the thread. But I think the "Pre-order cancelled" isnt that bad

[AshesEleven]

Yet again you fail to grasp what I wrote :|
My argument stands wether you think otherwise or disregard it alltogether. I'll let you ponder on it for a while, I dont have the need to communicate further what I ment. Excersize your mind a bit, try to figure it out what it was written, it wont hurt, i promise.
If you dont want to, fine by me, your choice, but let's cut this conversation to a close, shall we?

Yes, you could pretend like I'm an idiot. That would be far lazier than actually trying to make a good argument, or at least phrasing it so I better understand what I mean. But if you want to be childish then you're right, we have nothing further to discuss.

[Scerene]

This thread shows everything that is wrong with Social Bioware and Bioware Fans...

are people supposed to respond to this type of lunacy with friendliness and understanding? If anything we are doing him a favor by dissuading him from it. What if he shows up at a job interview and starts nitpicking the look and size of the employers chest hair or loose buttons and generally starts acting crazy. This has nothing to do with being a "fan" , its about common sense. I would have said the same thing if it was promo for something else.

[Starscream723]

I'm not trying to claim anything. Just restating what was said in the thread about floaty guy, which was he is in fact standing on something. I don't really see what he is standing on though

 

You mean in this thread, and I missed it? Or is there an actual thread about floaty guy? Would you be able to direct me to it? Was it a Bioware person who said he was standing on something?

 

I have to confess, my curiosity is getting the better of me with regards to this floaty guy. I'm becoming quite partial to the idea of Solas photobombing random promotional images. Is there a photoshop thread for this purpose yet? 

[Jaulen]

Once upon a time I went to a place to learn to shot with a bow. I had handled bows before, and could hit a target, no problem. When the instructor tried to teach me I suddenly could not even hit a 2m target. If I had tried to hit the wall of a barn I would've had hit anything but that wall. In other words, when I did it my way I could actually hit something, when I did it the "correct" way I just gave up after a few days.

 

 

*shakes head*

 

I highly highly doubt you ever regularly fired a bow with the string on the OUTSIDE of your holding arm as shown in the Sera picture, normal holding style (perpendicular to ground) or 'gansta' style (parallel to ground). May have done it once.....

 

But enough said about that now, since how Sera has her arm in relation to the bow string is incorrect, and if she went to draw that back......would be physically awkward and hard to aim....also painful.
 

[Starscream723]

are people supposed to respond to this type of lunacy with friendliness and understanding? If anything we are doing him a favor by dissuading him from it. What if he shows up at a job interview and starts nitpicking the look and size of the employers chest hair or loose buttons and generally starts acting crazy. This has nothing to do with being a "fan" , its about common sense. I would have said the same thing if it was promo for something else.

 

A near-perfect example of how it is the people who object to the OP that are going OTT with exaggeration and hyperbole. "Lunacy?" Really? Questioning the quality of several pieces of promotional materials is "lunacy"? People are so concerned about the poster's mental state that they collectively engaged in mockery and belittlement in order to improve his lot in life? Pointing out flaws in promo art is even slightly comparable to going into a job interview and going "crazy" over buttons? What?

 

Ridiculous that posts like that are the ones trying to claim the "common sense" ground. 

[Degs29]

The quiver thing is a non-issue to me, and that bow string mistake is probably easy to overlook.  I'd much rather them work out the bugs in the game than have multiple people eyeball a promotional poster for discrepancies.

 

A mountain out of a mole hill, IMO.

[Kantr]

You mean in this thread, and I missed it? Or is there an actual thread about floaty guy? Would you be able to direct me to it? Was it a Bioware person who said he was standing on something?

 

I have to confess, my curiosity is getting the better of me with regards to this floaty guy. I'm becoming quite partial to the idea of Solas photobombing random promotional images. Is there a photoshop thread for this purpose yet? 

Unfortunately I don't remember where it was. You might have some luck searching Allan Schmacher's posts. Something from June I think. They were also talking about another screenshot that was making a tree look transparent.

 

Turned out it wasnt transparent just the lighting tricking people.

 

I understand Op's grumble about the bow string, but not the video he linked