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[veeia]

Humor is pretty much required when you have such a dark world set up and want your audience to be invested and care. I'd say its essential for pacing. You get too fatigued from all the bad.

dA2 felt different because it was different. The length of the story alone took out that kind of tension you had in DA:o. It was a smaller story. It wasn't low fantasy, it was smaller scale. Low concept, almost, in that so much was day to day and not BIG things. Honestly that's the kind of story I love, so while da2 had massive problems, I loved that aspect.

I also think da2 was pretty dark. It didn't feel dark because they did such a bad job with atmosphere due to the rushed cycle. If dark town had felt worse, if the threat of mages turning abomination seemed less scripted, if the levels had more unique creepiness to them...it would have felt plenty dark.

[TheJediSaint]

I find that the best time for a joke is when it's least appropriate.

[veeia]

Except for Joker after Thessia. I mean really? Lol that was so weird, the two extremes of everyone weeping over Liara and then him being over the top callous. Just a poorly planned story beat there.

[Ieldra]

Since I never found anything to complain about in DAO or DA2 regarding the balance between humor and seriousness, I guess that means they did it right.

 

As for "dark" themes, that means different things to different people. It usually involves bad stuff happening with the added element that the protagonist is mostly unable to prevent it, only to mitigate the effects, if that. DA2 was much darker than DAO with its inexorable downward spiral into chaos. While I liked the different kind of story, it appears to me that people mostly didn't want it.

[AlexiaRevan]

For dark..I would love to have the 'Dark atmosphere' of Kotor 2 . You could almsot taste the dilema there  . 

For humour..I would love to see old BG 2 humour reference like..they were everywhere and even though I didn't get the reference it was fun looking them up and learning what it was about 

[Icefalcon]

DA:I did a really good job balancing the overall seriousness that belongs in a dark fantasy with humor, especially gallows humor /Black comedy and that style. It fit very well because it was believable for characters to cope with the world this way.

In DA:2 I no longer felt I was in a dark fantasy world, Im not sure why but things didn't feel as dark. Though that may be because I got older and developing a higher threshold for what is considered dark (as in war and death becoming "normalized").

One of my main concerns with DA:I is that the game will have problems balancing a dark fantasy world and humor. IMO this is a really hard thing to balance, because if they implement too much comedy the general feeling of despair and hopelessness will cheapen. However - humor (especially gallows humor) is one of the things that makes the DA universe so great. Because Orginins (DA:2 also but less so) managed to balance it on its razor edge. 

Do you think they will pull it off in Inquisition and how important is this to you personally? Do you have a preference in the seriousness of the world (General feel and atmosphere) over humor and vice versa - or are you too; worried about them being balanced out or not? Or dont you really care either way? (as in - having other things that are a higher priority).

Just curious how people feel about this because for me atleast this is a very important factor in a DA game.

 

I guess humour is subjective. if you felt the first two games could be funny then there should be no disappointment here. If not, I'd say expect more of the same.

 

 

DA][ didn't feel like Dark Fantasy because it felt like real life, with magic. A decade full of soul crushing failures that finally ended with you disappearing after giving up. 

 

I felt it was more running away than giving up, certainly if you went pro-mage I got the impression you were out of Dodge before the Templars arrived by the shipload (or ****-load depending on opinion)

[The Antagonist]

 

It's over they've gone full Saints Row

[Urazz]

 

It's over they've gone full Saints Row

I don't see how they would be able to play the game without laughing every time the Inquisitor talks.  

[BloodKaiden]

I'm not worried in this regard, both DAO and DA2 were great games to me.

[Steelcan]

I still don't think Dragon Age is really dark fantasy, it has dark fantasy elements but its not quite the same as say A Song of Ice and Fire or the Witcher series

[DihneSidhe]

Bioware has so far been really really good at mixing humor and soul crushing moments. But I will say there's one joke I'm really hoping will happen at some point in DA:I, "Q: What? Weren't you expecting the Inquisition? A: No expects the Inquisition"

[Steelcan]

Bioware has so far been really really good at mixing humor and soul crushing moments. But I will say there's one joke I'm really hoping will happen at some point in DA:I, "Q: What? Weren't you expecting the Inquisition? A: No expects the Inquisition"

Gaider already said he was sick of that joke

[Dusksworn]

Gaider already said he was sick of that joke

He said that so we wouldn't expect it.

 

But really, it's a joke that's supposed to be fucked up and repeated so many times that it doesn't come as a surprise at all, and everyone is just sort of waiting for it to be done. That's how that joke was played in the first place.

 

So, aren't you supposed to be sick of it?