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Ok Bioware, this thread has now reached 100 pages.

The controversy surrounding Qunari hair is clearly a hot topic. We all appreciated Cameron Lee's response, but it didn't come close to addressing our concerns.

Based off of the feedback from this thread, I made a list of some questions most of us here would love for Bioware to answer:

1) Why does the texture of the female Qunari hair look significantly and noticeably worse than any of the other hairstyles? Also, why are the three Qunari hairstyles lacking in volume/detail and why are they all so short?

2) Why couldn't there be separate sliders for the hair & horn options?

2a) If separate sliders are too much to ask for, why, at the very least, couldn't you patch the game (post-release) to ensure that all three of the hairstyles were paired with each type of horn in a single slider? (A lot of people love a particular pair of horns, but HATE the hairstyle attached to it)


(This seems like the easiest quick fix: you wouldn't have to waste much time/resources because no new hairstyle meshes would need to be developed/tested and there wouldn't be clipping issues because the three existing hairstyles already work with the horns...)

3) Did you retcon the lore and remove truly hornless Qunari from the world of Thedas?

(If you remember, Sten was an example of a Qunari possessing a "rare genetic variation" that caused him to be born without horns; hornless Qunari are considered "special" and often act as an envoy to the other races in part because they don't scare people/stand out so much.)

3a) Is there a valid, story-based reason why the Inquisitor is not allowed to be a truly hornless Qunari? Instead, we are expected to make due with unsightly and off-putting "necrotic" craters, as if the horns had been pulled out like rotten teeth...

3b) Why couldn't the hornless female Qunari been given access to a COUPLE of the hairstyles for other races? Please explain how that would pose clipping issues if there aren't any horns to interfere with in the first place.

4) Was it ever your intention to include more options/variety/lengths of hairstyles for the female Qunari in DA:I? Did you run out of time/money or did you encounter serious clipping issues that made it an impossibility to include at launch?


(I only ask because literally every single depiction of female Qunari to date has shown them with long hair... Not only that, but the in-game male Qunari in DA:2 all had long hair)

5) Do you realize that lack of quality/diverse female Qunari hairstyles will easily and almost assuredly be the biggest disappointment in an otherwise fantastic CC?

Feel free to pick and choose which questions you would like to answer (or just continue to ignore us - it's your prerogative). I'd be happy to hear feedback on even ONE of the points addressed above. To date, we haven't been given any sort of explanation, no matter how meager. :(

P.S. The horns look awesome, Bioware, but I think most fans would rather have 5 awesome horns + 5 unique hairstyles to choose from instead of 10 awesome horns + 3 all-too-similar, short hairstyles to choose from.

P.P.S. Yes, I have too much time on my hands, and yes, I did spend a good part of the weekend complaining about digital hair on the Internet :P

P.P.P.S. To the people who read this far, I love you. Seriously, though, this thread has allowed me to vent my frustration instead of suffering in silence, which has been very cathartic. Not only that, but I've also found plenty people who were (are?) as excited about playing a female Qunari as I was, and that's awesome! :D

If you, too, would like for Bioware to answer some of these questions, feel free to quote them in a post of your own with some of your thoughts explaining why the issue is important to you!
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#2477
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As long as they are playable race ^_^

 

"Brand new feature for DA 4: Take down the old god child while playing as one of our many awesome hairstyles!

 

Be the fearsome Beehive, the resilient Bob Cut, the reliable Bowl Cut or the underdog Combover!

Look forward to being the hairstyle of doom in the next epic of the Dragon Age franchise! 

 

Coming up in an Origin store near you."

 

 

....wait, you didn't mean the Qunari as the playable race did you? Of course you did. <_<


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"Brand new feature for DA 4: Take down the old god child while playing as one of our many awesome hairstyles!

 

Be the fearsome Beehive, the resilient Bob Cut, the reliable Bowl Cut or the underdog Combover!

Look forward to being the hairstyle of doom in the next epic of the Dragon Age franchise! 

 

Coming up in an Origin store near you."

 

 

....wait, you didn't mean the Qunari as the playable race did you? Of course you did. <_<

 

If making hair as playable race makes BW to take hair seriously then I'm game ^^


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Happy 100th page! *throws glitter*

 

P.P.P.S. To the people who read this far, I love you. Seriously, though, this thread has allowed me to vent my frustration instead of suffering in silence, which has been very cathartic. Not only that, but I've also found plenty people who were (are?) as excited about playing a female Qunari as I was, and that's awesome! :D

 

And ditto <3


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There are so many of the other races' hairstyles that look like they would work with the horns. Since they merged the horn and hair choices anyway, the least they could do is match up existing hairstyles that would fit with existing horn styles and add them as new options.



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i wanna be on the 100th page.



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It's been a long road... getting from there to here...



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Just seen this topic! Can't believe it escaped my notice before! I'm also very annoyed about the lack of hair/horns for Qunari! I want my female Qunari to have DA2-Arishok style horns with long flowing hair! Please Bioware give us Qunari players more customization!  



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Just seen this topic! Can't believe it escaped my notice before! I'm also very annoyed about the lack of hair/horns for Qunari! I want my female Qunari to have DA2-Arishok style horns with long flowing hair! Please Bioware give us Qunari players more customization!

Personally I never thought Arishok horns would ever be available as they're what makes him uniquely himself, but I had expected at least like a pony tail or something for a FemQun.

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seening so many people here sniff it brings tear to my eye



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Just jumping into the thread with a list of the 24 hair/horn(less) combinations as seen in the latest CC video. (With apologies if this has been done before!) I (tried to) put it in spoiler tags just to be safe:

 

Spoiler

 

Still not sure that spoiler tag was necessary, but better safe than sorry? I'm crossing my fingers that it actually works...


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Here's to the next 100 pages. ;)


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This is how the whole Qunari hair thing makes me feel.

 

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I hoped the hair style would match the art works.

 

I was expecting middle long and long hair choices too, not just plain short cut.

 

 

Though, i won't mind if it is possible to get new hair style from modders like previous DA games. If not, i really hope Bioware will add a few hair style later.

 

If i can't end up playng DAI at some point with a badass female qunari with hornes (checked!) AND pony tale, i would feel like i missed the ultimate DAI character experience to play.

 

 

Anyway, i'm crossing my fingers.

And I wish the best to the DAI team. I know they are totaly busy and have not the time to deal with hair at this time. But after the release and a couple of week of sleep, i hope they will thing about it.



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This is how the whole Qunari hair thing makes me feel.

 

 

:( everytime I see that beautiful fem qunari concept I feel like BW trolled me.

 

They certainly got me good.

 

:crying:


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Looking back at the hairs again I'm thinking unless I can pull off a bald look that I really like for my qunari I'll pass on them for a while going back and looking again at the hairs I just don't think I can pull off the Mohawk look on my female qunari anymore it just looks so tiny like her friends cut her hair as she slept trying to make her bald but had to bail mid way through because she was waking up or something. On the other hand my male qunari is finally working with me a little bit and we think that we can pull off a scholarly look with a bald head and cool horn combo since he refuses those nasty spots and I don't blame him.


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Looking back at the hairs again I'm thinking unless I can pull off a bald look that I really like for my qunari I'll pass on them for a while going back and looking again at the hairs I just don't think I can pull off the Mohawk look on my female qunari anymore it just looks so tiny like her friends cut her hair as she slept trying to make her bald but had to bail mid way through because she was waking up or something. On the other hand my male qunari is finally working with me a little bit and we think that we can pull off a scholarly look with a bald head and cool horn combo since he refuses those nasty spots and I don't blame him.

 

Yeah male qunari (the one I was planning on NOT playing) is looking more attractive than female qunari :( he can at least rock the wax head.



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Yeah male qunari (the one I was planning on NOT playing) is looking more attractive than female qunari :( he can at least rock the wax head.

 

I was planning a run of both male and female qunari but I'm not sure if I could make a female qunari I like the look of anymore due to the limited hair styles. I thought I could get the Mohawk look good on her but that thing it just a mess way to puny so bald or nothing for both of my qunari so far. :(


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I was planning a run of both male and female qunari but I'm not sure if I could make a female qunari I like the look of anymore due to the limited hair styles. I thought I could get the Mohawk look good on her but that thing it just a mess way to puny so bald or nothing for both of my qunari so far. :(

 

Yeah the hair is just...it's not even that it's short. It's just so bad (and watching the old trailers of femqunari and seeing how flat her hair in the back was :X how did I not pay attention to that before). So terrible.

 

And yeah that mohawk could be workable if it was taller. Oh well. Human master race first I shall go.



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Yeah the hair is just...it's not even that it's short. It's just so bad (and watching the old trailers of femqunari and seeing how flat her hair in the back was :X how did I not pay attention to that before). So terrible.

 

And yeah that mohawk could be workable if it was taller. Oh well. Human master race first I shall go.

 

Agreed I think I was too wrapped up in her horns and slightly confused by the what I thought was a tattoo on her face to notice the hair. If the bun didn't have that silly middle part and a bit more volume to it it wouldn't look that bad imo but that middle part really makes it look goofy. Course saying 'it looks goofy' could be used to nicely describe all the qunari hair styles.

 

Yeah as much as I don't enjoy playing humans when given a choice between other races I think my qunari mages may turn into human ones instead which I guess would go nicely with the world states I'll be using for them. Still I'm going to at least attempt to make a qunari I like first before switching to human or elf since I was really looking forward to the new race. They'll still be a third or fourth run though my dwarf ladies demand to go first and second and I can not deny them.


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Agreed I think I was too wrapped up in her horns and slightly confused by the what I thought was a tattoo on her face to notice the hair. If the bun didn't have that silly middle part and a bit more volume to it it wouldn't look that bad imo but that middle part really makes it look goofy. Course saying 'it looks goofy' could be used to nicely describe all the qunari hair styles.

 

Yeah as much as I don't enjoy playing humans when given a choice between other races I think my qunari mages may turn into human ones instead which I guess would go nicely with the world states I'll be using for them. Still I'm going to at least attempt to make a qunari I like first before switching to human or elf since I was really looking forward to the new race. They'll still be a third or fourth run though my dwarf ladies demand to go first and second and I can not deny them.

 

Agreed.

 

My human lady just shoved my qunari lady out of the way. Hella rude :o oh well diva can go first I guess. XD



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My dwarf warrior is refusing to let anyone go first bossy lass is demanding that I use her for the first two runs, won't happen though she's only going first because she might actually jump out of the game and pummel me if i don't let her. And my female human just pushed my lady qunari into a lake, real classy that woman, well at least my male human and male qunari are reaching an understanding so theres some peace.



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From the current hairstyles mudbun is only one that fits personality of my qunaris. It looks awful but I can't image them with bald, mohawk or corncrows, it's not just their style. If I could chose my female qunari would have tight ponytail and my male qunari messy bun.



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The three hairstyles are all SO short and so similar that they could easily be interchanged with any horn style. That is an irrefutable fact.

The horns all originate from the same two points on the head, meaning that it would be quite easy to recycle the same three styles with all of the horn options. Why Bioware didn't do that is anyone's guess...

Maybe if someone from Bioware would be so kind as to explain to us why that decision wasn't made... *HINT HINT* :P

 

yep. That. The horns take always the same space, so the hair have all the same "form", it should not be that hard to change the hairstyle in the various horns, at least for what I know. Is not as if the hair are unique and created appositly attached to the horns. :huh:

 

If it wasn't already said that there isn't for now any way to change the appearance in game afer the start, I would have sayd it was the same case as in KoA, where same options, like piercing, facial tatoo and some hairstyle (if I remember correctly) where limited while creating the character at the start of the game, and could be changed only once buyed a home with a mirror.


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I just saw Josephines new hairstyle and must say, it looks awesome!

 

Please Bioware, give Qunari the same treatment.