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[AlexiaRevan]

Qunari Hairs we didn't get... Made by me just now...

 

 

The left pic on the 2nd row from the bottom is basically just the bun we get but a lot bigger and with the hair pulled back in stead of parted...

And I made Stens hair! Kinda...

And some long hair that would probably be really hard to actually implement but I drew it without really thinking and I love it so I kept it anyway.

The Last and on the right side Long hair...is what I was looking forward to....

 

_{Edit: although I'm planning on making my Qunari lady for 1st playtrough..}

[Lady Luminous]

Agreed! And we appreciate your moral support!

And yeah, I scrapped any notion of playing a female qunari mage and have resignedly settled on the male qunari mage with a mohawk, although even for that character I would have preferred the long hair of the Arishok/every single qunari in DA:2... :/

 

I'm still going to be playing my qunari lady as a first playthrough, but I've had to completely revision her entire personality.

[xyzmkrysvr]

I'm still going to be playing my qunari lady as a first playthrough, but I've had to completely revision her entire personality.

Just out of curiosities sake, what was your female qunari's personality going to be like before you saw the disappointing hairstyles and what kind of revision did you have to make?

[Lady Luminous]

Just out of curiosities sake, what was your female qunari's personality going to be like before you saw the disappointing hairstyles and what kind of revision did you have to make?

 

For sure She was going to be quite flirty and giggly, very much a hair-tosser kind of gal. Not serious in the slightest, uses humour to diffuse situations.

 

(Now that's going to be my female human rogue Eavan - who'll stab you in the back while kissing you if it'll net her a pretty trinket or a bag of gold.)

 

I've revised Acantha to be stoic (which is good because the meaning of her name is thorny or prickly) but kind-hearted. An "ends justifies-the-means" type. Diplomatic until you force her to be aggressive.

[animedreamer]

Who are you talking to? Cos your pic still doesn't look like Sten.

It's not my pic, it's fanart, and like i said in my post, it's how the fans see Sten. 

and whether or not you accept concept art for established characters or not is not my concern, as for who i was speaking to, well thats kind of obvious as it was intended to those who vehemently tried to deny the similarities between that fanart i posted and what Sten actually looks like outside of a game that had limited resources to generate a true to idea version of the character. "Sten wasn't a handsome guy.."

Really, cause when I saw the Sacred Ashes trailer he sure as HELL wasn't a ugly guy or even average guy.

[In Exile]

It's not my pic, it's fanart, and like i said in my post, it's how the fans see Sten. 

and whether or not you accept concept art for established characters or not is not my concern, as for who i was speaking to, well thats kind of obvious as it was intended to those who vehemently tried to deny the similarities between that fanart i posted and what Sten actually looks like outside of a game that had limited resources to generate a true to idea version of the character. "Sten wasn't a handsome guy.."

Really, cause when I saw the Sacred Ashes trailer he sure as HELL wasn't a ugly guy or even average guy.

 

He just needs to get rid of that chin beard. 

[xyzmkrysvr]

I've revised Acantha to be stoic (which is good because the meaning of her name is thorny or prickly) but kind-hearted. An "ends justifies-the-means" type. Diplomatic until you force her to be aggressive.

I like the sound of Acantha Adaar's personality! I always admire strong female characters and have a personal affinity towards "ends-justify-the-means" types What class is she going to be?

My male Qunari mage character is going to be a sarcastic, roguish type with a utilitarian, aggressive streak. He hates the Qun and adopted the name "Arvaarad" in a sick twist of irony (remember, Arvaarad is a Qunari that holds the leash of a Saarebas; the name means "holds back evil"). For a Vashoth mage to call himself "Arvaarad" is like a slap in the face to the Qun and it's his way of proving mages can fend for themselves. He's also going to romance Dorian after a fling with Iron Bull

Who is Acantha going to romance??

[sandalisthemaker]

My male Qunari mage character is going to be a sarcastic, roguish type with a utilitarian, aggressive streak. He hates the Qun and adopted the name "Arvaarad" in a sick twist of irony (remember, Arvaarad is a Qunari that holds the leash of a Saarebas; the name means "holds back evil"). For a Vashoth mage to call himself "Arvaarad" is like a slap in the face to the Qun and it's his way of proving mages can fend for themselves. He's also going to romance Dorian after a fling with Iron Bull
 

 

Oooh, I love this.

 

Anything that is a slap in the face to the Qun gains my support.

 

My Qunari man will also be anti-Qun, and gay just like yours. He won't be a mage, though. 

[HuldraDancer]

Since I got my graphictablet to work for a bit, I tried my hand and did  some hairstyles as well. - I'm sorry if some are a bit similar to what Ellisiaro had already cooked up. If so, it was not intentional.

 

First row left and second row left would have looked really nice on my female qunari fits the more 'bratty' nature I was planning for her. If the actual qunari Mohawk was jut a bit taller like the one in this picture I'd at least have one look I'd really like for my female qunari but I'm still hoping I can save her since I've almost lost all hope on my male qunari who I was really hoping to have the braided type of hair that Sten had in DAO. Very nice styles I really like the buns and pony tails.

[virtus753]

So random thought here, but kickstarter campaign, anyone? If BioWare agreed to make particular hair/horn-styles (for qunari specifically or for all races) and to send contributors a free redeemable code for the DLC, then made it available to the general public for a set price, like any other DLC, could that work?

[Gorbag2]

I would pitch in for a kickstarter. Remember though that the kickstarter for the alternate ending for Mass Effect 3 was seen as the fans trying to push the developers hand into something they didn't want to do. Since this seems much less "game changey" though I don't think it would offend any of the artists/graphic designers/programmers if we offered to PAY them to make additional hair styles. The thing is we don't want to come off as whiney or demanding. 

[themugen]

I'll be playing as a Qunari eventually, available hairstyles don't bother me as I'm more interested in the awesome looking horns.  That said, more options are always appreciated. 

THAT said, thank you Bioware for creating what looks to be an awesome game and is my most anticipated title of 2014.

[virtus753]

The thing is we don't want to come off as whiney or demanding. 

 

Exactly so! I was hoping that the offer of a kickstarter (which we couldn't actually implement without a conditional agreement from BioWare) might be a practical solution that would show we're willing to do our part if they're interested in accommodating us.

 

Thanks for the warning about the ME3 ending, though, since I wasn't aware of that. If BioWare felt their current offerings for hair- and horn-styles were definitive and shouldn't be changed, I would understand their reluctance to add more, but in that case I think we'd still be within our rights to ask them for a lore-related explanation.

 

It might actually be better to wait on making a formal offer until we see whether they revisit the issue after the game is released, as they've said they might. If they do so, then we wouldn't have to pitch them anything except ideas for new styles (and I have to say that I love a lot of the ideas that have been posted so far!); otherwise, we could use something like a kickstarter as an incentive.

[Panda]

He just needs to get rid of that chin beard. 

 

It's chin corncrows omg!

[Panda]

I'm going to do two qunaris, Valpur and Skye Adaar.

 

Valpur is calm warrior lady, serious and disciplined outside but laidback and friendly inside. I had imagined her to have white long glorious hair that I have seen female qunaris have in concept arts.. just slid back and tied on the tight ponytail or braid so it doesn't bother during battle. I wanted to romance Solas or Varric with her.. but I guess she is foreveralone now.

 

Skye is my treehugger gay mage qunari. He's calm, friendly and optimistic (lol I imagine qunaris always calm). He's pro-mage, anti-qun, pro-elf, anti-Chantry. I imagined him to have messy wavy hair pulled into messy bun and some braids there too (yea I didn't think I'd get this but something messy and longish at least or something on bun). I guess I will pick mudbun for him if I we don't get more options though it doesn't have nice texture : (

[Lady Luminous]

I like the sound of Acantha Adaar's personality! I always admire strong female characters and have a personal affinity towards "ends-justify-the-means" types What class is she going to be?

My male Qunari mage character is going to be a sarcastic, roguish type with a utilitarian, aggressive streak. He hates the Qun and adopted the name "Arvaarad" in a sick twist of irony (remember, Arvaarad is a Qunari that holds the leash of a Saarebas; the name means "holds back evil"). For a Vashoth mage to call himself "Arvaarad" is like a slap in the face to the Qun and it's his way of proving mages can fend for themselves. He's also going to romance Dorian after a fling with Iron Bull

Who is Acantha going to romance??

 

Thank you, I'm looking forward to playing both of them! I only ever play rogues, actually. I've always had regrets in my mage and warrior builds, so never complete the games.

 

Ooh, I like your characterization. Very strong, and that irony makes me smirk.

 

It's really going to depend on how I respond to the companions in game, but I'm considering Iron Bull or Josephine. My human Eavan is going for Cullen, try and make him lighten up a little, hehe.

[Lady Luminous]

I would pitch in for a kickstarter. Remember though that the kickstarter for the alternate ending for Mass Effect 3 was seen as the fans trying to push the developers hand into something they didn't want to do. Since this seems much less "game changey" though I don't think it would offend any of the artists/graphic designers/programmers if we offered to PAY them to make additional hair styles. The thing is we don't want to come off as whiney or demanding. 

 

I would hope that it would come off as more supportive, trying to give them the means to enable them to create more hairstyles.

 

I'd be in, for certain.

[Roofie]

It's not my pic, it's fanart, and like i said in my post, it's how the fans see Sten. 
and whether or not you accept concept art for established characters or not is not my concern, as for who i was speaking to, well thats kind of obvious as it was intended to those who vehemently tried to deny the similarities between that fanart i posted and what Sten actually looks like outside of a game that had limited resources to generate a true to idea version of the character. "Sten wasn't a handsome guy.."
Really, cause when I saw the Sacred Ashes trailer he sure as HELL wasn't a ugly guy or even average guy.

 
I do not mean to quibble, but it's how some* fans see Sten. We're all fans, and we disagreed with the posted fanart.
 
I don't disagree with concept art, game or comic representations of Sten (or his Arishok appearance either). In fact, I find Sten to be quite lovely, imposing, and stoic, handsome too for the most part, but also brutal and angular. He has a wonderful Qunari face, not a human one. That fanart was not how Sten looks, for one it was too thin, another too pretty-boy (which is not a bad thing, just not Sten), and finally it was far too relaxed? That fanart disagrees with your own example, it doesn't look like the picture above, or the concept art another poster provided. The major issue is it made a PoC frickin' white. Sten has dark metallic skin. Your fanart does not.
 
I'M A HUGE STEN FAN. A Qunari nerd. I disagree with you. Let's move the heck on shall we?
 

So random thought here, but kickstarter campaign, anyone? If BioWare agreed to make particular hair/horn-styles (for qunari specifically or for all races) and to send contributors a free redeemable code for the DLC, then made it available to the general public for a set price, like any other DLC, could that work?

I don't think it's a bad idea, but my two scents is that I am very wary of Kickstarters.

[xyzmkrysvr]

So random thought here, but kickstarter campaign, anyone? If BioWare agreed to make particular hair/horn-styles (for qunari specifically or for all races) and to send contributors a free redeemable code for the DLC, then made it available to the general public for a set price, like any other DLC, could that work?

Yeah, the idea of a kickstarter campaign was kicked around (pun not intended ) like 75 pages ago - I'm totally in favor of that idea!

I would pitch in for a kickstarter. Remember though that the kickstarter for the alternate ending for Mass Effect 3 was seen as the fans trying to push the developers hand into something they didn't want to do. Since this seems much less "game changey" though I don't think it would offend any of the artists/graphic designers/programmers if we offered to PAY them to make additional hair styles. The thing is we don't want to come off as whiney or demanding.

I didn't know that about Mass Effect 3... I can understand why the devs would feel resentful, but in this case we're not asking them to change the story... Just to give us a couple more customization options so we can play as a female Qunari that looks a bit closer to every single Qunari concept art they have ever released.

[MasterPrudent]

A large games publisher like EA getting into kickstarter - and a DLC related kickstarter at that - would be unprecedented. It would also open up a whole can of worms. Many people see kickstarter as a tool for funding small or niche projects that would otherwise not be able to attract funding, not AAA projects from cashed-up corporations. EA already has a terrible reputation - being seen to gouge fans for DLC to a popular AAA game would not do wonders for it. Furthermore it's DLC that a very small proportion of players desire (the poll in this thread has only been seen by people concerned Qunari hair and yet about 40% said they were fine with one or more options, the posts in this thread come from a very small number of users (it's a real echo chamber) and most players will never play as anything other than humans).

 

More Qunari hairstyles might appear as a part of other DLC and probably will appear in any future DA games as designers are able to work with the same engine and add to the existing designs instead of having to start from scratch. But hoping for anything more is really likely to end in more heartbreak.

[Roofie]

A large games publisher like EA getting into kickstarter - and a DLC related kickstarter at that - would be unprecedented. It would also open up a whole can of worms. Many people see kickstarter as a tool for funding small or niche projects that would otherwise not be able to attract funding, not AAA projects from cashed-up corporations. EA already has a terrible reputation - being seen to gouge fans for DLC to a popular AAA game would not do wonders for it.

 

*snip*

 

^ is one of the reasons I am kickstarter wary, especially for things like this with such big sponsors behind the project already.

 

Also echo... echo... echo... echo

[xyzmkrysvr]

A large games publisher like EA getting into kickstarter - and a DLC related kickstarter at that - would be unprecedented.
*snip*
More Qunari hairstyles might appear as a part of other DLC and probably will appear in any future DA games as designers are able to work with the same engine and add to the existing designs instead of having to start from scratch. But hoping for anything more is really likely to end in more heartbreak.

Well aren't you just a bundle of joy this morning!

[Gill Kaiser]

No Kickstarter made by the likes of us would ever make enough money for a AAA publisher like EA to notice. It would be a purely symbolic gesture, and I don't think it's a good idea.

 

This may be an echo chamber in the grand scheme of things, but you only have to look at the qunari hairstyle options to see that they're sub-par, so I seriously doubt we're the only ones who feel this way.

 

Anyway, we got a response and we know that Mike Laidlaw is aware of our feelings on the matter. All we can do is wait, and try to keep ourselves motivated to hopefully, eventually get to play qunari with the look they deserve.

[Nohvarr]

Well aren't you just a bundle of joy this morning!

We crush dreams here.

[Mad Cassidy]

I'd back a kickstarter, or pay for DLC. I mean, ideally they'd offer it for free, but I'd still be willing to give up some money so I could actually get myself motivated to play what was previously my first planned playthrough.

 

I just did a quick look through the CC images posted here, and counted 24 options (ignoring repeated images). By the numbers:

 

Bald options: 7 of 24 (29%)

Mohawk options: 6 of 24 (25%)

Mini (mud)-bun options: 6 of 24 (25%)

Cornrow options: 5 of 24 (21%)

Broken horns (excluding fully filed): 8 of 24 (33%)

 

Now, that means that nearly a third of the options involve no hair at all. It means a full third of the options involve broken horns. That's... a lot for what are likelly to be fringe options. It means if you don't want your qunquisitor to sport a waxed head or a mohawk, 54% (over half) of the available options are lost to you. It means that if you don't like scullcap hairstyles, you get... well, nothing. Nil. Nada. Zip all. Someone over there really doesn't like dealing with hair, or just didn't consider it to be a priority at all.

 

 

* Disclaimer: These are numbers from the posted images only. I counted by eye, and I think I found most of the repeats.