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I'm definitely having trouble coming to terms with the fact that I might be stuck with bald, mohawk, cornrow, and mudbun as the only options for my male qunari.  I've really been wanting to have a close cropped parted hair style (think of a somewhat conservative male cut) for my qunari.  I'm just totally unsure where I'm going to end up going with this.  I guess I'll do what I always do and set him to bald, then customize him exactly how I want him, and then try out all of the hair combinations to see which looks best on him.  I'm thinking it might end up being bald, which makes me sad.  The only one of the others that is tolerable at all is mohawk, but I just don't see it for this particular character that I have in mind.  Do we know if bald is truly "bald" or if it's stubble.  That makes a huge difference for me.  Stubble?  I can deal with that.  Bald? No thanks.


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Do we know if bald is truly "bald" or if it's stubble.  That makes a huge difference for me.  Stubble?  I can deal with that.  Bald? No thanks.

 

 

From every image posted so far (of males and females), the bald option will leave your qunquisitor's scalp as hairless and smooth as an elven arse. Waxed to a shine. No stubble dare tread there. Bald as bald can possibly be.


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I'm definitely having trouble coming to terms with the fact that I might be stuck with bald, mohawk, cornrow, and mudbun as the only options for my male qunari.  I've really been wanting to have a close cropped parted hair style (think of a somewhat conservative male cut) for my qunari.  I'm just totally unsure where I'm going to end up going with this.  I guess I'll do what I always do and set him to bald, then customize him exactly how I want him, and then try out all of the hair combinations to see which looks best on him.  I'm thinking it might end up being bald, which makes me sad.  The only one of the others that is tolerable at all is mohawk, but I just don't see it for this particular character that I have in mind.  Do we know if bald is truly "bald" or if it's stubble.  That makes a huge difference for me.  Stubble?  I can deal with that.  Bald? No thanks.

 

Wax bald.

 

I could've rocked a stubble mohawk on my fem. But can't even get that. Freaking wax. WHY.


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I would slaughter 1,000 nugs as a sacrifice to the Maker if Bioware gives us this gorgeous hairstyle for female Qunari...!!!

I feel the same way about this style right here. For any male quizzy!



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From every image posted so far (of males and females), the bald option will leave your qunquisitor's scalp as hairless and smooth as an elven arse. Waxed to a shine. No stubble dare tread there. Bald as bald can possibly be.

Wax bald.

 

I could've rocked a stubble mohawk on my fem. But can't even get that. Freaking wax. WHY.

 

 

That is.....disappointing.  I guess mohawk it is. 

 

I really wanted to have two styles that I liked because I have two qunari in mind:

 

1.)  Lawful good golden-boy goodie two-shoes qunari warrior - wanted a close cropped conservative cut for him (dark skin, light hair, horned)

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2.)  Chaotic good, wry, sarcastic and a little dark (like a less selfish Morrigan) qunari mage - wanted the mohawk for him (light skin, dark hair, hornless)

 

But If I go with the mohawk for the first guy, then I don't know what to do with the second guy.  Maybe the mudbun?  <shudders>


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BioWare really didn't do themselves any favours by giving qunari access to only three hair meshes. Sure, hair isn't easy, and there are certainly constraints and hurdles of which we are ignorant, but it couldn't have been so difficult an endeavor that only 3 concepts were at all viable. With such a low number (and such universally short, plain hair) they had to realize a lot of people wouldn't see anything they liked. You can't skimp on a feature that players are forced to observe throughout the entire game and expect there to be no fuss.

 

I know this poll is unofficial and biased, but it's really the only I've got upon which to base numbers. As of today (31 October), it shows that 56% of 592 respondents don't like any of options, and 33% say that the lack of options will deter them from playing the race. Those figures are troubling.


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BioWare really didn't do themselves any favours by giving qunari access to only three hair meshes. Sure, hair isn't easy, and there are certainly constraints and hurdles of which we are ignorant, but it couldn't have been so difficult an endeavor that only 3 concepts were at all viable. With such a low number (and such universally short, plain hair) they had to realize a lot of people wouldn't see anything they liked. You can't skimp on a feature that players are forced to observe throughout the entire game and expect there to be no fuss.

 

I know this poll is unofficial and biased, but it's really the only I've got upon which to base numbers. As of today (31 October), it shows that 56% of 592 respondents don't like any of options, and 33% say that the lack of options will deter them from playing the race. Those figures are troubling.

 

Those numbers are troubling, and it is why I will be soldiering through playing a qunari.

 

I don't want BioWare's telemetry to convince them to take away being able to play qunari in future. 



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Whe can't even hide their shame D:

I just don't understand what made them think these 3 styles were a good idea. If they were going to restrict it to three styles shared by both genders, why not go safe and with a sure thing?

1-a slicked back ponytail that reaches the shoulders
2-a standard "boy short" hairstyle like default Carver, femhawke, Cassandra, etc...
3-a buzz cut

Or something.

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Who likes buzzcuts ?



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Who likes buzzcuts ?

 

I certainly like them better than a squeaky clean waxed head......  To be honest, I'd take a buzz cut over pretty much all of the ones being offered.


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To me buzzcuts are like, I dunno what exactly, always looks either generic or ugly imo. Cole McGrath, Nico Bellic, Starkiller, male Shep, etc. Especially Starkiller cause I saw that actor with normal short hair and he looks pretty cool, while Starkiller looks terrible

 

But fair enough, I don't like bald either. Though it works on some



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To me buzzcuts are like, I dunno what exactly, always looks either generic or ugly imo. Cole McGrath, Nico Bellic, Starkiller, male Shep, etc. Especially Starkiller cause I saw that actor with normal short hair and he looks pretty cool, while Starkiller looks terrible

 

But fair enough, I don't like bald either. Though it works on some

They're not my first choice either, but it's a safe choice and a lot of guys would choose it. It would definitely be more up my alley than waxed bald at least. Or maybe replace the waxed bald with a head stubble/crew cut and have:

 

1-Head stubble/crew cut which would replace the bald non-style (and would only require a texture rather than a new model)

2-Slicked back ponytail

3-Boy-short hair

4-Hair like the non-Arishok Qunari from DA2

 

I think most people would be at least satisfied with a selection like that, even if many would prefer a more extreme style. The current selection satisfies almost no one.


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I just don't understand why they offer wax bald but not fuzz.

 

 

They give the freaking elves fuzz but not the Qunari.

 

Wat.


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I just don't understand why they offer wax bald but not fuzz.

 

 

They give the freaking elves fuzz but not the Qunari.

 

Wat.

Nothing about the qunari hair situation makes any sense, period. Whoever was in charge of those decisions must have drinking on the job or something. 


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Nothing about the qunari hair situation makes any sense, period. Whoever was in charge of those decisions must have drinking on the job or something.

  

I love how the devs have completely ignored this issue--and particularly this thread--after Cameron Lee's perfunctory "we'll look into it post-launch" platitude.

I, for one, would LOVE if someone from the dev team could justify their baffling decisions regarding the female Qunari hair options (or rather, lackthereof).

I want the tech artists to defend their work and explain why the textures look significantly worse in comparison to the other styles.

I want the bean counters to explain why so few resources were allocated to the character customization of one of the most anticipated and hyped races.

And I want Laidlaw/Lee/whoever to explain why we couldn't have a separate hair/horn slider and why we can't have a truly hornless Qunari (without the black craters), and why the hornless Qunari can't borrow hairstyles from other races.

I wish they'd stop ignoring us... :(

The devs are willing to go into an absurd amount of detail explaining why they changed the healing mechanics and why they changed the way attribute points are allocated... But they act like CC concerns are frivolous and not worth their time. It's a bit infuriating, to be honest.

Those numbers are troubling, and it is why I will be soldiering through playing a qunari.
 
I don't want BioWare's telemetry to convince them to take away being able to play qunari in future.


If they come to that conclusion, then they're idiots. At least this thread has increased awareness of this issue... They have only themselves to blame if no one wants to play Qunari.
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I love how the devs have completely ignored this issue--and particularly this thread--after Cameron Lee's perfunctory "we'll look into it post-launch" platitude.

I, for one, would LOVE if someone from the dev team could justify their baffling decisions regarding the female Qunari hair options (or rather, lackthereof).

I want the tech artists to defend their work and explain why the textures look significantly worse in comparison to the other styles.

I want the bean counters to explain why so few resources were allocated to the character customization of one of the most anticipated and hyped races.

And I want Laidlaw/Lee/whoever to explain why we couldn't have a separate hair/horn slider and why we can't have a truly hornless Qunari (without the black craters), and why the hornless Qunari can't borrow hairstyles from other races.

I wish they'd stop ignoring us... :(

The devs are willing to go into an absurd amount of detail explaining why they changed the healing mechanics and why they changed the way attribute points are allocated... But they act like CC concerns are frivolous and not worth their time. It's a bit infuriating, to be honest.

 

What else do you expect them to say after "we'll look into adding more after launch"

 

And you can't really compare this to the healing mechanics


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What else do you expect them to say after "we'll look into adding more after launch"
 
And you can't really compare this to the healing mechanics


Um, did you even bother to read my post?

First of all, I dont "expect" them to say anything (they didn't even have to respond to this thread and it was nice that they said they'd look into adding more hairstyles after launch), but I would *like* it if they could explain 1) why they couldn't give us a separate slider to choose the horn style with each of the three hairstyles 2) whether they changed their own lore regarding truly hornless Qunari and why we can't play as one, and 3) why the hornless Qunari can't use the hairstyles other races have access to (it wouldn't pose clipping issues).

And don't tell me what comparisons I can and can't make: in both cases the fans had a legitimate concern with an aspect of the game that has a seemingly negative impact on their ability to enjoy the game; in both cases the fans took to the forum to voice their opinion and give Bioware feedback in the hopes that someone from the dev team would respond.

Just because YOU don't view CC customization options and healing mechanics as being equivalent in terms of their importance doesn't mean I should keep my mouth shut. I frankly don't give a damn Bioware removed healing spells; I have no issues whatsoever with the combat of DA:I, in fact, I think it looks bloody awesome!!!

The female Qunari hair, on the other hand, looks ATROCIOUS in my opinion and it makes me (and plenty of other fans) less likely to want to play as one.
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What else do you expect them to say after "we'll look into adding more after launch"

 

And you can't really compare this to the healing mechanics

I am in agreement healing mechanics and character creator options are not in the same league they already said they will address it post launch what more do you want them to say? 

 

Its an issue but not game breaking or a huge gameplay change like the healing mechanics. They will address the issue they have confirmed it what is the problem? Relax and wait. 



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So is anyone going to pick not the mohawk option, or has that just become the default Qunari hair for pretty much everyone? Because I mean between that and the skin blotches of no horns... 



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So is anyone going to pick not the mohawk option, or has that just become the default Qunari hair for pretty much everyone? Because I mean between that and the skin blotches of no horns... 

I am not going to pick the Mohawk and going to go with broken horns on my Male Qunari mage for my first playthrough. Oh and my female warrior Qunari I will pick the bun option with the horn attachments. 



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So is anyone going to pick not the mohawk option, or has that just become the default Qunari hair for pretty much everyone? Because I mean between that and the skin blotches of no horns... 

 

Waiting until CC to final pick, but I'm thinking either bald with the golden ram horns or a blonde mohawk.



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So is anyone going to pick not the mohawk option, or has that just become the default Qunari hair for pretty much everyone? Because I mean between that and the skin blotches of no horns... 

I'll make a face and try the three hair options in different colors to see if any look tolerable, if not I'll just skip female Qunari.


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I think you are all missing a very important point!

Hair on a Qunari is an option to play the game as you would like.

No different to dual wielding for a warrior.

What I hate is being forced to play a game in a preset way. Shades of DAII. Human only, can't play as mage with Bethany. Can't play as Elf or Dwarf.

I hoped Bioware would have learnt their lesson. I don't want to play Skyrim but I do want to play with the Bioware story but without these stupid restrictions.

 

So help me if all the Qunari males have are 6 different versions of Bald/Cornrows there is going to be a serious case of pre-order cancelling around here. Unfortunately, I doubt I'll be able to find out before release. 

I'm with Chronoid



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So is anyone going to pick not the mohawk option, or has that just become the default Qunari hair for pretty much everyone? Because I mean between that and the skin blotches of no horns... 

 

Despite everything, the mohawk is still the one I dislike most. I don't like the style; I generally do not find mohawks aesthetically pleasing, and they carry certain connotations that I don't want associated with my characters (they are classically associated with anti-establishment, barbaric, or low-brow individuals). The one I dislike least is actually the mudbun - which is funny, in a sad way, because the first time I saw it, I was certain I'd never select it.

 

Mind you, I don't know that the above is relevant, given that I plan to put my qunari build on hold until such a time as other options are available. So really, my answer is 'Not Applicable'.



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Only 18 days, we can do this! It's the home stretch now. :)

lucky for america i live in europe QQ