Guest_Amanda Palmer_*
So was I well I wasn't too stoke on a male qunari.
Agreed though I'll stick with humans til a mod comes out that fixes the qunari hair. This is seriously bumming. I should've suspected something when the Qunari lady's mage hair was so short in the gameplaythroughs. Too late now.
See the mod won't even fix it for me. I am on a console - like many players. I think I'd even settle for some of the god awful hairstyles for fem shep at this point.
It should be pointed out that rendering realistic, long and flowing hair is incredibly difficult. Not only does it require an incredibly powerful graphics card(s) that can render each and every strand of hair, but then you need the actual physics in order for the hair to behave properly. Nvidia has done a fairly good job of simulating hair, but as it stands, it's not really feasible with current hardware. It's just easier to model shorter hair and you don't have to worry about it clipping or behaving properly. This is really more of a technological limit rather than BioWare being unwilling to actually do it. At some point Frostbite 3 may incorporate a module that simulates realistic hair and this will no longer be a concern. That time is not now, however.
Let's not forget preventing clipping with all the horn options as well if they had long hair and the physics of it.
Guest_Amanda Palmer_*
It should be pointed out that rendering realistic, long and flowing hair is incredibly difficult. Not only does it require an incredibly powerful graphics card(s) that can render each and every strand of hair, but then you need the actual physics in order for the hair to behave properly. Nvidia has done a fairly good job of simulating hair, but as it stands, it's not really feasible with current hardware. It's just easier to model shorter hair and you don't have to worry about it clipping or behaving properly. This is really more of a technological limit rather than BioWare being unwilling to actually do it. At some point Frostbite 3 may incorporate a module that simulates realistic hair and this will no longer be a concern. That time is not now, however.
pff. Dragon's Dogma had awesome hairstyles. Long, short, everything.
Who knows? A hornless female isn't allowed the same - or similar - hair as a human. The hornless one doesn't even have horns to compromise the style, thus it makes no sense. Ugh. Options for Qunari aesthetics = serious fail.
I'm still grumbling about that.
I mean if all the long styles had been locked to the stubs/hornless I'd be disappointed but there still would've been the option for longer hair.
Meh.
Hopefully hornless Qunari getting ported human hair models will be an early mod. I can live without the horns for better hair.
See the mod won't even fix it for me. I am on a console - like many players. I think I'd even settle for some of the god awful hairstyles for fem shep at this point.
Maybe a dlc?
It should be pointed out that rendering realistic, long and flowing hair is incredibly difficult. Not only does it require an incredibly powerful graphics card(s) that can render each and every strand of hair, but then you need the actual physics in order for the hair to behave properly. Nvidia has done a fairly good job of simulating hair, but as it stands, it's not really feasible with current hardware. It's just easier to model shorter hair and you don't have to worry about it clipping or behaving properly. This is really more of a technological limit rather than BioWare being unwilling to actually do it. At some point Frostbite 3 may incorporate a module that simulates realistic hair and this will no longer be a concern. That time is not now, however.
But you can have short hair that gives the impression of length. Buns, braids and a high ponytail.
Sadly the one bun qunaris do get...doesn't look that well done.
It should be pointed out that rendering realistic, long and flowing hair is incredibly difficult. Not only does it require an incredibly powerful graphics card(s) that can render each and every strand of hair, but then you need the actual physics in order for the hair to behave properly. Nvidia has done a fairly good job of simulating hair, but as it stands, it's not really feasible with current hardware. It's just easier to model shorter hair and you don't have to worry about it clipping or behaving properly. This is really more of a technological limit rather than BioWare being unwilling to actually do it. At some point Frostbite 3 may incorporate a module that simulates realistic hair and this will no longer be a concern. That time is not now, however.
Then you don't animate it, animated hair is frankly janky even with the physics so stationary is usually just aesthetically superior.
But, yeah those options are SUPER short, like I wanted my Fem Qunari to have short hair and this is to short for me in most cases. They really dropped the ball on this one, I'd guess that they've halved the interest in Fem Qunari, if not more.
When I woke up today, Qunari was on the top of my list of races to play as.
Now, it is tied for the bottom.
When I woke up today, Qunari was on the top of my list of races to play as.
Now, it is tied for the bottom.
I wouldn't go that far. Dalish elf and dwarf are still worse. 
Guest_Puddi III_*
Yeah those hair options are kinda sad.
I wouldn't go that far. Dalish elf and dwarf are still worse.
My list is now a four-way tie for least favorite, so...
The horns count as hair options, really, and they are nice and quite varied. I'd like to see more hairstyles, sure, but it certainly wasn't some big conspiracy hell-bent on duping the qunari fan-base.
What would BioWare possibly have to gain from "withholding this information"? If that was the case why would they show us a female qunari at all? And let me just remind you that they made the decision because people on the stream were asking for it so they could see the horn options. Lady dwarves haven't been shown at all; should we be worried and cry foul about that; is it a conspiracy? No.
And if they had given "dozens" [an exaggeration, I'm sure] of hairstyles and only a few horn options then people would be complaining about the lack of horn variety. And they can't just give "dozens" of each; that's not practical.
tl;dr
There's a whole lot of melodrama here.
And what if I do not care about horn options? They are lovely, but I would trade them all for decent hair options. Horns never were too varied in previous lore anyways, so whatever.
As for dozens, no, I'm not exaggeration, go watch that stream or latest CC video. Male humans get several long hairstyles and a braid bun for them! But no, can't do it for qunari.
You happy with pathetic four options? GOOD FOR YOU.
They didn't show us any long hair options for ages either (as in longer than Sera's hair), This lead some to believe that all the hairstyles would be incredibly short, they were wrong we just hadn't been shown yet. Most of the hairstyles weren't shown until the CC was locked, that's just because they weren't ready to show the CC yet (for whatever reason).
The qunari still have lots of different styles of horns to choose from, they don't really have less options, they just don't have the options we wanted them to have. Nobody falsely advertised to you or mislead you, you are just disappointed.
You must have missed fem!Trevelyan demo then. She rocked that long-haired undercut. Which would look epic with horns. But no, can't have it.
And again, I do not really care for horn options. It would have been nice cherry-on-the-top feature, sure, but I do not need them as a replacement for hair. So default horn style+hornless would have been enough for me if we got the same variety for hair as humans.
Guest_Amanda Palmer_*
Maybe a dlc?
Yes, that is my hope. A teeny tiny hope...
I wouldn't go that far. Dalish elf and dwarf are still worse.
Ehh overall I'd say Qunari are the very bottom of the list in terms of quality. I still like them because I'm on PC so I'll just fix it with mods and I have a love affair with horned races (Tieflings 
).
Unfortunately, I can see a number of people who might otherwise play qunari pass up on them due to this. Hair is one of the most defining physical features of a character. Not having those options when other races do, even with the addition of horns, may sway players away if they can't give their PC an aesthetic that they like. One only has to do a quick search through any of the main modding sites to see how prevalent hair mods are; hair is important to people. It may be vain, and it may only be an aesthetic choice, but there it is.
My list is now a four-way tie for least favorite, so...
*hugs*
Come to the human side with me and we shall make pretty quizzies!
Yes, that is my hope. A teeny tiny hope...
I was so pumped at the CC earlier too It's a lovely CC don't get me wrong but the qunari really did get the short stick with the hairstyles.
Ehh overall I'd say Qunari are the very bottom of the list in terms of quality. I still like them because I'm on PC so I'll just fix it with mods and I have a love affair with horned races (Tieflings
True I just would rather play them storywise than a dwarf and an elf.
That said elf probably will end up superior in looks. Still human shall be my first playthrough. Ugh NOW I NEED TO REFINE MY HUMAN CHARACTERIZATION.
Bah.
Least I know what she'll look like mostly now. So I can work from there.
Guest_Amanda Palmer_*
When I woke up today, Qunari was on the top of my list of races to play as.
Now, it is tied for the bottom.
I'm not even bothering with qunari until a magical DLC comes out and gives her better hair options. Also I'm a bit miffed that the mohawk doesn't have the classic horn option that goes back and points upward (bottom right). I saw only the horn option in which the horns go back and point downward (bottom center). Argh. So much yuck.
Since my fem qunari isn't allowed to romance Cullen or Solas, and since I can't design her with very many gorgeous options - she's pretty much a bust now. If she had a playable background that was unique to the gameplay then I'd give her a go, but honestly her race isn't going to make much of a difference. It's just going to limit me on aesthetics and romance. No thanks.
What if, in a display of masterful trolling, we discover that BioWare has given male Qunari the hair option that all Qunari men had in DA2.
I disagree completely. Horns are exactly what makes Qunari as a race unique in the first place.
If the males get the Sten hair but females don't I'll be upset. Sten's hair is longer than what the female qunari got. (and I have my doubts the male will get a longer version). They pretty much get it without the ponytail end.
So was I well I wasn't too stoke on a male qunari.
Agreed though I'll stick with humans til a mod comes out that fixes the qunari hair. This is seriously bumming. I should've suspected something when the Qunari lady's mage hair was so short in the gameplaythroughs. Too late now.
See the mod won't even fix it for me. I am on a console - like many players. I think I'd even settle for some of the god awful hairstyles for fem shep at this point.
pff. Dragon's Dogma had awesome hairstyles. Long, short, everything.
I'd be willing to play a qunari if I can kick it old school: no horns, bronze skin, etc.
If that's possible, then limited hair selections are only a mild inconvenience to me
It looks like it will be possible. You can even have purple eyes if you want.
Both of those are an option so your goodI'd be willing to play a qunari if I can kick it old school: no horns, bronze skin, etc.
If that's possible, then limited hair selections are only a mild inconvenience to me
I'm not even bothering with qunari until a magical DLC comes out and gives her better hair options. Also I'm a bit miffed that the mohawk doesn't have the classic horn option that goes back and points upward. I saw only the horn option in which the horns go back and point downward. Argh. So much yuck.
Since my fem qunari isn't allowed to romance Cullen or Solas, and since I can't design her with very many gorgeous options - she's pretty much a bust now. If she had a playable background that was unique to the gameplay then I'd give her a go, but honestly her race isn't going to make much of a difference. It's just going to limit me on aesthetics and romance. No thanks.
Yeah except switch dlc with mod.
Also exactly the race restircted romances plus this hair nonsense? Meeeh. Looks like human is the way to go. I mean I was really looking forward to the "OH GOD A QUNARI MAGE RUN!" but not enough to get past that hair. Too many disadvantages not enough advantages for me. I could've dealt with everything if I could tweak her to my liking...but since I can't screw it.
What if, in a display of masterful trolling, we discover that BioWare has given male Qunari the hair option that all Qunari men had in DA2.
Wow. That'd be so cruel XD
That said they'd make out like bandits. I wouldn't wish femqunari hair choices on anyone
And what if I do not care about horn options?
Don't play the race specifically described as "horned giants"?
Not to sound snippy or anything, but it's kind of that simple at this point. My post wasn't trying to convince you that horns were super cool and way better than all hair ever; I'm just saying it certainly wasn't some big bait-and-switch conspiracy on BioWare's part.
You expected something they never promised and got disappointed when it wasn't delivered. That's unfortunate for you.
It's kind of sad to think that Origins--a game that came out how many years ago?--has better hairstyles than Inquisition (at least for the Qunari!)
No mods for me (console peasant here)
But I heard that modding Inquisition on the PC was going to be difficult/impossible thanks to the new engine ?
Really =/
It is but I shall keep the hope alive!
(If it really ends up being impossible for even hair mods I guess I'll try to grit my teeth through a cornrow or bun playthrough) but knowing me I'll give up half way through the prologue and go back to human.
I'd be willing to play a qunari if I can kick it old school: no horns, bronze skin, etc.
If that's possible, then limited hair selections are only a mild inconvenience to me
This is possible.
The female elf tarot card has a plant growing out of her hand; is anybody going to complain about the fact that Inquisition's elves don't also perform photosynthesis? (PREORDER CANCELED imo.)
No BioWare game thus far has managed long hair in a modular character creator; no explicit promise was made that long hair would definitely be in Inquisition. Those are really the only calculations that matter, not depictions of qunari with longer, fuller hair in other media. Your expectations are your own business, but in this case I would suggest that they are far more the result of unrealistically wishful thinking rather than some sort of failure on the part of devs and/or marketing.
Come on, let people be disappointed a little. Most people aren't losing their minds or anything, it's just disappointing for people who wanted fuller hair styles for their qunari females. And sure you can say they never promised us anything, but people's imaginations are shaped by the experiences they've already had. Those concept arts/comic stills are literally the only experience we've had with female qunari. Of course our hopes are shaped by them. It doesn't mean Bioware has somehow failed completely or anything, but it's a legitimate criticism of the character creator. One of the few, really, since Bioware clearly put a lot of work into it and it has a staggering amount of customization options. So let people vent a little, that's what the topic is for.
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