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[Soldatto Rosso]

 

I just realized something. So often they quote that the problem with providing long hair is that it clips. 

 

But my freaking armour clips horribly! There's a long jacket and the shirt tails are constantly coming right through the back of the jacket.

 

So why is armour clipping acceptable but hair clipping isn't? 

 

 

Yeah, Cass's arms clip through her weapons and various collars for armor poke through my chin and face. I'm sure Bioware's clipping excuse is just that, an excuse, as they are really awful at making hair for player characters.

 

Which is weird since their npc hair look pretty damn good.

[Gordon_4]

 
That won't change anything for us console users

No, which is why it would be better if they can either release some cheap sets of cosmetic DLC or patch it in as a fix - I'd be super okay to learn that additional hair styles were cut back on to be distributed in post release patches so that more important issues can be addressed. As long as they toss in something like the mirror in the DAII's Black Emporium so we can change on the fly, it'll be sweet.

[Naoto]

Yeah, Cass's arms clip through her weapons and various collars for armor poke through my chin and face. I'm sure Bioware's clipping excuse is just that, an excuse, as they are really awful at making hair for player characters.

 

Which is weird since their npc hair look pretty damn good.

Iron Bull's entire right arm clips right through his body at times.

Does that mean Qunari can't have right arms?

[Barachim]

Man, I didn't know that this was actually an issue. I don't have the game yet, but I liked the idea of creating a female Qunari. So I looked up some Youtube videos of the character creator, to see what options we have. Well, or rather lack of options. All my female Qunari plans pretty much went down the drain.

 

And I see that the excuse for lack of hair options are clipping issues. But I see tons of examples already posted on the first page, with short hair options that look great, and wouldn't get in the way of the horns.

 

I really hope there will eventually be a patch or at least free DLC, that adds more options to the character creator. Otherwise the Qunari are the one race that I will never play. Sounds silly, but it is what it is.

[SpiritMuse]

I was making a human male, put the ponytail on him, and THE HAIR CLIPPED THROUGH HIS EARS.

Yes it did. And there was no configuration of ears that I could find that would make it not clip.

Then I checked out the fem Qunari and it was even worse than I had expected because I hadn't realized there were literally only three different hairstyles. Three. Oh yeah, and bald, but that doesn't count. Also, why does the cornrows style look half bald in the hornless version when it doesn't in the horned version? Where'd all that hair go? If the cornrows had gone down the side of the head as well it wouldn't have been quite so bad.

But three!

[Tex]

I was making a human male, put the ponytail on him, and THE HAIR CLIPPED THROUGH HIS EARS.
Yes it did. And there was no configuration of ears that I could find that would make it not clip.
Then I checked out the fem Qunari and it was even worse than I had expected because I hadn't realized there were literally only three different hairstyles. Three. Oh yeah, and bald, but that doesn't count. Also, why does the cornrows style look half bald in the hornless version when it doesn't in the horned version? Where'd all that hair go? If the cornrows had gone down the side of the head as well it wouldn't have been quite so bad.
But three!

Ah but you mustn't forget M qunari 4 F qunari 3 oh and while I remember there's a glitch going around where the game won't recognize you as qunari for one mission and instead reconizes you as Tevallion and makes it so you can wear helmets and not vitaar for the whole game isn't that just great? Pity it's random

[Mad Cassidy]

Well, I tried. I made my female Qunari, got her facial features nailed down to near perfection, and then went to select hair. And then I gave up. It's still a huge letdown. It's still baffling that they only deigned to make 3 meshes showing about the shortest, most severe, most poorly textured hair imaginable. And I'm still going to put my qunari playthrough on hold until there are tolerable options.

 

It's sad, because aside from the abysmal selection of hair, the qunari are great. But if I'm going to be playing through 80 hours of content with one character, I don't want to put up with hair I can't stand, especially if I'm picking up cool hats and helmets left right and centre that I can't even equip. I don't want to have to select between the worst hair options present in the game, and not even have the opportunity to cover them up. (Seriously, not only do qunari have the fewest and plainest hairstyles, they also can't wear helmets. Not exactly a winning combination.)

[Doominike]

Well I ended up following my initial plan and played as a BFS warrior qunari gal, she didn't look quite as awesome as I expected when they 1st announced the race as playable but she was still fine by me

 

Doesn't mean I wouldn't totes buy better ones though

[HeyCal]

To add to the clipping topic, a certain passed party member has bangs that constantly clip into her cheek.

Spoiler

but dammit Morrigan I love your hair regardless and want to steal it!!

[LostInReverie19]

Bump, because I fully support more hair options for Qunari and also for every race and gender (because honestly the lack of hair options we have right now is incredibly disappointing)! 

[Barachim]

With the lack of any decent hair, the Qunari are actually doubly disappointing. You'd think, if you can't have any proper hair options, you might at least select some decent horns to cover your head. Yeah, no luck there. The placement of the horns are all the same, no matter which design you choose, and only vary in length, curve design, or other decorative details. You can't even have simple short horns. If you don't want long ones, your only option is to choose the ones that are broken off.

 

If I had the option to maybe select more protruding foreheads, wider horns, even choose the number of horns, have styles that grow along my head, I could totally overlook the fact that hair options are limited. Because I could still make my Qunari look really interesting. Instead they are boring and basic, and it's like I choose from a selection of Devil horns. One of the options even just looks like simple goat horns.

 

If you could make your Qunari look like the picture below, the current hair options would be more than acceptable. But with the lack of horn designs and hair options, Qunaris right now all look basic and uninspired.

 

[Katari]

With the lack of any decent hair, the Qunari are actually doubly disappointing. You'd think, if you can't have any proper hair options, you might at least select some decent horns to cover your head. Yeah, no luck there. The placement of the horns are all the same, no matter which design you choose, and only vary in length, curve design, or other decorative details. You can't even have simple short horns. If you don't want long ones, your only option is to choose the ones that are broken off.

 

If I had the option to maybe select more protruding foreheads, wider horns, even choose the number of horns, have styles that grow along my head, I could totally overlook the fact that hair options are limited. Because I could still make my Qunari look really interesting. Instead they are boring and basic, and it's like I choose from a selection of Devil horns. One of the options even just looks like simple goat horns.

 

If you could make your Qunari look like the picture below, the current hair options would be more than acceptable. But with the lack of horn designs and hair options, Qunaris right now all look basic and uninspired.

 

I completely agree.  I was definitely disappointed you couldn't give a Qunari Inquisitor horns resembling those of the Qunari that showed up in DA2.  They had less pronounced horns along with the long white hair.  I would have preferred that to some of the options that we got.

[Barachim]

I completely agree.  I was definitely disappointed you couldn't give a Qunari Inquisitor horns resembling those of the Qunari that showed up in DA2.  They had less pronounced horns along with the long white hair.  I would have preferred that to some of the options that we got.

 

Qunari in Dragon Age 2, definitely had a far more interesting design. Even with basically no horns, they still look far more interesting than the hornless Qunari in Inquisition. I really liked the conscious decision to give them a more unique look, that really set them apart, and didn't just make them look like a tall human anymore, like Sten in Dragon Age Origin.

 

 

Now it looks like Bioware backtracked, and made them look more like regular people with horns. I miss their almost demonic vibe from Dragon Age 2.

[Tex]

Ah so it's finally been said yes Qunari just don't have that solely unique look and feel to them anymore it's quite saddening that they went the direction they went you can't even make them look similar to the dragon age 2 qunari in the facial department which is a real let down I mean seriously one set of horns come on bioware "sigh" oh and did you know that the qunari have a huge glitch at the moment where they can't wear armor?

[SpiritMuse]

No ponytails at all. No medium length, only mudbun, cornrows, mohawk, and bald. There isn't even something resembling Sten's hair. Now that I would use.

The thing is, if it were established that Qunari regularly had these kinds of hairstyles it would have been fine. But all Qunari we've seen up til now have had long flowing hair. So it doesn't even really look Qunari.

[Caboods]

Haven't been here quite a while, but I thought I might add that I now sincerly think the qunari CC needs several changes.

a) More and better hairstyles, that one is pretty obvious

b.) Better complexions. We get 16 complexions in total, and 10 of those are looking aged, setting the qunari Inquisitor around 40, 4 or 5 even older, 60 or 70. Seriously? I think it is a good idea to give you the option, but most players will definitely choose complexions that set their characters between 20 - 30, and I think it is save to say that they would want more choices for complexions that reflect this age-range. From what I'`ve seen from the other races, this is exactly how they did it. Just not for the qunari.

c) More skintones. I was really, really baffled that we only get so few dark skintones. 2 dark ones, one brown, one a dark grey. The rest ranges around pale, and a somewhat middle-tone grey.

d) Better eyes. Nothing is wrong with the choices for eyes per se, but more than half of the eyes for female qunari have very weird, stretched textures on the eyelids, which only get intensified with makeup. I don't know how it is for male qunari, but it also really limits the choices you have.

 

That's what bothered me, feel free to add anything to that list

 

[Roofie]

Haven't been here quite a while, but I thought I might add that I now sincerly think the qunari CC needs several changes.

a) More and better hairstyles, that one is pretty obvious

b.) Better complexions. We get 16 complexions in total, and 10 of those are looking aged, setting the qunari Inquisitor around 40, 4 or 5 even older, 60 or 70. Seriously? I think it is a good idea to give you the option, but most players will definitely choose complexions that set their characters between 20 - 30, and I think it is save to say that they would want more choices for complexions that reflect this age-range. From what I'`ve seen from the other races, this is exactly how they did it. Just not for the qunari.

c) More skintones. I was really, really baffled that we only get so few dark skintones. 2 dark ones, one brown, one a dark grey. The rest ranges around pale, and a somewhat middle-tone grey.

d) Better eyes. Nothing is wrong with the choices for eyes per se, but more than half of the eyes for female qunari have very weird, stretched textures on the eyelids, which only get intensified with makeup. I don't know how it is for male qunari, but it also really limits the choices you have.

 

That's what bothered me, feel free to add anything to that list

 

 

Though this is taking the thread a little off topic, I'd like to note an additional for B - 4ish of the complexions are actually identical, except for how worn the dark skin is around their horn base. There's legitimately no other difference, I screenshot some cos I was confused as to why they looked the same....

 

Spoiler

 

(also, I had to go back to my Qunari playthrough cos I was not enjoying being Dalish. I'd had my heart set on being Qunari for so long, I'm just having to live with how crap her hair is and pretend in various cutscenes, that she has a long ponytail).

 

P.S. if anyone wants to draw some shoulder length hair on her, I won't say no

[Barachim]

Haven't been here quite a while, but I thought I might add that I now sincerly think the qunari CC needs several changes.

a) More and better hairstyles, that one is pretty obvious

b.) Better complexions. We get 16 complexions in total, and 10 of those are looking aged, setting the qunari Inquisitor around 40, 4 or 5 even older, 60 or 70. Seriously? I think it is a good idea to give you the option, but most players will definitely choose complexions that set their characters between 20 - 30, and I think it is save to say that they would want more choices for complexions that reflect this age-range. From what I'`ve seen from the other races, this is exactly how they did it. Just not for the qunari.

c) More skintones. I was really, really baffled that we only get so few dark skintones. 2 dark ones, one brown, one a dark grey. The rest ranges around pale, and a somewhat middle-tone grey.

d) Better eyes. Nothing is wrong with the choices for eyes per se, but more than half of the eyes for female qunari have very weird, stretched textures on the eyelids, which only get intensified with makeup. I don't know how it is for male qunari, but it also really limits the choices you have.

 

That's what bothered me, feel free to add anything to that list

 

 

I would also add more horn options to that. Having wider and shorter options, more pronounced foreheads, a smaller secondary set of horns. Basically the ability to make your Qunari look like they did in Dragon Age 2.

[Mad Cassidy]

As much as it would be great to have more complexions, better eyes, and even more horns, I can live with those options we currently have. The hair, I can't.

 

I'd rather BioWare focus on hair first, because while having more complexions is a 'nice addition', it's nowhere near as noticeable as the fact that qunari only get 3 widely disliked hair meshes (the unofficial poll shows only 39% of some 760 respondents like any of the options, and 38% say that the lack of options will deter them from playing qunari characters - that's a pretty damning indictment of the quality and appeal of the hair options). It's distractingly evident that qunari were added after human characters. There's definitely a lack of polish about their CC options. Hair looks like it was either thrown in at the very last minute, or never got worked on past the first few concept meshes.* I'd be hard pressed to think up more minimalist styles than those provided. It's sad that a new race like this suffers from such a lack of options, because the potential is definitely there.

 

So while it would be nice if they could give the entire CC a bit more polish, I'd rather they prioritize and focus on the most egregious offender first. That way I can actually go and create my damn character.

 

 

* And maybe there are a bunch of factors we're not considering. Maybe someone did work really hard on them. But, at the risk of sounding callous, no-one gets points for effort. It's only the final product that's judged.

[Caboods]

Oh no I absolutely agree Cassidy, I just wanted to say that if we are on the topic of fixing things, those might be some areas that could need work too. Because overall the CC for the qunari feels unpolished compared to the other races, like you said.

But yeah, hair - above all else - needs to be adressed first and foremost. I just wanted to point out some other stuff that was bothering me

[Barachim]

Yeah, I definitely agree as well. Hair styles need the bulk of Bioware's attention. While I might not be too happy with current Horn options, some well designed Hair options, would do a lot to help make the Qunari look visually more pleasing.

[Todd23]

My Qunari had the dumbest looking hair I've ever seen, because it was literally the only option that came with the horns I wanted. Now some might ask why that didn't deter me from taking it anyways, well there was absolutely no GOOD hair option.

[Naoto]

Head options in general aren't too great. Look at the Templar helmet, it's 3 times the size a normal helmet should be.

[AsianSweetie95]

With the lack of any decent hair, the Qunari are actually doubly disappointing. You'd think, if you can't have any proper hair options, you might at least select some decent horns to cover your head. Yeah, no luck there. The placement of the horns are all the same, no matter which design you choose, and only vary in length, curve design, or other decorative details. You can't even have simple short horns. If you don't want long ones, your only option is to choose the ones that are broken off.

 

If I had the option to maybe select more protruding foreheads, wider horns, even choose the number of horns, have styles that grow along my head, I could totally overlook the fact that hair options are limited. Because I could still make my Qunari look really interesting. Instead they are boring and basic, and it's like I choose from a selection of Devil horns. One of the options even just looks like simple goat horns.

 

If you could make your Qunari look like the picture below, the current hair options would be more than acceptable. But with the lack of horn designs and hair options, Qunaris right now all look basic and uninspired.

 

thats a sexy qunari female! i love it