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[Saphiron123]

Agree! I thought they looked super cool in DA2! When I heard we were getting the chance to play qunari I was super excited. Unfortunately, I didn't realize that when they said "qunari" what they meant was "tall humans". Like, I dunno about male qunari since I havent bothered looking at them, but the ladies seriously look like they just took humans and attached these stupid thin horns to their foreheads at a really strange angle. (Am I the only ones who feels like there are only 2-3 horn types that dont look awkward?) And you cant even give them a big forehead cuz then the horns clip through.

This! A thousand times this.

I wanted an Arishok of my own. Black eyes, giant horns, Corypheus would poop himself.

Can't get anywhere close, they redesigned one of the best races in the game.

[Felya87]

In truth all the Qunari had the same model with just monor changes...but I would have liked the chance to have the black outside the iris.

[Tiranoc]

While the DA2 Qunari may all have looked the same at least their heads were proportionate to the rest of their body unlike the Qunari of inquisition.  And I personally think the horns from DA2 were way nicer in looks, shape, and where they were placed on the head.  The way the horns are handled in DAI just feels wrong to me.  But at least we got the Qunari as a playable race, even if they were horribly mangled in the process. 

[Mari]

While the DA2 Qunari may all have looked the same at least their heads were proportionate to the rest of their body unlike the Qunari of inquisition.  And I personally think the horns from DA2 were way nicer in looks, shape, and where they were placed on the head.  The way the horns are handled in DAI just feels wrong to me.  But at least we got the Qunari as a playable race, even if they were horribly mangled in the process. 

 

Yes! I'm glad I'm not the only one who found the horn placement awkward looking. The way they attach to the head just looks weird and wrong! (at least on the females. The males look like they have a thicker horn base and it looks a little bit more normal)

[Saphiron123]

While the DA2 Qunari may all have looked the same at least their heads were proportionate to the rest of their body unlike the Qunari of inquisition.  And I personally think the horns from DA2 were way nicer in looks, shape, and where they were placed on the head.  The way the horns are handled in DAI just feels wrong to me.  But at least we got the Qunari as a playable race, even if they were horribly mangled in the process. 

Yeah this "single horn on each side" business isn't working for me... The da2 horns were short, but there was a pair and it looked cool. The arishok had three when you look closely. Now those were horns. I feel like my Qunari is just hitting puberty or something.

Of course all the new Qunari could be underwear models so... Yeah, it's just wrong.

[Sherrid]

I think the joke is on neither since they said that about companion hair which has gotten better. 

 

Those examples would have been nice. 

These are so pretty.

 

I would think if your in a game business one of the things you would moniter when you putout a game would be... what are the first things people want and start making for themselves... What stirs up the most immediate ferver!!! And when you make your next game make sure it is a significant part of the new game.

 

And the lists always want things like more hairstyles and thats when they have a good basic base of hairstyles to chose from. This last game it was almost like the said 'to hell with it, let them make their own" and then made the process as difficult as possible. Ive never seen so many crew cuts and shaved heads since last I went to a military base.

[Felya87]

This tread has been there from before the game was out. And after almost seven month from when the game was released, BioWare didn't even mentioned hair and given any kind of explanation about the argumant. And I still ask myself: does anyone even read the forum? is there someone with twitter who can ask someone at BioWare if they know they have an official forum and people are leaving there feedback? I'd like to know if at least someone is considering our feedback or at least know the hair are a problem for many players. (even better, if they have the decency to do something. one thing is not doing nothing, but doing nothing and not even having the heart to say so, would be already something. Not leaving with no answers at all for more than half a year!!!)

[Raptor2213]

This right here is why, if I see "EA" on a game, I drop it like it's on fire.  It's pretty obvious that they don't care about their user base.  This is one of the biggest topics on the feedback forum and has been mostly ignored by Bioware/EA.  

[Felya87]

This right here is why, if I see "EA" on a game, I drop it like it's on fire. It's pretty obvious that they don't care about their user base. This is one of the biggest topics on the feedback forum and has been mostly ignored by Bioware/EA.

This time I can't blame EA. If it was For EA, customization paks would have been already released. IS good Money with relatively Little effort, after all. This time I blame BioWare disinterest towards their fans. Expecially For the total lack of comunication.

[Poisd2Strike]

This time I can't blame EA. If it was For EA, customization paks would have been already released. IS good Money with relatively Little effort, after all. This time I blame BioWare disinterest towards their fans. Expecially For the total lack of comunication.

 

For the lack of communication, I agree that Bioware is to blame.  However, EA determines how much Bioware gets in its budget for a game.  My guess is that either EA didn't foresee character customization options (in DAI) being a high priority from a player's (read: customer's) perspective, or Bioware is aware of the situation but never asked for additional funds after DAI's release, or Bioware did request additional funding but that request was denied by EA or Bioware is actually working on something but cannot discuss that at present.  I am hoping it is the last option, but I am not holding my breathe at this point.  Incidentally, I noticed on the Xbox Marketplace (just today) that there is some sort of "Avvar Pack DLC" that costs $4.99 (USD).  Hopefully, we will eventually see a Character Customization Pack DLC that costs no more than $4.99 (USD) and at least introduces a few more "feminine" hairstyles for female Inquisitors (especially Qunari).

[Felya87]

For the lack of communication, I agree that Bioware is to blame. However, EA determines how much Bioware gets in its budget for a game. My guess is that either EA didn't foresee character customization options (in DAI) being a high priority from a player's (read: customer's) perspective, or Bioware is aware of the situation but never asked for additional funds after DAI's release, or Bioware did request additional funding but that request was denied by EA or Bioware is actually working on something but cannot discuss that at present. I am hoping it is the last option, but I am not holding my breathe at this point. Incidentally, I noticed on the Xbox Marketplace (just today) that there is some sort of "Avvar Pack DLC" that costs $4.99 (USD). Hopefully, we will eventually see a Character Customization Pack DLC that costs no more than $4.99 (USD) and at least introduces a few more "feminine" hairstyles for female Inquisitors (especially Qunari).

I think is more BioWare than EA that doesn't seeprifit on hair and customization pack outside armours. This because EA worked a lot making hair pack For the sims 3.
So they Know How much People Like stuff like hair and clothes when there is a customizable character. Even Action games Like uncharted 2-3 let the player customize the character, even if there was no statistic in play. (not d'or free, but there is)

I really can't understand this stubbordness by bioware to not listen to what the fan want.

[berelinde]

I think is more BioWare than EA that doesn't seeprifit on hair and customization pack outside armours. This because EA worked a lot making hair pack For the sims 3.
So they Know How much People Like stuff like hair and clothes when there is a customizable character. Even Action games Like uncharted 2-3 let the player customize the character, even if there was no statistic in play. (not d'or free, but there is)

I really can't understand this stubbordness by bioware to not listen to what the fan want.

Coming out with a hair/outfit pack would sound a lot like an admission that something was lacking in the first place, and that's something all developers avoid. How long did it take them to acknowledge that some areas of DA2 could use improvement? Ultimately, they never did resolve customer complaints with DA2, but they did make changes going forward.Sadly, that's probably what's going to happen here.

 

On a conceptual level, I don't have a problem with unisex hair. We have cultural expectations that men will have shorter hair than women, but Thedas needn't share it. Of course, given the fact that most of the styles have sideburns and/or a receding hairline, they seem to have interpreted "unisex" as "universally male." And that's a concept I don't appreciate.

[Felya87]

Coming out with a hair/outfit pack would sound a lot like an admission that something was lacking in the first place, and that's something all developers avoid. How long did it take them to acknowledge that some areas of DA2 could use improvement? Ultimately, they never did resolve customer complaints with DA2, but they did make changes going forward.Sadly, that's probably what's going to happen here.

 

On a conceptual level, I don't have a problem with unisex hair. We have cultural expectations that men will have shorter hair than women, but Thedas needn't share it. Of course, given the fact that most of the styles have sideburns and/or a receding hairline, they seem to have interpreted "unisex" as "universally male." And that's a concept I don't appreciate.

 

If they can strip a DLC of armour to make another pack items, I doubt they would really care about "admitting" anything. 

 

DA2 was improved in some areas. The DLCs are away from Kirkwall, for example. and have different enviromant. Of course they couldn't put there playable races on a game already made.

 

The cultural expectation about what is feminine and not is something that still surprise me, since only my grandmother dared to say to me I seemed a boy the first time I cut my hair, when I was barely ten. And my mom shutted her up, since she was the first with short hair.

 

My cousin cut hair for work, and she cut regularly short hair on woman. I've always seen more woman with short or chin lengh hair than long haired ones. That's why I can't understand the guys that can't like women with short hair. Have they ever look around? Do they know what a woman actually is?

 

The problem with DAI hair are the receding hairline, that as you said, it means the hair aren't unisex, but male hair slapped on female skulls, and the quantity of shaved buzzcuts. I don't know nor man, nor woman that would be so keen to have such hair in a fantasy setting! This is the problem for me. I expect in Thedas to see long hair, I expect to see long, wild hair on male characters, and complicated, elegant braided styles on females. I expected to see braids and ponytails, and all the in between. I expected chin lenght hair, I expected little braids here and there to adorn the scalp.

Surely I didn't expected so many not "short", but shaved military-style buzzcuts!!! those are definitively non-fantasy friendly!

[Natashina]

 

 

On a conceptual level, I don't have a problem with unisex hair. We have cultural expectations that men will have shorter hair than women, but Thedas needn't share it. Of course, given the fact that most of the styles have sideburns and/or a receding hairline, they seem to have interpreted "unisex" as "universally male." And that's a concept I don't appreciate.

It's something that writers acknowledge can be a problem.  It's easy to default to "male" as the standard norm.  BioWare tries to be conscious of it, but they've freely admitted that they have work to do in that department.  

 

@Felya:  Do some research on your own about shaved styles.  Besides, this is fantasy, and it doesn't have to adhere to anyone's standards.  That being said, the only reason for the lack of braided and longer styles is time and manhours.  It is a shame that they didn't consider this from the start, but being extremely upset about it isn't doing you any good.  <hugs>

 

My issue is that there is a huge number of them, with receding hairlines and flipping side burns.  It's still surprising to me that they didn't think of putting sideburns on a separate slider for both genders.  I also have called shenanigans on the clipping excuse completely.  I'm wearing a Battlemage Coat and all three of the longer styles (including the half shaved one) clip through my armor.  They aren't mods, they are the longer hair styles that came with the game.  The clipping excuse doesn't explain the lack of even braided buns and the like.

 

Despite the lack of communication on the forums, they have been noting that Frostbite is becoming easier to work with now that they've had sometime to play with it over the last 6 months or so.  We shouldn't take the silence on the forums as personal, because it really isn't.  I don't think that a hair and/or clothing pack is off of the table at all, but if there isn't, I don't think it's because of any sort of "Gotcha" towards the fans. 

 

As an aside, I want to mention that for people that want to play black characters, some have said that two of those more shaved styles are the only ones that look like their natural style.  Where at least some fuller and curlier hair?  The cornrows for all races that don't look like lumps of model clay?

[berelinde]

Actually, the hair options for a protagonist of color are are a lot better than they have been in previous games. I won't say that there is no room for expanded options because I'd love to see cornrows or dreads, but unlike DAO and DA2, DAI features several styles with great natural texture. My personal favorite for POC Inquisitors is the shaped style that Ser Barris wears, but others are good, too.

[Raptor2213]

I find it offensive that we would have to purchase a DLC to get a hair that resembles the racial portrait card - which is another thing I despise about EA.

 

 

For the lack of communication, I agree that Bioware is to blame.  However, EA determines how much Bioware gets in its budget for a game.  My guess is that either EA didn't foresee character customization options (in DAI) being a high priority from a player's (read: customer's) perspective, or Bioware is aware of the situation but never asked for additional funds after DAI's release, or Bioware did request additional funding but that request was denied by EA or Bioware is actually working on something but cannot discuss that at present.  I am hoping it is the last option, but I am not holding my breathe at this point.  Incidentally, I noticed on the Xbox Marketplace (just today) that there is some sort of "Avvar Pack DLC" that costs $4.99 (USD).  Hopefully, we will eventually see a Character Customization Pack DLC that costs no more than $4.99 (USD) and at least introduces a few more "feminine" hairstyles for female Inquisitors (especially Qunari).

[Nefla]

This tread has been there from before the game was out. And after almost seven month from when the game was released, BioWare didn't even mentioned hair and given any kind of explanation about the argumant. And I still ask myself: does anyone even read the forum? is there someone with twitter who can ask someone at BioWare if they know they have an official forum and people are leaving there feedback? I'd like to know if at least someone is considering our feedback or at least know the hair are a problem for many players. (even better, if they have the decency to do something. one thing is not doing nothing, but doing nothing and not even having the heart to say so, would be already something. Not leaving with no answers at all for more than half a year!!!)

Didn't one of the devs reply to this thread before the game came out and basically say "nope these are the only styles for Qunari, sorry you're disappointed" and then never came back?

 

 

On a conceptual level, I don't have a problem with unisex hair. We have cultural expectations that men will have shorter hair than women, but Thedas needn't share it. Of course, given the fact that most of the styles have sideburns and/or a receding hairline, they seem to have interpreted "unisex" as "universally male." And that's a concept I don't appreciate.

I would have wanted shoulder length or decently ponytailed hair on male Qunari. Not to mention they could have chosen to make some stylish or cool short hairstyles, pulled back hairstyles, actual mohawks (rather than the weird stubby baby-in-the bath mohawk) various updo's, etc...but instead they chose:

-Schoolmarm center part with weirdly tiny bun

-Completely waxed bald

-Weird runty "mohawk"

-Very poorly textured and overly thick "corn rows"

(well all of the Qunari styles were very poorly textured compared to the ones used by the other races)

 

  I also have called shenanigans on the clipping excuse completely.  I'm wearing a Battlemage Coat and all three of the longer styles (including the half shaved one) clip through my armor.  They aren't mods, they are the longer hair styles that came with the game.  The clipping excuse doesn't explain the lack of even braided buns and the like.

Not to mention the male elf arms have always clipped severely inside the torso, the character's collars and shoulder pads clip into their faces, and during conversations my Qunari's face clipped into his chest because of the angle, certain hairstyles didn't leave enough room for the ears and so the ears clipped with the hair, etc... None of those things were an issue for BioWare and their supposedly anal attention to clipping...

[Lady Artifice]

Trying to get into my Qunari play through, and I'm as mildly annoyed by the lack of black sclera as I am by the lack of hair.

 

I'm sure this has been well discussed. I just thought I'd mention. 

[HuldraDancer]

Between the lack of hair and the ever decreasing armors for qunari (I think its been maybe two or three armors already that were 'fixed' to no longer allow qunari to wear them anymore in the patches) my desire to play qunari has dropped to none. If qunari are a playable race in the next game I greatly hope those two things are fixed.

[AppalachianApex]

Has Bioware still not even so much as acknowledged this issue?