Oh, and a true hornless option, because this:
...is not hornless! It looks like the horns were sawed off at the scalp!
In most cases of a hornless qunari, they were. This modification is in fact very popular among Tal-Vashoth. (This, by the way, is probably where the bald spots Ryzaki was complaining of came from. Another reason to give any Qunari I roll horns.)
I feel like hair is probably harder than Tattoos but I am not arguing against more hair options, I just think they would have done it if it was easy to do (like Allan said).
Oh, I know. But it adds up. Let's say that a tattoo takes up 25% the resources a hairstyle does. If there are 20 tattoos for the other races, that means there would be 5 other hairstyles available for the Qunari.
Heck I wanted short hair for my Qunquisitors. Something like Cassandra's cropped style with horns. Thing is, I want it to be comparable to the other races.
Hopefully they'll improve the textures before release.
I doubt that'll do anything about the thinness but it'd be something at least.
It'd be great if they could give the buns and braids some fullness. The cornrows and bun would be fine if they didn't feel like there was hardly any hair there let alone enough to put in a bun. That and the cronrows would preferably be ponytailed like Sten's. I'm not sure how that'd break the game. =/
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Merged the thread from Scuttlebutt into this one.
Does the Lore say anything about this? I mean, could that be the reason there are only short hair options? Maybe it's a Tal-Vashoth thing?
Nope tal vashoth in DA2 had long hair actually... Ninja'd 
Exactly I just...
It'd be one thing if the short hair was well done. Then fine I might not like it being short but it looks like hair so I can't complain overmuch.
It doesn't even achieve that tho.
I like short hair and I agree with you totally.
Optics would likely be the biggest issue. Some people would conclude that they were intentionally not put in the game so we could sell them as DLC and what have you.
Considering the delays, I don't think most who preordered would think that. Plus, as it is, many have said that they'll stay away from the Qunari option due to the CC hair options.... I mean...
I want more people to play Qunari so they stay as a playable race in the future, and so that they're given a bit more time next time so hair like this isn't an issue.
That being said, I'm just a player. Take what I say about people think with a grain of salt? (Except for that Qunari hair needs to be of better quality, because it does.)
I am a firm believer of doing more than talking.
If the qunari fans really want new hairstyles, I propose they ask for it as additional content (mostly because at this stage the game is readying launch and adding more content right now would disrupt the schedule that they have).
I am not saying talking about it doesn't help but I would rather an initiative is put fowler to address the lack of variation in qunari hair.
Maybe was it a polygon clipping issue? Could their engine render this hair properly?
Delays suck, but I am 100% thankful for them. If it means the game I get when I go pay full price is complete and not a broken and bug filled piece of crap like most other games that come out these days then I am happy. I would wait another 3 months if I had to. I'm sick to death of getting works in progress. There are "top" developers I refuse to buy their games anymore because of that.
As far as waiting for some hair styles? It's not going to happen either way, but I don't know about that...if they were going to be added it could be later. I don't see it happening at all though.
I am a firm believer of doing more than talking.
If the qunari fans really want new hairstyles, I propose they ask for it as additional content (mostly because at this stage the game is readying launch and adding more content right now would disrupt the schedule that they have).
I am not saying talking about it doesn't help but I would rather an initiative is put fowler to address the lack of variation in qunari hair.
Maybe was it a polygon clipping issue? Could their engine render this hair properly?
We have suggested this. In this thread, and others.
Optics would likely be the biggest issue. Some people would conclude that they were intentionally not put in the game so we could sell them as DLC and what have you.
I'm no industry expert but it seems like that argument could be applied to (and has been applied to) DLC as a whole...
Besides Bioware has released costume packs before. I don't see this as much different.
Oh, I know. But it adds up. Let's say that a tattoo takes up 25% the resources a hairstyle does. If there are 20 tattoos for the other races, that means there would be 5 other hairstyles available for the Qunari.
Hmm but what are the resources that horns take vs hair? We already have several different styles of horns, fitted to both males and females and non of them can be used on other races. It seems like the qunari would end up using up more no matter how you look at it, not that this means they couldn't have done it despite that but it might explain why they didn't. Maybe they just didn't have enough time to do more than they did.
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Delays suck, but I am 100% thankful for them. If it means the game I get when I go pay full price is complete and not a broken and bug filled piece of crap like most other games that come out these days then I am happy. I would wait another 3 months if I had to. I'm sick to death of getting works in progress. There are "top" developers I refuse to buy their games anymore because of that.
As far as waiting for some hair styles? It's not going to happen either way, but I don't know about that...if they were going to be added it could be later. I don't see it happening at all though.
In most cases of a hornless qunari, they were. This modification is in fact very popular among Tal-Vashoth. (This, by the way, is probably where the bald spots Ryzaki was complaining of came from. Another reason to give any Qunari I roll horns.)
No the Tal Vasoth ripped off horns thing is this
there's one a wee bit less and another a wee bit more.
That one I linked isn't sawed off. You see it in the hair version only the blackspots are hidden under the hair.
Hmm but what are the resources that horns take vs hair? We already have several different styles of horns, fitted to both males and females and non of them can be used on other races. It seems like the qunari would end up using up more no matter how you look at it, not that this means they couldn't have done it despite that but it might explain why they didn't. Maybe they just didn't have enough time to do more than they did.
They could use horn styles already developed, and thus no extra work other than adding the new hairstyles.
They could use horn styles already developed, and thus no extra work other than adding the new hairstyles.
Other than modeling the hair around the horns and other stuff they do with animations
They could use horn styles already developed, and thus no extra work other than adding the new hairstyles.
You mean the ones from DA2? I think they pretty much had to do everything from scratch because of the engine.
I'm no industry expert but it seems like that argument could be applied to (and has been applied to) DLC as a whole...
Besides Bioware has released costume packs before. I don't see this as much different.
The argument is applied to DLC as a whole, almost all the time (including our costume packs). You can see it almost anywhere you go where DLC exists.
I'm not necessarily saying it's a good reason (I don't think it is most of the time), but there will be people that rage because they'd be buying something they feel should have been in the game from the start.
No the Tal Vasoth ripped off horns thing is this
*snipped*
there's one a wee bit less and another a wee bit more.
That one I linked isn't sawed off. You see it in the hair version only the blackspots are hidden under the hair.
Wow. Okay. Horn-rows it is.
Horns were not fully/correctly formed at birth. As such, hornless.
I mean, I'm pretty sure qunari models have protrusions where horns go, as shown in that hornless pic.
They would have to redesign all qunari or make a special model for the hornless most people are complaining about. Not worth the effort really.
This is my favorite Qunari concept art:In most cases of a hornless qunari, they were. This modification is in fact very popular among Tal-Vashoth. (This, by the way, is probably where the bald spots Ryzaki was complaining of came from. Another reason to give any Qunari I roll horns.)
They could use horn styles already developed, and thus no extra work other than adding the new hairstyles.
It's also possible that the horns and hair were both allocated from the same bucket of zots. That is, time spent on the hair would've meant less time spent on the horns.
Wow. Okay. Horn-rows it is.
Yeah.
It's a bit sad/hilarious because you can see the love and care that went into the horns...
Then you reach the hair.
It's also possible that the horns and hair were both allocated from the same bucket of zots. That is, time spent on the hair would've meant less time spent on the horns.
But in that case surely you could've given us less horn variations (I mean a lot of them are broken/fixed variations) and more hair?
It didn't have to be so lopsided in favor of one. A more equal amount of hairstyle choices and horn choices would've been fine with me =/
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They could use horn styles already developed, and thus no extra work other than adding the new hairstyles.
It's also possible that the horns and hair were both allocated from the same bucket of zots. That is, time spent on the hair would've meant less time spent on the horns.
That would have been preferable. I would much rather have only 3-4 horn styles and some hair that actually look like hair than 20 horn options on a bald, spraypainted, or blobbed on head.
But in that case surely you could've given us less horn variations (I mean a lot of them are broken/fixed variations) and more hair?
It didn't have to be so lopsided in favor of one. A more equal amount of hairstyle choices and horn choices would've been fine with me =/
They could've though people have been requesting lots of horn variations
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