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[Panda]

I am genuinely surprised people care this much about hair.  I cannot empathize.

 

So you are bald or? Sry just kidding XD

 

Hair is important part of person's look and personality since person tends to even match their haircuts to their personalitys. Like emo hair for example I like short boyish cuts on my own hair. Qunari I associate with white longish hair. I didn't except them to have longer than shoulder cause clipping issues in the games but what they gave us is something I don't accosiate with qunaris at all nor it will fit personalities of my quizzys.

[xyzmkrysvr]

This is wrong of me: I'm fairly convinced that people who say they can't understand why anyone would care about hair, likely have bad hair - or no hair. 

 

Or they're just straight guys  

 

(I don't normally like to generalize, but I've noticed that more women/gay guys care more about their appearance than straight guys... unless that guy leans metrosexual (not that there's anything wrong with that!)) 

[TheDragonOfWhy]

Or they're just straight guys  
 
(I don't normally like to generalize, but I've noticed that more women/gay guys care more about their appearance than straight guys... unless that guy leans metrosexual (not that there's anything wrong with that!))

Excuse me? I'm straight, and a guy, like very much straight guy and no way "metrosexual" (i dont even know what that means) thank you very much and I care a great deal about the hair options on any given character creator.
So don't generalise

[AresKeith]

To be fair, cinematic advertisements for games are freaking BS and need to stop.

 

And taking it as in-game elements also falls on the people

[xyzmkrysvr]

Excuse me? I'm straight, and a guy, like very much straight guy and no way "metrosexual" (i dont even know what that means) thank you very much and I care a great deal about the hair options on any given character creator.
So don't generalise

 

Haha well you're what's called "a special exception".

 

Or, "a unicorn"  

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Or they're just straight guys

 

(I don't normally like to generalize, but I've noticed that more women/gay guys care more about their appearance than straight guys... unless that guy leans metrosexual (not that there's anything wrong with that!)) 

This tangent should stop right now. 

[Panda]

People might care about in-game hair options alot but not hair in IRL.

 

Anyways hair just is very important part of characters looks and personality so it matters.

[TheDragonOfWhy]

Haha well you're what's called "a special exception".

Or, "a unicorn"

So I am now the national animal of my people?
Great, I'll start goring people who disagree with me.

As for why people care for hair: chiefly it's noticable. It's one of the most noticable things about a toon, and you look upon your toon for a very long time in bioware games. And like I've said before, throw in the inability to hide bad hair/head choices via hats or helms.... It does not make for good design.

[Ryzaki]

...People saying who cares about hair. 

 

There's a multi billion dollar industry around hair I mean...wat.

[Roofie]

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Okay so I've seen a few people in this thread saying they don't really understand how hair (or lack of it) can cause so much vitriol, and disappointment. I thought I'd try my hand at explaining it a little via my various PCs... and see if I can make it any clearer behind the spoiler. I don't know if anyone will see what I see when I look at my chars... but maybe just the stark difference in outward appearance in comparison will have some effect.

 

Spoiler

This is Glory. She is a bloodmage. She's straight forward, analytical, selfish... very powerful and kind of ignorant.

 

 

This is Glory with the the closest thing I have to the Qunari 'mohawk'/bald.

 

 

She looks like a gormless ******.

 

This is Breia. A warrior. Brutal, impatient, foul, filthy... kind of murdery... very 'butch' I suppose, but still a woman. A stern, quick-to-anger woman.

 

 

This is Breia bald/with the 'mohawk'.

 

 

For one, she could almost be mistaken for a man. She still seems harsh, but now any femininity she may have had has left the building.

 

Eris, another mage, proud, proper, vain... depressed. Slipped into the high-society of Kirkwall like they deserved her.

 

 

Here she is with the terrible hair Qunari are being expected to exist with.

 

 

Here we have another gormless ******.

 

And finally, my rogue Rue. Sleek, sarcastic, sly? Many other s-words. She'd stick a knife in you, then tell a joke about it while you bled to death. But she's also soft with those she trusts, and damn loyal.

 

 

This is her with... well y'know.

 

 

Any softness, slyness, or humor is gone.

 

Hair makes a huge difference in who a person presents to be. Hair affects how we see people, and how we see ourselves. The Qunari hairstyles we have been given restricts the kind of people I feel I can believably make... and the amount of freedom I often feel I actually have in RPGs. It's a problem. A sad, and limiting problem.

[xyzmkrysvr]

Ok, so this pisses me off:

 

I stumbled upon this photo of Blackwall from DA:I's official website. 

 

LOOK AT HIS HELMET!

 

It looks like it has a horse tail sticking out from the back of it...

 

How does *that* not present clipping issues with any armors???

 

If you can create a helmet like that in the game, you should easily be able to give female qunari's a high ponytail that looks exactly like that. I mean, how freaking cool would that look with white hair and a little more texture?!? Gah :'( 

 

[Lady_Intimidator]

Hair is an important part of Character customization to a massive number of RPG games. To prove this, let me pop over to Nexus and get some numbers,

 

Hair Mods by Game:

 

Dragon Age: Origins: 29

Dragon Age 2: 23

Mass Effect 3: 8

Morrowind: 15

Oblivion: 71

Skyrim 68

Fallout 3: 32

Fallout New Vegas: 19

 

Numbers as seen on Nexus, numbers reflect the following Search method. 

Search > Hair > Category > Hair and Face. 

 

Simply searching "hair" comes up with a lot of texture fixes and other assorted results, I wanted to try and show number of hair style mods. But Nexus search isnt perfect, and neither am I. So the numbers may vary. 

 

That said. The numbers are simply available hair mods. If you start looking at the numbers of downloads on the top three hair mods for each game, its insane. 

 

Example: The top three [when sorted by Most Endorsed] Hair mods on Nexus, for Fallout 3 have a [unique] download count of 

1: 547,997

2: 288,159

3: 216,046

 

Now.  you might cry out

 "But Fallout 3 isnt even a Bioware game, and Fo3 has been out since 2008. So maybe using its numbers as example isnt really fair!"

And thats true, and I originally was going to use DA:O as an example, but a alot of the hair mods on the nexus are for companions so using those numbers wouldnt be relevant..

 

Onward.

 

The point I'm trying to make is that as silly as it seems, Hair is important to players when it comes to customizing their character. Rather they are playing a long haired, thick bearded Gandoff the Grey like mage character, or the Beautiful noble woman with hair the shade of fire. Or the grizzled warrior. 

 

Hair style can be used as a way to showcase or hint at a characters personality, their history. Who or what they are.  Hair [and beards] can be used to create a character that is different from the characters that came before it.

 

And four options paired with a dozen horn styles doesnt give players a way to make that unique character, to craft a story that is different from another. 

 

The ability to craft our character, to send them into a world and have them influence that world, to build them up differently is part of what draws all of us to RPGS. And Character Creation, how our character looks is as important as what armor they are wearing. -- I know there are players that will stick to a crappy set of armor just because they like the looks of it.

 

So maybe you dont understand why its so many people care about having a good selection of hair styles [and beard styles] maybe its not a important to you, But I hope maybe this helps enlighten those of you who think its less important then any other choice we make in the creation process of our character.

[Lady Luminous]

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Okay so I've seen a few people in this thread saying they don't really understand how hair (or lack of it) can cause so much vitriol, and disappointment. I thought I'd try my hand at explaining it a little via my various PCs... and see if I can make it any clearer behind the spoiler. I don't know if anyone will see what I see when I look at my chars... but maybe just the stark difference in outward appearance in comparison will have some effect.

 

Spoiler

This is Glory. She is a bloodmage. She's straight forward, analytical, selfish... very powerful and kind of ignorant.

 

 

This is Glory with the the closest thing I have to the Qunari 'mohawk'/bald.

 

 

She looks like a gormless ******.

 

This is Breia. A warrior. Brutal, impatient, foul, filthy... kind of murdery... very 'butch' I suppose, but still a woman. A stern, quick-to-anger woman.

 

 

This is Breia bald/with the 'mohawk'.

 

 

For one, she could almost be mistaken for a man. She still seems harsh, but now any femininity she may have had has left the building.

 

Eris, another mage, proud, proper, vain... depressed. Slipped into the high-society of Kirkwall like they deserved her.

 

 

Here she is with the terrible hair Qunari are being expected to exist with.

 

 

Here we have another gormless ******.

 

And finally, my rogue Rue. Sleek, sarcastic, sly? Many other s-words. She'd stick a knife in you, then tell a joke about it while you bled to death. But she's also soft with those she trusts, and damn loyal.

 

 

This is her with... well y'know.

 

 

Any softness, slyness, or humor is gone.

 

Hair makes a huge difference in who a person presents to be. Hair affects how we see people, and how we see ourselves. The Qunari hairstyles we have been given restricts the kind of people I feel I can believably make... and the amount of freedom I often feel I actually have in RPGs. It's a problem. A sad, and limiting problem.

 

It really is such a huge difference. I had Acantha all figured out, but just looking at the CC possibiilites... I can still make her feminine and striking, but she can't be the soft, flirty kind of rogue I had planned. 

 

The soft flirty rogue is going to have to be my Edytha or Eavan. Long blonde hair, soft pouty lips, but she'd stab you while she was kissing you if it would get her a pretty trinket or a bag of gold.  

[SofaJockey]

To be fair, cinematic advertisements for games are freaking BS and need to stop.

 

And I'm pleased (despite BSN calls for them) BioWare have made 'in-game' trailers now the technology permits it.

 

And I found this interesting video on trailers and reality

(On Topic as it has BioWare clips, though BioWare is not the main target)

 

[Roofie]

*snip*

 

Though the subject of the fidelity of trailers to game delivery is very interesting, it's also getting pretty off topic. It is beginning to have no place in this discussion now.

[AresKeith]

[Roofie]

*snip*

 

Awesome outfit. Terrible hair.

[xyzmkrysvr]

*snip*

 

I'm sure it seems like I'm always complaining, but Vitaar looks kind of dumb... I remember seeing that chin stuff during the Redcliffe clip and thinking it looked like Qunari acne. In this photo, it looks like she's a messy eater and food crumbs are dribbling down her face

 

Hopefully there are some cool looking Vitaar...! 

 

Edit: On a positive note, that outfit is badass!!! 

[Lady Luminous]

I'm sure it seems like I'm always complaining, but Vitaar looks kind of dumb... I remember seeing that chin stuff during the Redcliffe clip and thinking it looked like Qunari acne. In this photo, it looks like she's a messy eater and food crumbs are dribbling down her face

 

Hopefully there are some cool looking Vitaar...! 

 

Edit: On a positive note, that outfit is badass!!! 

 

Oh my god, I've been trying to figure out why their chins seem plated! That's Vitaar? Hm... hours in CC choosing markings ...here I come. 

[xyzmkrysvr]

Oh my god, I've been trying to figure out why their chins seem plated! That's Vitaar? Hm... hours in CC choosing markings ...here I come. 

 

Yeah, that's Vitaar, but it doesn't work the way you're thinking:

 

You presumably find/craft Vitaar during gameplay, much like you'd find/craft helmets for your other companions. Vitaar takes up the helmet slot for the Qunari. As far as I'm aware, you can only "choose" markings if you have that specific Vitaar in your inventory... I could be wrong though