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[In Exile]

Seems like there are going to be a lot of screenshots of qunari with mohawks. Which means there will be a lot of hawked qunair with 1 of the three full horn choices, since the other three include hornless and broken horns. Talk about diversity! 

 

Edit: I kind of want to stop calling the hornless option "hornless" and instead call it "blotches." 

 

At least the faces will look different? Bleh. It's pretty bad. I prefer more conventionally attractive protagonists, but with the qunari that's looking pretty difficult. 

[pdusen]

Here's an update on the opinion poll: 311 folks have responded. Seems like the majority of respondents do not like any of the styles.

http://poll.pollcode...982828_result?v

Interesting.

Regardless of the topic, a sample size of 300 just isn't statistically significant.

[CENIC]

I'm hoping against hope there will be a complexion option that doesn't have the dark patches on the scalp if you choose not to have horns.

[In Exile]

As do I. I know I'll fiddle with one in the CC, but I can see myself getting pretty frustrated with the "options" for the top of the head. Honestly, I would be fine making a bald female qunari if she could have no blotches. I'll screw with the skin tone to see if it covers them, but they look like they protrude a little which is annoying....

 

Regardless, I'd be settling for a protag that doesn't look anything like what I had in mind. And she can't even romance the people I want to romance, but that's not a huge deal I guess. 

 

Question: Can we put makeup on qunari, male or female?

 

I think we would be able to do make-up on the female, at least. I can't see why they'd restrict that option. And to be honest, I wouldn't be so aggravated with the meagre hairstyle if, for example, the horn selection was impressive. But it's not. 

[Lady Luminous]

I think we would be able to do make-up on the female, at least. I can't see why they'd restrict that option. And to be honest, I wouldn't be so aggravated with the meagre hairstyle if, for example, the horn selection was impressive. But it's not. 

 

I actually think the horns are quite lovely. I can find a number that I'd be pleased with wearing.

[In Exile]

I actually think the horns are quite lovely. I can find a number that I'd be pleased with wearing.

 

I like the horns, don't get me wrong. I think they're good. I just mean I'd be more OK with bad hair if we had more good horn options. 

 

Yeah. My gripe is that the selection isn't open. There is a selection within the selection - that's bullcrap.

 

Exactly. I agree. 

[Tayah]

As do I. I know I'll fiddle with one in the CC, but I can see myself getting pretty frustrated with the "options" for the top of the head. Honestly, I would be fine making a bald female qunari if she could have no blotches. I'll screw with the skin tone to see if it covers them, but they look like they protrude a little which is annoying....

 

Regardless, I'd be settling for a protag that doesn't look anything like what I had in mind. And she can't even romance the people I want to romance, but that's not a huge deal I guess. 

 

Question: Can we put makeup on qunari, male or female?

I know you can put makeup on female qunari and as you can put it on the males of every other race I would guess you can put it on males too... Mike seems to say so around the 22 minute mark of the live twitch cc demo (page 80 of this thread) but he's rattling off a lot of information so it's hard to be completely sure.

 

As the blotches are black/dark the jet skintone is likely going to be the telling one on whether you can get what you want or not in terms of hiding them. 

 

And yeah, selection within selection is totally going make it hard to match horns and hair, if the horn styles I like aren't the ones that match the most tolerable hairstyle for me that makes it...   for me.

[-Stacey-07-]

I'm gonna go out on a hopeful limb here... but maybe... just MAYBE the video showing "all" of the qunari hairstyles was just a demo version, not showing us all the options that are really available in the full game? I mean, would they REALLY show us all of our options for qunari hair already? And about the tweet by Mr. Gaider saying that the hairstyles are locked... he could just be being sneaky and saying that yes; the hairstyles we SHOWED YOU are locked in...... **but we didnt show you all of them hehehehehe.... bumsies!! wink wink** idk.... just throwing that out there for debate

[Eri]

I'm gonna go out on a hopeful limb here... but maybe... just MAYBE the video showing "all" of the qunari hairstyles was just a demo version, not showing us all the options that are really available in the full game? I mean, would they REALLY show us all of our options for qunari hair already? And about the tweet by Mr. Gaider saying that the hairstyles are locked... he could just be being sneaky and saying that yes; the hairstyles we SHOWED YOU are locked in...... **but we didnt show you all of them hehehehehe.... bumsies!! wink wink** idk.... just throwing that out there for debate

There is a possibility, but I think it's highly unlikely - why would they confirm there is only four hairstyles just to have a joke when it then means anything they 'officially' say could be similarly taken with a pinch of salt? I don't think they'd make such an obviously bad move and deliberately raise people's ire when the alternative is placating people and avoiding the creation of threads like this (plus tweets, etc) entirely.

[Tayah]

I'd have to agree with Eri plus they've confirmed this was a recent build and they showed the sliders going all the way along the bar so I think by locked he meant that's it... Cam also said they were aware of our concerns and might do something past release. They may polish the textures between now and release but that would be the most they could do in the time left.

 

There are a few things they've mentioned that they're still looking into for perhaps a patch post release including the face melter as Mike called it (A mirror of transformation like the one in the black emporium to others) so hopefully they could add a few extra hairs/fix current ones then.

[KoorahUK]

There is a possibility, but I think it's highly unlikely - why would they confirm there is only four hairstyles just to have a joke when it then means anything they 'officially' say could be similarly taken with a pinch of salt? I don't think they'd make such an obviously bad move and deliberately raise people's ire when the alternative is placating people and avoiding the creation of threads like this (plus tweets, etc) entirely.

Yes agree with this. No matter what anybody who isn't working for BioWare thinks about how easy or hard making longer hair Qunari options is, BioWare seem to have made design choices that preclude it becasue reasons. 

 

When they are highlighting the diversity available in the CC, saying "this is it" when that is not the case just makes no sense.

The only explanation for this would be if they were still working on longer hair but had significant technical issues to resolve - so significant that there was a strong possibility that they may never solve them to their satisfaction. In that case I could imagine that they wouldn't say anything so as not to raise expectation and invite the inevitable"BioWare LIED TO US!" knee jerk.

This close to release though, I think that is woefully optimistic.
 

[Eri]

Some more potential hairstyle ideas. Loving the one in the second pic!

 

http://kyuubifred.de...about-469510016

[Panda]

I'm gonna go out on a hopeful limb here... but maybe... just MAYBE the video showing "all" of the qunari hairstyles was just a demo version, not showing us all the options that are really available in the full game? I mean, would they REALLY show us all of our options for qunari hair already? And about the tweet by Mr. Gaider saying that the hairstyles are locked... he could just be being sneaky and saying that yes; the hairstyles we SHOWED YOU are locked in...... **but we didnt show you all of them hehehehehe.... bumsies!! wink wink** idk.... just throwing that out there for debate

 

There is this though:

 

 

I doubt there is more :<

[-Stacey-07-]

There is this though:  I doubt there is more :<

Poo. Ah well i'll look at it this way... i will probably end up loving my qunquizzy anyway and will forgive her for having bad hair in the end lol. AAAND of course there's the option of human and elf if i want her to look pretteh... and which i end up playing 90% of the time anyway! B-) waaay too excited about this game to let bad hair ruin it ;-) Bioware, I love you!!

[PrayingMantis]

I think it's so rude to make a whole twitter movement out of this issue. I understand you guys are disappointed, I mean, I am too.

The devs did not exclude so many options, just because they didn't care or didn't have any ideas, though. From all the races the qunari had been added last, have they not? They did not include them from the start, because of lack of time. Lack. Of . Time. They won't get more time from our whining and constant bitching about every single issue that did not live up to our expectation. They're not machines that spit out 3d modelled hair that is working with no clipping-issues, they're people who try to get a game released until the deadline.

It's super easy to draw hair, now go and do that in 3d and with no clipping. They don't lack creativity for gods sake, they lack time.

I am glad they included the qunari at all. If someone won't play a qunari just because of the hairstyles, well, that is their bad. Personally, I find that reason to be ridicilous, you can play awesome-looking bald characters as well.

 

BioWare has been working really close to their fanbase and they have been listening to us. Most of the companies don't even do that, so why are people so entitled and goddamn rude right now? The devs are human beings, so show some empathy for once.

 

Most games get patches after their release anyways, or some DLC with more options. They saw us being disappointed, I bet they're considering doing something about the hair after the release. Nagging them the whole time on twitter and whining about it, or telling them you cancel your preorder, though? That's insolent, disrespectful and egoistical.

 

There are so many positive things in the CC, but I see most just want to focus on the negative things. //sighhh

[Lady Luminous]

I think it's so rude to make a whole twitter movement out of this issue. I understand you guys are disappointed, I mean, I am too.

The devs did not exclude so many options, just because they didn't care or didn't have any ideas, though. From all the races the qunari had been added last, have they not? They did not include them from the start, because of lack of time. Lack. Of . Time. They won't get more time from our whining and constant bitching about every single issue that did not live up to our expectation. They're not machines that spit out 3d modelled hair that is working with no clipping-issues, they're people who try to get a game released until the deadline.

It's super easy to draw hair, now go and do that in 3d and with no clipping. They don't lack creativity for gods sake, they lack time.

I am glad they included the qunari at all. If someone won't play a qunari just because of the hairstyles, well, that is their bad. Personally, I find that reason to be ridicilous, you can play awesome-looking bald characters as well.

 

BioWare has been working really close to their fanbase and they have been listening to us. Most of the companies don't even do that, so why are people so entitled and goddamn rude right now? The devs are human beings, so show some empathy for once.

 

Most games get patches after their release anyways, or some DLC with more options. They saw us being disappointed, I bet they're considering doing something about the hair after the release. Nagging them the whole time on twitter and whining about it, or telling them you cancel your preorder, though? That's insolent, disrespectful and egoistical.

 

There are so many positive things in the CC, but I see most just want to focus on the negative things. //sighhh

 

If you've read through the whole thread, I think you'll see that many of us are trying to be positive and encouraging, and have been as respectful as possible. 

 

But that being said, the quality of the hair choices we did receive are just not up to the standard set by the other 3 races.

 

Which is my main complaint of the whole issue, and if the quality were there there would be so many fewer complaints. 

[xyzmkrysvr]

I think it's so rude to make a whole twitter movement out of this issue.  I understand you guys are disappointed, I mean, I am too.

The devs did not exclude so many options, just because they didn't care or didn't have any ideas, though. From all the races the qunari had been added last, have they not? They did not include them from the start, because of lack of time. Lack. Of . Time. They won't get more time from our whining and constant bitching about every single issue that did not live up to our expectation. They're not machines that spit out 3d modelled hair that is working with no clipping-issues, they're people who try to get a game released until the deadline.

It's super easy to draw hair, now go and do that in 3d and with no clipping. They don't lack creativity for gods sake, they lack time.

I am glad they included the qunari at all. If someone won't play a qunari just because of the hairstyles, well, that is their bad. Personally, I find that reason to be ridicilous, you can play awesome-looking bald characters as well.

 

BioWare has been working really close to their fanbase and they have been listening to us. Most of the companies don't even do that, so why are people so entitled and goddamn rude right now? The devs are human beings, so show some empathy for once.

 

Most games get patches after their release anyways, or some DLC with more options. They saw us being disappointed, I bet they're considering doing something about the hair after the release. Nagging them the whole time on twitter and whining about it, or telling them you cancel your preorder, though? That's insolent, disrespectful and egoistical.

 

There are so many positive things in the CC, but I see most just want to focus on the negative things. //sighhh

 

Don't try to fed me that qunaricrap about them not having enough time. They got the game delayed an entire YEAR and part of the reason they did that was so they could add qunari as a playable race. Sure, they were working on a lot of other stuff during that time, too, but don't try to excuse their pathetic hair options by saying they just didn't have enough time. 

 

No one is going to fall for that. 

They made a very BIZARRE decision to 1) not allow the hair/horns to be selected separately, 2) not give us a TRUE hornless option (a smooth, bald head without necrotic horn craters), 3) not let hornless qunari have access to the other hairstyles - which would have posed NO clipping issues because they are HORNLESS.

 

So don't come in here and say we're rude for voicing our opinions/concerns. They're entirely legitimate and we have every right to express how we feel. Most of us are just disappointed because we really wanted to play qunari, but we were misled by all of the concept art depicting long hair. Three short, ugly hairstyles is not acceptable when compared to the awesome hairstyles the other races get. Period.

[Noviere]

The likelihood of me playing a qunari are pretty much non-existent now. Hopefully they patch more options in(seems unlikely), or that somehow players figure out how to mod it in(also unlikely). 

[Keroko]

Most games get patches after their release anyways, or some DLC with more options. They saw us being disappointed, I bet they're considering doing something about the hair after the release. Nagging them the whole time on twitter and whining about it, or telling them you cancel your preorder, though? That's insolent, disrespectful and egoistical.

DLC is actually the main reason people are speaking up about it now. Yes, some people are blowing it out of proportion with (historically empty) threats of cancelled preorders, but the only reason devs would add additional hairstyles is if the devs know there is sufficient interest for them. The only way for devs to know there is sufficient interest for them is to talk about it, and keep talking about it.

[Roofie]

I think it's so rude to make a whole twitter movement out of this issue. I understand you guys are disappointed, I mean, I am too.

The devs did not exclude so many options, just because they didn't care or didn't have any ideas, though. From all the races the qunari had been added last, have they not? They did not include them from the start, because of lack of time. Lack. Of . Time. They won't get more time from our whining and constant bitching about every single issue that did not live up to our expectation. They're not machines that spit out 3d modelled hair that is working with no clipping-issues, they're people who try to get a game released until the deadline.

It's super easy to draw hair, now go and do that in 3d and with no clipping. They don't lack creativity for gods sake, they lack time.

I am glad they included the qunari at all. If someone won't play a qunari just because of the hairstyles, well, that is their bad. Personally, I find that reason to be ridicilous, you can play awesome-looking bald characters as well.

 

BioWare has been working really close to their fanbase and they have been listening to us. Most of the companies don't even do that, so why are people so entitled and goddamn rude right now? The devs are human beings, so show some empathy for once.

 

Most games get patches after their release anyways, or some DLC with more options. They saw us being disappointed, I bet they're considering doing something about the hair after the release. Nagging them the whole time on twitter and whining about it, or telling them you cancel your preorder, though? That's insolent, disrespectful and egoistical.

 

There are so many positive things in the CC, but I see most just want to focus on the negative things. //sighhh

 

I'd call it rude if people were being rude, if people were making demands rather than expressing their disappointment, or making their hopes visible somewhere other than... well here. No one has been insulting on twitter, as far as I can see, and other than expressing their enthusiasm for this game to meet their expectations they haven't done a single thing wrong by moving onto Twitter where they feel they can be more heard.

 

I think it's rude that you came onto this thread and called us insolent, disrespectful and egotistical. I find it rude how you have made several misinformed assumptions about how we have conducted ourselves on this forum, and about what we have asked for. A ridiculously minor number of people have spat enough feathers to make the words 'cancel pre-order' coherent - and that was over 70 pages ago. The rest of us have been respectful, positive, excited about the game, and enthusiastic about almost every aspect of it we have been permitted to see. We love the CC, we adore the horns, we're so happy Qunari are a race (as someone who has wanted to play a Qunari since DA:O I cannot express how happy I am that they are in the game)! We've enthused here about how brilliant everything else looks. The only thing we are giving negative feedback on is the hair, the lack of quality, the lack of options... the fact they're tied to horns making the actual choices people can make even fewer.

 

With regards to 'lack of time', if any devs had come out and said that themselves maybe your argument would hold some weight. Outside of that everything regarding why our options are what they are is total speculation, as well as patronising on your part in your attitude towards us and Bioware. A majority of the people in this thread have not asked for the game to be delayed further, very few people in this thread have asked for changes to be made before release. Most of this thread has been made up of people suggesting possible DLCs and patches to come post-release that many of us are happy to pay for - meaning we don't even expect results for free.

 

There have been several pages in this thread where the effort put into making hair meshes/textures/shaders has been discussed. None of us assume it's easy, none of us assume it takes 10 minutes. The 2D pictures posted from us are suggestions - IN A SUGGESTION THREAD - for possible styles Bioware could try if they take us up on our hopes.

 

To be quite honest, up until this very moment, this thread has been a rather pleasant and interesting place to be - and I hope it goes back to being such very quickly.

[Lady Luminous]

I'd call it rude if people were being rude, if people were making demands rather than expressing their disappointment, or making their hopes visible somewhere other than... well here. No one has been insulting on twitter, as far as I can see, and other than expressing their enthusiasm for this game to meet their expectations they haven't done a single thing wrong by moving onto Twitter where they feel they can be more heard.

 

I think it's rude that you came onto this thread and call us insolent, disrespectful and egotistical. I find it rude how you have made several misinformed assumptions about how we have conducted ourselves on this forum, and about what we have asked for. A ridiculously minor number of people have spat enough feathers to make the words 'cancel pre-order' coherent - and that was over 70 pages ago. The rest of us have been respectful, positive, excited about the game, and enthusiastic about almost every aspect of it we have been permitted to see. We love the CC, we adore the horns, we're so happy Qunari are a race (as someone who has wanted to play a Qunari since DA:O I cannot express how happy I am that they are in the game)! We've enthused here about how brilliant everything else looks. The only thing we are giving negative feedback on is the hair, the lack of quality, the lack of options... the fact they're tied to horns making the actual choices people can make even fewer.

 

With regards to 'lack of time', if any devs had come out and said that themselves maybe your argument would hold some weight. Outside of that everything regarding why our options are what they are is total speculation, as well as patronising on your part in your attitude towards us and Bioware. A majority of the people in this thread have not asked for the game to be delayed further, very few people in this thread have asked for changes to be made before release. Most of this thread has been made up of people suggesting possible DLCs and patches to come post-release that many of us are even happy to pay for - meaning we don't even expect results for free.

 

There have been several pages in this thread where the effort put into making hair meshes/textures/shaders has been discussed. None of us assume it's easy, none of us assume it takes 10 minutees. The 2D pictures posted from us are suggestions - IN A SUGGESTION THREAD - for possible styles Bioware could try if they take us up on our hopes.

 

To be quite honest, up until this very moment, this thread has been a rather pleasant and interesting place to be - and I hope it goes back to being such very quickly.

 

I'm out of likes.

[-Stacey-07-]

I know that at some point i am still gonna play a qunari. Its a new playable race; HELL yes!! I thank bioware for at least putting them in ♡ i can get past the hair for one playthrough, you know? It's not so bad. Makes em look tougher and not so fluffy.