I find that making a good looking face that isn't based heavily on a preset generally requires a fair amount of knowledge about facial ratios, the kind of thing that only artists tend to know.
I generally pick a real person to model it from, and use reference pictures.
Yeah my guys always end up looking mildly like the penguin.
I have no clue why.
I think I have facial instincts... I'm no artist and my PCs rarely look like the presets (although my first ever playthrough I accidently created Anora's twin) but they always look really nice.
And... I'm humble-bragging. Just ignore me over here.
That may be. It could also be that you have lower standards than me, because I'm a somewhat obsessive perfectionist. I'd have to see some examples to tell 
That may be. It could also be that you have lower standards than me, because I'm a somewhat obsessive perfectionist. I'd have to see some examples to tell
Uhm, how do I... import? Screenshot? Explain the process.
Yeah my guys always end up looking mildly like the penguin.
I have no clue why.
Yeah my guys always end up looking mildly like the penguin.
I have no clue why.
*backs away slowly*
I wasn't really being that serious, but if you want then a screenshot or two might be interesting to see.Uhm, how do I... import? Screenshot? Explain the process.
I wasn't really being that serious, but if you want then a screenshot or two might be interesting to see.
I will... attempt to make this possible. Give me a minute. 
Edit: Nope, I'm useless. When we get DA:I I'll make sure to actually link my player characters to my origins and take screenshots.
Regardless of the topic, a sample size of 300 just isn't statistically significant.
I guess no one should ever use a focus group then.
They're not machines that spit out 3d modelled hair that is working with no clipping-issues, they're people who try to get a game released until the deadline.
It's super easy to draw hair, now go and do that in 3d and with no clipping. They don't lack creativity for gods sake, they lack time.
I am glad they included the qunari at all. If someone won't play a qunari just because of the hairstyles, well, that is their bad. Personally, I find that reason to be ridicilous, you can play awesome-looking bald characters as well.
If you actually take the time to look at those 3d drawings, you'd see that 90% are short or pulled back and would need little to no movement animations and would not clip. Even a shaved head instead of waxed bald would be a hundred times more appealing to me and require no modeling or animation, and would not clip with anything. Just a texture applied to the head. 
It's not just the ugly and unfashionable style choice that's the problem. (though they could have made stylish or cool hair of the same length and coverage as the existing ugly hair) My main problem is the lack of volume, depth, or texture in the existing hairstyles that originally gave me the impression that they were imported from a 10 year old game until I realized 10 year old games made an effort in the texture department. I'll post this again, BioWare's KotOR 2004 and DA:I 2014
Look at the texture and modeling of the Qunari hair and then look at the texture and modeling of the other race's hair. The other races hair looks like a lot of work went in, it looks great. The Qunari hair looks like someone accidentally used resources from Morrowind.
*backs away slowly*
Oh screw you guys 
I CAN'T HELP IT.
Look at the texture and modeling of the Qunari hair and then look at the texture and modeling of the other race's hair. The other races hair looks like a lot of work went in, it looks great. The Qunari hair looks like someone accidentally used resources from Morrowind.
Wow that's harsh... but it's true. In some angles the textures look little better like straight from the back.. still top of head the hair is just so flat and looks like spray paint 
I feel like they did qunari hairs in rush.
Oh screw you guys
I CAN'T HELP IT.
So you secretly love the Penguin
For me, it's all about the quality. Take a look at this elven beauty (who wears her hair in a bun):
See the fading around the hairline, the volume, the texture (complete with natural lowlights)? Now, compare:
None of that. None.
EDIT: As for the style I was *hoping* for, here it is.
Look long to you folks?
Modifié par Lieutenant Kurin, 07 octobre 2014 - 05:02 .
Yeah my guys always end up looking mildly like the penguin.
I have no clue why.
Penguin?
Or like the birds XD
Penguin?
Or like the birds XD
Yeah that guy. It's not an exact match of course but close enough that I side eye myself.
So you secretly love the Penguin
D: but I don't!
EDIT: As for the style I was *hoping* for, here it is.
Look long to you folks?
I could go for that style. I like pixie cuts on women.
For my character I would ideally like something a little longer though, like a ponytail or wolftail.
I guess no one should ever use a focus group then.
If you actually take the time to look at those 3d drawings, you'd see that 90% are short or pulled back and would need little to no movement animations and would not clip. Even a shaved head instead of waxed bald would be a hundred times more appealing to me and require no modeling or animation, and would not clip with anything. Just a texture applied to the head.
It's not just the ugly and unfashionable style choice that's the problem. (though they could have made stylish or cool hair of the same length and coverage as the existing ugly hair) My main problem is the lack of volume, depth, or texture in the existing hairstyles that originally gave me the impression that they were imported from a 10 year old game until I realized 10 year old games made an effort in the texture department. I'll post this again, BioWare's KotOR 2004 and DA:I 2014
Look at the texture and modeling of the Qunari hair and then look at the texture and modeling of the other race's hair. The other races hair looks like a lot of work went in, it looks great. The Qunari hair looks like someone accidentally used resources from Morrowind.
It just looks like the textures haven't loaded. I don't think Frosbite 3 can render something that looks that bad.
I could go for that style. I like pixie cuts on women.
For my character I would ideally like something a little longer though, like a ponytail or wolftail.
Ponytail is what I was hoping for my qunari female. I like pixie cuts on myself and my other characters but I have always seen qunaris having longish hair so I can't imagine them in pixie cuts
But you do
It just looks like the textures haven't loaded. I don't think Frosbite 3 can render something that looks that bad.
I'm really hoping that's the case.
That ponytail still looks a bit flat tho =/ oh well.
It just looks like the textures haven't loaded. I don't think Frosbite 3 can render something that looks that bad.
I agree. I don't think they'll look like that for the games we'll actually get to play.
I agree. I don't think they'll look like that for the games we'll actually get to play.
I seriously hope that current styles look better in the game. I doubt they will be less flat though ^^;
It just looks like the textures haven't loaded. I don't think Frosbite 3 can render something that looks that bad.
I want to believe that but I can't at this point. There were things about DA2 and ME3 that I had reservations about before they were released but I thought "it's just ____ the real game won't be like that." Lol I was wrong.
I like reading this thread to help vent my disappointment about this, but I don't think there will be a patch or DLC post release and there definitely won't be anything before release. The male Qunari has thicker horns that would look much better with a bald head plus a bald man is more appealing to me than a bald woman so maybe I'll play male instead of writing the whole race off.
Ha, same. It took forever for me to get used to Aveline's hair. The first time I saw it I thought it looked ridiculous, way too bright orange and very solid, as if it was made of plastic. It's not a good sign I have the same reaction every time I see hair in DAI.
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For me, it's all about the quality. Take a look at this elven beauty (who wears her hair in a bun):
See the fading around the hairline, the volume, the texture (complete with natural lowlights)? Now, compare:
EDIT: As for the style I was *hoping* for, here it is.
Look long to you folks?
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