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Why do the elves draw so much negativity?

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... some people who played as pro templar act as if pro mages are naive and some even thinking Meredith or Alrik had the right idea (atleast, I think I can recall it from some time ago). They sympathise with those they support, and takes on aspects.

I guess, in a ironic way, we elvhen supporters do the same. We have a secluded group, which (it feels like atleast) is a tight knit group, who spend our time talking about the awesomeness that are the elves. Does sound a bit familiar, yes? :-)

Or, I am just assuming alot...tis atleast a theory

 

It makes sense for people who like certain parts of fiction to gather to talk about it than others (like people who like mages more than Templars), and for people who like certain parts of the fiction to dislike, look down on, or feel indifferent to others (like elf fans being less fond of human nobles and vice-versa).

 

The problem is excessive negativity, aggression, and harrassment. We didn't make a secluded elven group because we wanted to segregrate ourselves from non-elf fans, we were kind of driven here because it's not safe to talk about elves in the general forums, because of excessive trolling, derailing, and Dalish/elven bashing.

 

I can understand fans of humans and Templars and whatnot liking elves less because the two are diametrically opposed in terms of physical build, in-game cultures and values, roleplay fantasy type (*cough*sociallyprivilegedpowerversustrueunderdogs*cough*), etc. I just don't understand for the need for players who like one aspect of the game to go out of their way to seek out and harass fans of another aspect of the game even though they aren't stalking or trolling them.



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I assume it's the same reason for any troll to see out and troll people for any reason.



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I assume it's the same reason for any troll to see out and troll people for any reason.

 

Yeah, but it seems to happen most often to elf fans from... whatever, elf-haters. Last I checked, the dwarf threads weren't all being systematically sought out, overrun with and locked down due to excessive derailing.



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Which I happen to love since dwarves are my favorite race since childhood while watching The Hobbit animated movie. 



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People need a new hobby. For real

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I imagine dwarves are spared the trolling and bashing because dwarves and humans are not really at odds in the game. There's a surprising amount of human supremacists on the forum, and dwarves are non threatening.



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Yeah, but it seems to happen most often to elf fans from... whatever, elf-haters. Last I checked, the dwarf threads weren't all being systematically sought out, overrun with and locked down due to excessive derailing.

 

Dwarves probably aren't mainstream enough to troll.   :rolleyes:



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I imagine dwarves are spared the trolling and bashing because dwarves and humans are not really at odds in the game. There's a surprising amount of human supremacists on the forum, and dwarves are non threatening.

 

That, or the dwarves are the only ones in the lore who can supply the human supremacists with lyrium as they are the only ones in the entire game universe who can relatively safely mine it because of their natural resistance to it. 



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Dwarves probably aren't mainstream enough to troll.   :rolleyes:

that and somebody could take offence to "dwarf bashing" and then their troll game is up

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that and somebody could take offence to "dwarf bashing" and then their troll game is up

 

But really, what is there to say? "Tradition is bad, look at how they treat the casteless!"

 

No one would disagree there, even dwarf lovers hate that. 

 

"They are idiots for not accepting outsider help!"

 

Umm....most outsiders tend to forget that there even is a darkspawn problem when it isn't a blight, and don't offer any....

 

There's not exactly a lot of room for the trolls to effectively troll dwarves that would annoy dwarf supporters because the big issues are things everyone agrees on. 



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Man mages dont get this much hate its really madness on the bsn. I often wonder if x users are extreme by nature or because it the internet

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But really, what is there to say? "Tradition is bad, look at how they treat the casteless!"

 

No one would disagree there, even dwarf lovers hate that. 

 

"They are idiots for not accepting outsider help!"

 

Umm....most outsiders tend to forget that there even is a darkspawn problem when it isn't a blight, and don't offer any....

 

There's not exactly a lot of room for the trolls to effectively troll dwarves that would annoy dwarf supporters because the big issues are things everyone agrees on. 

 

Well I did once remember somebody suggesting the dwarven culture doesn't deserve to survive and ought to be wiped out by the darkspawn.



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I think the "dwarf bashing" thing would be seen as more serious because people would link it with little people, particularly if the bashing involved things like their body. I guess elves and "ox men" are safer targets for people who have to hate on something to make their day.



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I think the "dwarf bashing" thing would be seen as more serious because people would link it with little people, particularly if the bashing involved things like their body. I guess elves and "ox men" are safer targets for people who have to hate on something to make their day.

Didn't stop Gaider from making his comments, hah.



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Damn when I put a link of an image i click "Okay" and nothing happens? Why?! oops off topic, but still somone C.C



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Well I did once remember somebody suggesting the dwarven culture doesn't deserve to survive and ought to be wiped out by the darkspawn.

 

And that person quickly went quiet upon learning that once the dwarves are gone, so too is the surface because you would lose all ability to create more grey wardens, because lyrium is used in the Joining (Alistair) and the dwarves are the only ones who can mine it. 

 

I guess my point is, that the trolls for dwarves don't have much ground to stand on that won't. Most of what they say is generally agreed upon, and the more extreme things, like you said, ultimately hurts the surface if what they suggest goes through.

 

And then the surface would go through a never ending blight, no archdemon or anything, because the darkspawn won't have anywhere to go but up.