Well treated doesn't make them Useful, it merely highlights how well tevinter treats its slaves, even those useless enough to be used as battery's are looked after.
In any case the Soporati are a free class of Mundanes and citizens of the Imperium, They are not Slaves.
That is true... I don't know of any examples of magisters targeting the poor of Tevinter... I thought that was the reason they had slaves in the first place. So they wouldn't need to attack their own citizens?
I was referring to the Second part of your post, not the first.Well treated doesn't make them Useful, it merely highlights how well tevinter treats its slaves, even those useless enough to be used as battery's are looked after.
In any case the Soporati are a free class of Mundanes and citizens of the Imperium, They are not Slaves.
That is true... I don't know of any examples of magisters targeting the poor of Tevinter... I thought that was the reason they had slaves in the first place. So they wouldn't need to attack their own citizens?
They don't need to. There are enough slaves for their purposes.
Well, being a slave would be awful no matter how "well" you are treated... I'm not arguing that at all.
That codex entry about the elven slave who had a "good" life until his master required blood for an experiment was pretty gruesome...
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I was referring to the Second part of your post, not the first.
It doesn't change the fact that those slaves prefer to suffer in a dangerous voyage then been well-treated, if the latter means they have be tortured for the rest of their lives.
Torture and well-treated are mutually exclusive. That slaves that do die do so from lethargy from some extreme Magister or another and their fanatical experiments. Even then the way blood is used for blood magic experimentation would probably be humane. You wouldn't want someone with a grudge serving you your food.
Nice art, but....*shakes head* as if you could tell a maleficar by appearance.
Also, this is the Tevinter support thread, right? OK: there are no such people in Tevinter. At least not more than everywhere else. This is all political propaganda by our enemies.
[Oddly enough, this is actually quite possible when you think about it. The only difference may be that in Tevinter they can have positions of power]
Did you check the source link at all by any chance?
The artist states they are making fun of a specific line in the Chant of light, White Chantry propaganda and exaggerated views of Maleficar and Tevinter. Posted it simply because it's a nice piece of art related to the thread.
Nope. There was a codex of a elf that went for the Dales, Because even if he was well-treated he was used as an experiment for blood magic (and the experiments weren't harmless).Torture and well-treated are mutually exclusive. That slaves that do die do so from lethargy from some extreme Magister or another and their fanatical experiments. Even then the way blood is used for blood magic experimentation would probably be humane. You wouldn't want someone with a grudge serving you your food.
That is true... I don't know of any examples of magisters targeting the poor of Tevinter... I thought that was the reason they had slaves in the first place. So they wouldn't need to attack their own citizens?
Soporati are not the poor class either, Most are Merchants or in the army they can own land and have full rights apart from how high they can go in the Imperial Chantry and they cannot have a direct say in the government.
Not only that but if a mage is born into a Soporati family the entire family gains entry to the Laeten class where they have more rights.
the poor would be Liberati class it's made up of Free'd slave's that are not citizens (and as such cannot own land)
Considering the theres likely many Laeten's in the government, Who have Mundanes as family members and those Mundanes belong to the exact same cast as Magi Laeten's with the same rights (minus being in the government) I find it highly unlikely that they would allow Attacks on freemen for simply being Mundanes.
Soporati are not the poor class either, Most are Merchants or in the army they can own land and have full rights apart from how high they can go in the Imperial Chantry and they cannot have a direct say in the government.
Not only that but if a mage is born into a Soporati family the entire family gains entry to the Laeten class where they have more rights.
the poor would be Liberati class it's made up of Free'd slave's that are not citizens (and as such cannot own land)
Considering the theres likely many Laeten's in the government, Who have Mundanes as family members and those Mundanes belong to the exact same cast as Magi Laeten's with the same rights (minus being in the government) I find it highly unlikely that they would allow Attacks on freemen for simply being Mundanes.
Whoops, I forgot about the 4th class (Liberati)... I had the poor mixed together with the middle class... Yeah, it's easy to make mistakes like that when we have no first hand experience with the culture... 
I wonder how Qunari are treated in Tevinter, by Qunari I mean a vashoth..
I was referring to the Second part of your post, not the first.
It doesn't change the fact that those slaves prefer to suffer in a dangerous voyage then been well-treated, if the latter means they have be tortured for the rest of their lives.
Some slaves, Not all. we've already seen examples of slaves outside of tevinter choosing to fight and die alongside their masters rather than turn on their masters or accept the "freedom" of the south.
I wonder how Qunari are treated in Tevinter, by Qunari I mean a vashoth..
Probably not too kindly, Tevinter still being engaged in active hostilities with the Qunari, even those who don't follow the Qun are probably not well liked, but probably more common as mercenaries.
We don't know if there are free Vashots in tevinter.I wonder how Qunari are treated in Tevinter, by Qunari I mean a vashoth..
I wonder how Qunari are treated in Tevinter, by Qunari I mean a vashoth..
Poorly, I would assume. The Qunari and Tevinters have been at war for centuries... I don't see the Tevinters taking any chances since those "Tal-Vashoth" might be spies.
edit: *lol @ The Elder King* first you 
'ed me here and then in the "No Healing Spell" thread... are you a blood mage? Have you been reading my mind and predicting where and what I'd post? 
Yes, I didn't mean that every slave is treated that way.Some slaves, Not all. we've already seen examples of slaves outside of tevinter choosing to fight and die alongside their masters rather than turn on their masters or accept the "freedom" of the south.
I wonder how Qunari are treated in Tevinter, by Qunari I mean a vashoth..
That is a question that i want answered, no doubt the Majority are slaves treated no different than the followers of the Qun (one would assume they would be captured as POW's and entered into slavery) but surely there must be some Laetens or at the very least Liberati by now? (obviously only those that come from Generations of Slaves that have shown dedication to tevinter and no attachment to the Qun)
Some slaves, Not all. we've already seen examples of slaves outside of tevinter choosing to fight and die alongside their masters rather than turn on their masters or accept the "freedom" of the south.
It's called Stockholm Syndrome.
It's called Stockholm Syndrome.
no stockholm Syndrome is described as: strong emotional ties that develop between two persons where one person intermittently harasses, beats, threatens, abuses, or intimidates the other.
if the Slave is being treated well to term doesn't apply.
It's called Stockholm Syndrome.
It's call being loyal!
no stockholm Syndrome is described as: strong emotional ties that develop between two persons where one person intermittently harasses, beats, threatens, abuses, or intimidates the other.
if the Slave is being treated well to term doesn't apply.
You mean the slaves that serve in blood magic experiments? Or are nothing but a blood battery? And regardless, the magister does intimidate no matter what. That is the person that holds the slave's life in the palm of their hand. So the term applies.
It's call being loyal!
It can also be called being brainwashed. Blood magic can literally do that afterall.
Hmm.
Im starting to get the feeling that Kallen doesent like the Tevinter very much.
no stockholm Syndrome is described as: strong emotional ties that develop between two persons where one person intermittently harasses, beats, threatens, abuses, or intimidates the other.
if the Slave is being treated well to term doesn't apply.
"People learn to love their chains" -- A quote from something I can't remember right now.
Its brainwashing. Like what Fenris said to the brainwashed elf girl who thought everything was perfect until that day "It wasn't, you just didn't know any better." the Magisters don't care for their slaves one bit. They may get to eat and sleep in shelter, but the moment the magister feels like he needs to he'll sacrifice them and use their blood to gain power, and not think twice about it.
Honestly, it worries me that there is a Tevinter support thread. Some people in the world really don't get it.
Hmm.
Im starting to get the feeling that Kallen doesent like the Tevinter very much.
Oh she's been a heretic for a very long time.
"People learn to love their chains" -- A quote from something I can't remember right now.
Its brainwashing. Like what Fenris said to the brainwashed elf girl who thought everything was perfect until that day "It wasn't, you just didn't know any better." the Magisters don't care for their slaves one bit. They may get to eat and sleep in shelter, but the moment the magister feels like he needs to he'll sacrifice them and use their blood to gain power, and not think twice about it.
Honestly, it worries me that there is a Tevinter support thread. Some people in the world really don't get it.
Fenris was suffering from brain damage, return him to his master and everything turns out fine.
Hmm.
Im starting to get the feeling that Kallen doesent like the Tevinter very much.
There has yet to be a reason why I should like them.
"People learn to love their chains" -- A quote from something I can't remember right now.
Its brainwashing. Like what Fenris said to the brainwashed elf girl who thought everything was perfect until that day "It wasn't, you just didn't know any better." the Magisters don't care for their slaves one bit. They may get to eat and sleep in shelter, but the moment the magister feels like he needs to he'll sacrifice them and use their blood to gain power, and not think twice about it.
Honestly, it worries me that there is a Tevinter support thread. Some people in the world really don't get it.
Exactly.
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