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[Uccio]

I have returned from my journey in southern lands. So very uncivilized. I had initially thought the Venatori had the right idea, but they showed no reverance for proper tradition nor for the Gods. The viewed this Corypheus as their god. Absurd. My sources tell me tha he was banished to the Fade by the so called Inquisitor, comical. I have even heard , that after the insult of trying to usurp the throne of Dumat that he even mocked the gods openly. Yet as he was about to be defeated he begged Dumat, our lord for salvation. Silence is appropriately the only response the golden one saw fit to bestow upon the blighted former Magister.

 

It would seem that this Inquisition has developed beyond a mere ragtag group of heathens and into a formidable fighting force. Corypheus has been successful in one aspect, he has greatly weakened the south. Perhaps the time to strike will be soon at hand.

 

 

It is good to have you back, esteemed HP. Too bad we were not able to capture this Corypheus for studying. I sent a team of agents for the task but they did not report back. It seems they were all most likely killed.

Now that you bring news of this inquisitor defeating him at least we can assume he will not pose a threat to the Imperium no longer. There is still the matter of the oxmen but this result should release more resources for the Imperium to finally eradicate them.

[herkles]

the imperial chantry is pro magic, pro mage, pro mage ruling mundanes, pro-mages being part of the chantry it is not the chantry of the south.

[Lord Surinen]

the imperial chantry is pro magic, pro mage, pro mage ruling mundanes, pro-mages being part of the chantry it is not the chantry of the south.

Still it is a chantry, almost the same faith as the one propagated by the simpletons of the south.

[EmperorSahlertz]

By the way, is it not 'support thread'. you don't seem to be interested in the 'support' part.

 

Knock-knock citizens of Tevinter Imperium, keep integrity of your thread and protect it from shaming hijacks. If it is not 'support' then make it go.

I am not bashing Tevinter at all in my posts. I am calling out the posters who do not adhere to the established canon and lore, and thus are inadvertently spreading misinformation about the story of the game, in the story forum.

[Lord Surinen]

I am not bashing Tevinter at all in my posts. I am calling out the posters who do not adhere to the established canon and lore, and thus are inadvertently spreading misinformation about the story of the game, in the story forum.

Considering that most of the lore we get comes from the second hand, written by some biased people, mostly envy of the Tevinter's glory then there is plenty to speculate about. While information we get in games and off game are canon, we don't know if they are legitimate. I would not believe Tevinter writing about Ancient Elves, nor southerner ramblings about Tevinter. truth seems to be illusive gem in Thedas.

[raging_monkey]

It is good to have you back, esteemed HP. Too bad we were not able to capture this Corypheus for studying. I sent a team of agents for the task but they did not report back. It seems they were all most likely killed.
Now that you bring news of this inquisitor defeating him at least we can assume he will not pose a threat to the Imperium no longer. There is still the matter of the oxmen but this result should release more resources for the Imperium to finally eradicate them.

still say we have dialogue the breach has changed me and my partner... things are much clearer

[EmperorSahlertz]

Considering that most of the lore we get comes from the second hand, written by some biased people, mostly envy of the Tevinter's glory then there is plenty to speculate about. While information we get in games and off game are canon, we don't know if they are legitimate. I would not believe Tevinter writing about Ancient Elves, nor southerner ramblings about Tevinter. truth seems to be illusive gem in Thedas.

Except that it is very much established that the Tevinters are Andrastian now, though they follow a different Chantry than the southerners. It is also established that the Old Gods faith was all but stamped out in the years after the First Blight. It is also established that Dragon Cults are largely illegal, or at the very least looked upon with scorn.

 

All of that is hard FACT in Thedas.

[herkles]

Except that it is very much established that the Tevinters are Andrastian now, though they follow a different Chantry than the southerners. It is also established that the Old Gods faith was all but stamped out in the years after the First Blight. It is also established that Dragon Cults are largely illegal, or at the very least looked upon with scorn.

 

All of that is hard FACT in Thedas.

IIRC doesn't the world of thedas book as well as dorian IG say just that?

[Frybread76]

I'm not necessarily a Tevinter fan, but I'm bored to tears with Ferelden, Orlais and the Free Marches.

 

Also, Tevinter would give us the chance to see and experience the pinnacle of magical scholarship and practice in Thedas.  Since I'm pro-mage, that would be cool with me.

[Lord Surinen]

Except that it is very much established that the Tevinters are Andrastian now, though they follow a different Chantry than the southerners. It is also established that the Old Gods faith was all but stamped out in the years after the First Blight. It is also established that Dragon Cults are largely illegal, or at the very least looked upon with scorn.

 

All of that is hard FACT in Thedas.

I have no idea how are they the hard facts. Because presented in the in game books? So the blood magick is accepted more than less by Old Gods are not? Seems to me like a quite big hole in the writings that can be very much stretched in the favour of old faith.

 

Stamped sure, for political reasons. Maybe there was something holding back magisters from going against the andrastianism, like south eager to put their own leaders on the divine throne in Tevinter, or something with their bloodlines and fade relation. Maybe it is time to replace [placeholder relligion] with Old Gods.

[herkles]

I have no idea how are they the hard facts. Because presented in the in game books? So the blood magick is accepted more than less by Old Gods are not? Seems to me like a quite big hole in the writings that can be very much stretched in the favour of old faith.

 

Stamped sure, for political reasons. Maybe there was something holding back magisters from going against the andrastianism, like south eager to put their own leaders on the divine throne in Tevinter, or something with their bloodlines and fade relation. Maybe it is time to replace [placeholder relligion] with Old Gods.

world of thedas is written from an OOC PoV baring a few letters IIRC.

[Lord Surinen]

world of thedas is written from an OOC PoV baring a few letters IIRC.

Aren't codex antries some sort of writings made by someone or stylised this way? Can't say that I remember. It's been quite a time since DAII playthrough and I have not started DA:I yet, because of the: http://forum.bioware...d-its-problems/bug crawling under elven skin.

[herkles]

Aren't codex antries some sort of writings made by someone or stylised this way? Can't say that I remember. It's been quite a time since DAII playthrough and I have not started DA:I yet, because of the: http://forum.bioware...d-its-problems/bug crawling under elven skin.

Codex's yes. But world of thedas is a book you can buy IRL.

[Lord Surinen]

Codex's yes. But world of thedas is a book you can buy IRL.

Never had a pleasure to read it. So it is not based on the in game texts and from perspective of *somebody*? It would be pretty 'weird' considering rather hazy DA lore with only few facts, everything else seems to be like a ride in the dark.

[raging_monkey]

Never had a pleasure to read it. So it is not based on the in game texts and from perspective of *somebody*? It would be pretty 'weird' considering rather hazy DA lore with only few facts, everything else seems to be like a ride in the dark.

its basically the "learn kligon" book parts of it is. Inverse but mostly from a dev standpoint

[EmperorSahlertz]

I have no idea how are they the hard facts. Because presented in the in game books? So the blood magick is accepted more than less by Old Gods are not? Seems to me like a quite big hole in the writings that can be very much stretched in the favour of old faith.

 

Stamped sure, for political reasons. Maybe there was something holding back magisters from going against the andrastianism, like south eager to put their own leaders on the divine throne in Tevinter, or something with their bloodlines and fade relation. Maybe it is time to replace [placeholder relligion] with Old Gods.

Blood Magic and the Old Gods has nothing to do with eachother, so why do you keep bringing that up as if it is a reason to keep worshipping the Old Gods?

 

Tevinters are ANDRASTIANS. Deal with it.

[lordsaren101]

I certainaly do not need the approval of yours EmperorSahlertz. I will praise Dumat. Don't approve? Go picket with the rest of the Andrastian scum.

 

Oh Dumat, Lord of lords, golden god of the golden realm I am your humble servant! Cleanse this place of the unclean. Silence the wicked, and grant the worthy true power. We seek your golden light!

 

(( Oh and by the way, Dumat and the Old Gods are a part of the Dragon Age Canon, so worshipping them is perfectly within the lore of the universe. Deal with it))

[EmperorSahlertz]

I certainaly do not need the approval of yours EmperorSahlertz. I will praise Dumat. Don't approve? Go picket with the rest of the Andrastian scum.

You can RP however you fancy. But usually RP'ers at least try to follow the lore, instead of purposefully breaking it.

If you want to be a magister who worships the Old Gods, fine. What do I care? But do so within the confines of the established lore. A magister would NEVER announce his praises of the Old Gods to the Magisterium, since it would probably result in his summary execution and replacement.

[lordsaren101]

You can RP however you fancy. But usually RP'ers at least try to follow the lore, instead of purposefully breaking it.

If you want to be a magister who worships the Old Gods, fine. What do I care? But do so within the confines of the established lore. A magister would NEVER announce his praises of the Old Gods to the Magisterium, since it would probably result in his summary execution and replacement.

 

They are welcome to try. 

[EmperorSahlertz]

They are welcome to try. 

So not only do you roleplay a Magister (a poor choice from the start). You also fancy your particular magister capable of taking on the entire Magisterium and their servants on his own?.....

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I guess I shouldn't expect much RP intergrity from you then, least of all adherence to the lore, if you really are that bad at it.

[RobRam10]

So not only do you roleplay a Magister (a poor choice from the start). 

H E R E S Y

[EmperorSahlertz]

H E R E S Y

Nah, common RP rule of thumb: Try not to RP as the rulers of nations in established settings. Ergo: Try not to play as the King/President/Archon/Whichever of countries, since they have the ability to influence the entire world, which established settings (ie not player owned) are incapable of adapting.

 

Hence, do not play as a Magister, but play as his protege. Don't play as the King, but as his advisor. Generally play a character CLOSE to power, but not IN power. Or don't play a character near power at all, though in this case, that would be rather boring.

[raging_monkey]

Nah, common RP rule of thumb: Try not to RP as the rulers of nations in established settings. Ergo: Try not to play as the King/President/Archon/Whichever of countries, since they have the ability to influence the entire world, which established settings (ie not player owned) are incapable of adapting.
 
Hence, do not play as a Magister, but play as his protege. Don't play as the King, but as his advisor. Generally play a character CLOSE to power, but not IN power. Or don't play a character near power at all, though in this case, that would be rather boring.

so me being first enchanter is bad ?

[EmperorSahlertz]

so me being first enchanter is bad ?

Yes and no. If the story you guys were trying to tell was centered around that particular Circle, yes (unless the parameters of the RP specifically called for a player to be First Enchanter). It would be bad then, because the First Enchanter of the Circle would have far more agency, capability and power to resolve whatever issue the Rp centers around.

However, on the matter of national Tevinter politics, it isn't THAT bad, since the First Enchanters aren't part of the Magisterium, and doesn't hold as much influence on the country as a whole.

 

You do however play as a possessed mage/abomination, which irks me in a whole other way 

[raging_monkey]

Yes and no. If the story you guys were trying to tell was centered around that particular Circle, yes (unless the parameters of the RP specifically called for a player to be First Enchanter). It would be bad then, because the First Enchanter of the Circle would have far more agency, capability and power to resolve whatever issue the Rp centers around.
However, on the matter of national Tevinter politics, it isn't THAT bad, since the First Enchanters aren't part of the Magisterium, and doesn't hold as much influence on the country as a whole.
 
You do however play as a possessed mage/abomination, which irks me in a whole other way 

what anders and wynn made it cool lol but thank for answering my inquiry