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[Geth Supremacy]

Honestly a magi trying to hold a Seeker against their will is laughable.

The first to try to remove me will find the lyrium in their blood exiting through their eyes. Or my long blade in their gullet.

Either way works.

Beyond that I did nothing but point out the first Enchanters dealings with the royal court of Nevarra.

It isn't as military espionage is a act confined to normal folks.

Gold speaks to everyone.

 

Is that why you hate the Qunari so much? Because none of your "strengths" matter against them....they will just tear your arms off and be done with you?

[KainD]

The first to try to remove me will find the lyrium in their blood exiting through their eyes. 

 

Nah, you're too weak for that.  

Powerful mages have more control over lyrium and magic than some spirit touched mundies. 

[Master Warder Z_]

Is that why you hate the Qunari so much? Because none of your "strengths" matter against them....they will just tear your arms off and be done with you?

A sword cares little for the size of an opponent.

Qunari are but savages and mercenaries.

o.o beyond that stabbing works.

[Master Warder Z_]

Nah, you're too weak for that

Try me.

Last I checked lyrium pulsed upon my heed.

[KainD]

Try me.

Last I checked lyrium pulsed upon my heed.

 

Then your opponent was too weak to protect themselves from your magic. I'll just put a powerful enough anti-magic shield for my self, and non of your powers will work. 

[Uccio]

"As you command, my lord. He shall be apprehanded and await the Magisterium's justice. "

 

*Aurelia would draw out her enchanted scimitar and move to take 'the enemy of the state away' to a prison to be watched over till the magisters decide on what to do with him*

 

Good job. I´m sure he now understood the folly of his accusations. You can release him now.

 

 

But im gpod right ? No mage prison

 

No son-in-law of mine is going to prison. (We will discuss privately what have you actually done and what needs to be done to currect it, away from prying eyes) 

 

Now, slaves, drinks for eveyone!

[raging_monkey]

Good job. I´m sure he now understood the folly of his accusations. You can release him now.




No son-in-law of mine is going to prison. (We will discuss privately what have you actually done and what needs to be done to currect it, away from prying eyes)

Now, slaves, drinks for eveyone!

blast i was making good coin too but honestly im being set up i admit selling arms but only as a minor merchant bussiness... no idea what the seeker is going on about.

[herkles]

Well Aurelia tends to use actual armor and her enchanted sword in addition to magic for battle. I do hope that something like this might be possible in da4. She is basically a tevinter style arcane-warrior, not sure if Tevinter would have a tradition or style like this. I know the original arcane warriors were an elven style, but I figure that tevinter would have their own version of it.

Good job. I´m sure he now understood the folly of his accusations. You can release him now.

*the enemy of the state has been released*

[The Baconer]

"Ordo Silentia, I think it was. Or at least, that's what Gregor told me it said... Vint scratch is all the same to me. Had a dragon like the country's flag, but the colors were all different.

 

I've seen some of those "magisters" or whatever they call them before. Big dresses, lots of jingly bits, shouting so loud the Maker can hear them, but these ones were different. They wore plate, some with large shields and others with greatswords. We'd always joke about getting up close with the robes, seeing how cocky they are with a blade at their neck, but now... being as far away as possible from these sods suits me just fine.

 

We had this Templar, Hugh, I think his name was, and he started making a fuss, calling them out and spitting on the ground and somesuch. A good bunch of the men were cheering him on, and when one of the mages came walking, we all started hollering and stomping our feet. Hugh once told everyone they don't really have Templars over in Tevinter. Not like the ones over here, anyway. The mage (I think it was a woman) stopped a short distance from Hugh and drew her hand back, and everyone covered their heads. I guess we all expected one of them big fireballs. The Vints sure do love those big fireballs. Hugh put up his shield and this, uh, glowy bubble or something appeared around him. All those theatrics, and the mage just shot this sorry little gout of flame towards his face. I don't even think the tiny puff reached his glowy bubble. By the time Hugh realized there was no big fireball, the mage dashed in and went low, stuck him good in the knee.

 

Hugh, the tough bastard, didn't stop going after her, but between his bleeding leg and the longer reach of her sword, he couldn't close enough. It just went on like that for a while, until I guess he finally tired himself out, and took a blade right through the eye slit. Everyone got quiet after that."

[Master Warder Z_]

Then your opponent was too weak to protect themselves from your magic. I'll just put a powerful enough anti-magic shield for my self, and non of your powers will work.

Considering that the ability in question works by making physical contact with the target I don't know how effective that would be.

[raging_monkey]

I wonder exactly how a seeker/templar use their magic... on a related note wasnt red lyrium called antimagic? I didnt see anything resembling that unless im missing something

[KainD]

Considering that the ability in question works by making physical contact with the target I don't know how effective that would be.

 

Well first of all, anti-magic is anti-magic, no matter how close to the target you have to be to perform your spell. Second if it's physical contact.. then it's completely useless. How would you even get into physical contact? xD

[KainD]

I wonder exactly how a seeker/templar use their magic... on a related note wasnt red lyrium called antimagic? I didnt see anything resembling that unless im missing something

 

Red Lyrium is tainted lyrium. 

[myahele]

I take it that mages can use red lyrium too just like regular lyrium....minus the transformation part

[Master Warder Z_]

Well first of all, anti-magic is anti-magic, no matter how close to the target you have to be to perform your spell. Second if it's physical contact.. then it's completely useless. How would you even get into physical contact? xD

Unless if the barrier is hovering less then an inch above your person it does matter.

Move over to the target?

It's relatively simple.

[KainD]

I take it that mages can use red lyrium too just like regular lyrium....minus the transformation part

 

Yes, but the transformation part is also not exclusive to red lyrium. 

[KainD]

Move over to the target?

It's relatively simple.

 

But it's not, you are like a mundie, and I am a mage. I move around like Usain bolt on steroids ( haste ), and can fly around even faster with fade step. And then there's like rocks flying in your face and sh*t, and you are burning and melting, and you are shocked, and frozen, and you are being crushed and hurled around with telekinesis, and your blood is boiling.. and then like, even if the maker himself came and resurrected you a couple of dozen times after all of that and then took you with his mighty hand and teleported you right next to me, you reach out, and find that your hand goes right through me, because I went into a fade cloak, then I just pass through you and you blow up from the inside. Yeah.. 

[Master Warder Z_]

But it's not, you are like a mundie, and I am a mage. I move around like Usain bolt on steroids ( haste ), and can fly around even faster with fade step. And then there's like rocks flying in your face and sh*t, and you are burning and melting, and you are shocked, and frozen, and you are being crushed and hurled around with telekinesis, and your blood is boiling.. and then like, even if the maker himself came and resurrected you a couple of dozen times after all of that and then took you with his mighty hand and teleported you right next to me, you reach out, and find that your hand goes right through me, because I went into a fade cloak, then I just pass through you and you blow up from the inside. Yeah..

You left out the bit were I turn the magic off you stand there dumbfounded and I behead you.

Mages are all the same, remove their curse and they are as frail as a newborn.

[Geth Supremacy]

You left out the bit were I turn the magic off you stand there dumbfounded and I behead you.

Mages are all the same, remove their curse and they are as frail as a newborn.

 

+ vints have never done anything in their lives aside from talk and piggy back off stuff that happened years ago.....oh glory to me!

[KainD]

You left out the bit were I turn the magic off you stand there dumbfounded and I behead you.

Mages are all the same, remove their curse and they are as frail as a newborn.

 

1) Anti-magic cast by an inferior caster won't protect from spells of a stronger caster. Force vs force. 

2) I can actually cast an anti-magic spell to prevent you from casting anti-magic or whatever else you are capable of doing, or just drain your energies so you have no more power for your abilities. Your spirit is not the maker, it's not an endless all-powerful well, and we've fought against quite strong.. would even say stronger spirits and demons in game. And how I understood it, the spirit doesn't even stick around with the seekers, it's just a small boon it grants them. 

 

Seekers are not grey knights, they are not the most powerful mages that also cannot be corrupted, they are just mundies with some extra powers, and will always lose to a well trained natural mage in power. 

[Medhia_Nox]

What game had anti-magic shields? 

 

Mana Clash... no, Nullification Ward? That'll put you in it too... and that would be worse for a mage than it would for a trained combatant with a few superpowers...

 

As for what Seekers are... I consider anyone, mage or not, capable of spending an entire year in solitude and contemplation (as Cassandra said she did)... far stronger than a bunch of polticized blowhard slavelords who resort to blood magic the minute something gets harder than pouring tea. 

 

I have yet to meet a Magister that has been at all impressive... the most impressive Tevinter I've met, was a pariah.

[KainD]

piggy back off stuff that happened years ago...

 

I actually don't, there is not much to piggy back from. An empire that went down hill, lost a lot of it's fortunes, couldn't protect some of it's lands from the Qunari. 

But that's what was, things will change soon, and it will be ''glory to me'' indeed. 

[KainD]

What game had anti-magic shields? 

 

It's a spell shield and how it works is you spend mana to send the hostile spell energies back into the fade. Here obviously the more powerful person with a larger mana supply wins. And this is the same thing templars and seekers do, and it works wonders vs scrubby circle mages. 

 

 

Mana Clash... no, Nullification Ward? That'll put you in it too... and that would be worse for a mage than it would for a trained combatant with a few superpowers...

 

You can spell shield vs anything, including mana clash. And I can only imagine how exhausted a seeker would be if they actually managed to drain out a powerful mage.  

 

As for what Seekers are... I consider anyone, mage or not, capable of spending an entire year in solitude and contemplation (as Cassandra said she did)... far stronger than a bunch of polticized blowhard slavelords who resort to blood magic the minute something gets harder than pouring tea. 

 

You can admire their mental prowess and dedication, but it's not everything that makes an actually good combatant. 

[Geth Supremacy]

I actually don't, there is not much to piggy back from. An empire that went down hill, lost a lot of it's fortunes, couldn't protect some of it's lands from the Qunari. 

But that's what was, things will change soon, and it will be ''glory to me'' indeed. 

 

awww its like he really believes it too! Keep that attitude who knows....one day you might even leave the front gate and explore a few feet.

[KainD]

awww its like he really believes it too! Keep that attitude KainD who knows....one day you might even leave the front gate and explore a few feet.

 

That's where I started right after I got out of the basement where I spent most of my time as a kid, studying magic with my tutor. Started behind the gate, on the front lines, and in the wilds and in the deep roads. Exploring, discovering, gathering and killing, mostly killing.. hundreds upon hundreds of foes that would cross me, quite a lot of your kind as well. House always needed something, and I was not the political type like my older brother.