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[Master Warder Z_]

I love jt when somebody says templars are unstoppable

Unstoppable? Hardly.

People just need to actually understand their abilities and what they entail.

Hence the entire point.

[raging_monkey]

Unstoppable? Hardly.
People just need to actually understand their abilities and what they entail.
Hence the entire point.

But the way fans describe it and ingame remarks kinda give that impression

[KainD]

People just need to actually understand their abilities and what they entail.

Hence the entire point.

 

Exactly, you need to understand that mundanes using lyrium can never have any advantages over mages that can also use lyrium. And mundanes that get boons from spirits will never be stronger than mage abominations.

 

Pseudo mages can be strong and effective, but they will never match natural mages. Of course when you build a whole system in which mages are not trained for battle and forbidden from many spells, and when templars/seekers outnumber them, it will work. But not vs well trained mages that didn't have educational limits and resources. 

[Master Warder Z_]

Exactly, you need to understand

I don't need to understand things the lore itself contradicts.

[KainD]

I don't need to understand things the lore itself contradicts.

 

Where does it contradict what I have said? 

[Geth Supremacy]

i have played those great games... ps3 just died a motnh before DAI

 

hmmmm did you have a PS2?  Is your name from a SOCOM clan Or even from Con on PS3?  No way you're from the "monkey" clan right?  you just have that name just because and not cause of SOCOM?

[raging_monkey]

hmmmm did you have a PS2? Is your name from a SOCOM clan Or even from Con on PS3? No way you're from the "monkey" clan right? you just have that name just because and not cause of SOCOM?

ive own every system to date (literally lol) but i do like socom but never heard of the clan.

My screen name comes from a humorous joke

"Raging": is a ironic telling of my personality, i rarly rage or get mad(when i was younger i reveled in my anger but throw years of joking and relaxing i acheived a mellow disposition

"Monkey": is a satrical shot at a term used by "closed minded" people for african americans. So out of wit and a bit of appropriation i turned a deragotory term for my ethnic group into a humorous joke

Plus monkeys are awsome. They can fling poo and never get in trouble

[Geth Supremacy]

ive own every system to date (literally lol) but i do like socom but never heard of the clan.

My screen name comes from a humorous joke

"Raging": is a ironic telling of my personality, i rarly rage or get mad(when i was younger i reveled in my anger but throw years of joking and relaxing i acheived a mellow disposition

"Monkey": is a satrical shot at a term used by "closed minded" people for african americans. So out of wit and a bit of appropriation i turned a deragotory term for my ethnic group into a humorous joke

 

Foxhunt.  Greatest map ever made....in any game.

 

Yeah I didn't figure it was possible or we would have already known each other before this site.  It was a whole clan of people with names like "sneaky monkey" "chunky monkey" "drunk monkey" "virgin monkey"

 

I was the same way though...I used to rage....anymore I'm just like "meh" I always blame myself, so If we are losing and im playing good and theres just nothing I can do I just say screw it and get offline haha. 

 

good stuff.

[raging_monkey]

Foxhunt.  Greatest map ever made....in any game.
 
Yeah I didn't figure it was possible or we would have already known each other before this site.  It was a whole clan of people with names like "sneaky monkey" "chunky monkey" "drunk monkey" "virgin monkey"
 
I was the same way though...I used to rage....anymore I'm just like "meh"  If we are losing and im playing good and theres just nothing I can do I just say screw it and get offline haha.
 
good stuff.

good times right

[Master Warder Z_]

Where does it contradict what I have said?

The WOT entry on how lyrium works, Cole explaining how Templar powers work.

[Red of Rivia]

 

 

And THIS is bad ass.

 

Spoiler

This Corypheus tarot card is... tense

[KainD]

The WOT entry on how lyrium works, Cole explaining how Templar powers work.

 

What's stopping mages from using lyrium the same ways the templars do? 

What's stopping the mages from doing the same thing without lyrium with their mana, since lyrium and mana do all the same things? 

How can a tiny bit of lyrium that templars consume ( obviously it's not a big chunk, since it would be too toxic and unhealthy ) compare to mages mana supply? 

[raging_monkey]

What's stopping mages from using lyrium the same ways the templars do? 
What's stopping the mages from doing the same thing without lyrium with their mana, since lyrium and mana do all the same things? 
How can a tiny bit of lyrium that templars consume ( obviously it's not a big chunk, since it would be too toxic and unhealthy ) compare to mages mana supply?

lyrium doesnt do that for magi oddly

[Geth Supremacy]

I don't understand the point in arguing for a #2 spot....like.....why?.....

 

When the Qunari come to town you have 2 choices.  Either get down, or lay down.  These trivialities are pointless unless you are doing it for fun....if thats the case then by all means.  Just know even if you are #2 you're still not Qunari.

[raging_monkey]

I don't understand the point in arguing for a #2 spot....like.....why?.....
 
When the Qunari come to town you have 2 choices.  Either get down, or lay down.  These trivialities are pointless unless you are doing it for fun....if thats the case then by all means.  Just know even if you are #2 you're still not Qunari.

and you see why im nuetral lol. Always a hair in one dark spot... much more profitable to milk all sides

[The Baconer]

When the Qunari come to town you have 2 choices.  Either get down, or lay down.  These trivialities are pointless unless you are doing it for fun....if thats the case then by all means.  Just know even if you are #2 you're still not Qunari.

 

That's why Qunlat is the official language of Thedas.

 

Oh, wait.

[KainD]

I don't understand the point in arguing for a #2 spot....like.....why?.....

 

When the Qunari come to town you have 2 choices.  Either get down, or lay down.  These trivialities are pointless unless you are doing it for fun....if thats the case then by all means.  Just know even if you are #2 you're still not Qunari.

 

Shoky pls.. ( Can I call you Shoky? ( ariSHOK'y ) xD )  

Anyway, when Qunari come to town they will get to work on our farms in shackles. 

Also if you venture too far into my lands, you will meet Zarr, and then your army will run in fear! As will my servants.. 

[Geth Supremacy]

Shoky pls.. ( Can I call you Shoky? ( ariSHOK'y ) xD )  

Anyway, when Qunari come to town they will get to work on our farms in shackles. 

Also if you venture too far into my lands, you will meet Zarr, and then your army will run in fear! As will my servants.. 

 

Let's meet in the middle.  We'll go with "Shok"...fair enough?

 

More hot air.  History tells a different story.  Qunari know the "vints" true colors.  You may be able to fool others, but don't try to lie to your betters.  Especially when at best you just give up everything you have and cower behind walls.

 

And such confidence...YOU alone!  And your Fade pet....  it will be your downfall.

[raging_monkey]

Shoky pls.. ( Can I call you Shoky? ( ariSHOK'y ) xD )
Anyway, when Qunari come to town they will get to work on our farms in shackles.
Also if you venture too far into my lands, you will meet Zarr, and then your army will run in fear! As will my servants..

please dont still have nightmares the last time i joined your adventure

[KainD]

Let's meet in the middle.  We'll go with "Shok"...fair enough?

 

More hot air.  History tells a different story.  Qunari know the "vints" true colors.  You may be able to fool others, but don't try to lie to your betters.  Especially when at best you just give up everything you have and cower behind walls.

 

Alrighty then Shok. 

See, I don't care about the history, that was not my time, not my business. What matters is now, and what we have. Then was then, and now.. everything will change, and it's about time. You forgot, I've never cowered behind walls, what currently brings me behind the walls are the secrets that Zarr shares with me. Soon me and a special force of mine will march forward and we will accomplish much, for we know things you never will, and will have power in our hands no one dared to control. The time is now, but the Qunari will have to wait, first the deep roads await. 

[Geth Supremacy]

Alrighty then Shok. 

See, I don't care about the history, that was not my time, not my business. What matters is now, and what we have. Then was then, and now.. everything will change, and it's about time. You forgot, I've never cowered behind walls, what currently brings me behind the walls are the secrets that Zarr shares with me. Soon me and a special force of mine will march forward and we will accomplish much, for we know things you never will, and will have power in our hands no one dared to control. The time is now, but the Qunari will have to wait, first the deep roads await. 

 

Do you know why Qunari breed?  It has an effect.  Those that come from weak stock are weak themselves.

 

I can see you really believe in your heart that your pitiful magic and your fade pet can really move mountains.  I'm sure you can do quite a few things, but the fact you are delusional enough to think Qunari are an enemy you can defeat that you might not even be able to make it through the deep roads.

 

No, you will be Ruck #2 at best I think.

[KainD]

Do you know why Qunari breed?  It has an effect.  Those that come from weak stock are weak themselves.

 

I can see you really believe in your heart that your pitiful magic and your fade pet can really move mountains.  I'm sure you can do quite a few things, but the fact you are delusional enough to think Qunari are an enemy you can defeat that you might not even be able to make it through the deep roads.

 

No, you will be Ruck #2 at best I think.

 

Weak stock, hah.. You are talking to a Dreamer from an ancient Altus bloodline, my legacy is perfection. 

 

My magic is power incarnate, and my ''pet'', heh, she is not my pet, she is my soulmate and in fact she is even stronger than me, an ancient apex predator of the fade, and together we are unstoppable. 

 

Zarr taught me so much of the fade and ancient history that no one in Tevinter ever knew or will ever know, revealed to me so many secrets long forgotten, she gave me wings and taught me to fly.

 

I am not afraid of the deep roads, no darkspawn can stand in my way, and soon they will all bow down before me, as will you.

[Master Warder Z_]

What's stopping mages from using lyrium the same ways the templars do?

Cole actually covered this too just from the reverse.

They already have magic so they cannot connect to lyrium.

[The Baconer]

Cole actually covered this too just from the reverse.

They already have magic so they cannot connect to lyrium.

 

Do you have the exact dialogue for that? Mages certainly connect with Lyrium in their own ways.

[Master Warder Z_]

Do you have the exact dialogue for that? Mages certainly connect with Lyrium in their own ways.

Not on me.

I'm on the mobile.

But it was the conversation where you ask him to describe the Templars and he goes over how they link into "something greater and larger and close themselves off to magic"

Combine that with the WOT entry on lyrium and the implications are...interesting.

Maybe all of the lyrium is interconnected.