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[KainD]

No.

They were the Vanguard sent to seal the breach.

 

Well the inquisitor still did most of the work, so..

[Uccio]

 

Not innately and that's the point.

Using a focus or ritual is using a power outside of the mage.

 

 

But magic is still the activating component and we were talking about magical explosion vs mundane powder explosion. That is relevant.

[KainD]

Not innately and that's the point.

Using a focus or ritual is using a power outside of the mage.

 

No it's just the gathering and culmination o the mage power. Gatlock takes time to mine and prepare, so do more powerful spells. 

[KainD]

And cory had plot armor

 

So do I.

[raging_monkey]

Where does the logic mundan v magic = mundane wins crap come from

[Master Warder Z_]

Well the inquisitor still did most of the work, so..

Not so.

Cite the initial attempt to seal it.

[KainD]

Not so.

Cite the initial attempt to seal it.

 

It worked but not completely. Second time Inquisitor was still doing most of the job.

[EmissaryofLies]

I heard Johnson & Johnson sealed it.

[The Baconer]

Not innately and that's the point.

Using a focus or ritual is using a power outside of the mage.

 

Are cannons fired by someone flexing their innate science? I don't see the point of this.

[raging_monkey]

Are cannons fired by someone flexing their innate science? I don't see the point of this.

mundane supremcy propaganda XD

[KainD]

innate science

 

Lmao

 

You're a scientist Harry!

[Master Warder Z_]

It worked but not completely. Second time Inquisitor was still doing most of the job.

Not even close.

It wasn't sealed, closed or even blocked.

It was stabilized.

That's what was achieved solo.

Mostly the Inquisitor?

The Anchor failed initially because it was too weak.

[Master Warder Z_]

Are cannons fired by someone flexing their innate science? I don't see the point of this.

Nope and that's the point of weapons technology.

Overcoming physical limitations with tech.

It only requires proper understanding of how to operate. No demons, magic or arcane arts.

[The Baconer]

Nope and that's the point of weapons technology.

Overcoming physical limitations with tech.

It only requires proper understanding of how to operate. No demons, magic or arcane arts.

 

That's the point, a magical construct works the same. Even better if it is a techno-magical construct.

[Master Warder Z_]

That's the point, a magical construct works the same. Even better if it is a techno-magical construct.

Magical constructs in this case being?

[The Baconer]

Magical constructs in this case being?

 

Golems, magical signets and runes, explosives a la Anders Special, the death ray in the Exalted Plains, Oculara, the force field that bound Calpernia's master, the Orb of Destruction, the Veil measuring devices...

 

There's honestly more than I can even remember to list.

[KainD]

It only requires proper understanding of how to operate. No demons, magic or arcane arts.

 

Except magic also has laws and rules by which it functions. You can scientifically study magic in Thedas. 

[The Baconer]

Oooh speaking of that Exalted Plains death ray, we need some more of those too. And then maybe some of those machine-gun crossbows with explosive-rune-tipped bolts.

[Master Warder Z_]

Golems, magical signets and runes, explosives a la Anders Special, the death ray in the Exalted Plains, Oculara, the force field that bound Calpernia's master, the Orb of Destruction, the Veil measuring devices...

There's honestly more than I can even remember to list.

But all of those required magic to operate.

The chief division between technology and magic.

To quote Tintop you can put this stuff in a bag.

Anyone can light a fuse, anyone can pull a lever.

Technology is ease of acess, it doesn't require years of study to fire a canon to similar magical results without possession or death requires decades of training and study and development of talent.

That's what I'd argue is the chief advantage.

[The Baconer]

But all of those required magic to operate.

The chief division between technology and magic.

 

No they didn't, aside from maybe the Orb of Destruction and possibly the Anders Special, magic was only required in their creation. Same as the difference between learning how to operate a gun, and knowing how to build one from scratch.

[Lady Artifice]

Oooh speaking of that Exalted Plains death ray, we need some more of those too. And then maybe some of those machine-gun crossbows with explosive-rune-tipped bolts.

 

 

I think you're being sarcastic. But even so, you say the loveliest things sometimes.

[raging_monkey]

I think you're being sarcastic. But even so, you say the loveliest things sometimes.

no explosives im still fixing the hole in the wall XD

[The Baconer]

I think you're being sarcastic. But even so, you say the loveliest things sometimes.

 

I'm kind of not. Blame Bioware for the ridiculous WW1-esque trench warfare and machine-gun crossbows on the Exalted Planes.

[Geth Supremacy]

no explosives im still fixing the hole in the wall XD

 

Don't tell me I'm the only one that had flashbacks of Rambo?

 

[raging_monkey]

I'm kind of not. Blame Bioware for the ridiculous WW1-esque trench warfare and machine-gun crossbows on the Exalted Planes.

trebuches are medievil(technaclly a catapult tho) and think that was a ballista