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[The Elder King]

According to the dragon age wiki, the majority of Imperial templars lack the ability to counter magic. They are primarily soldiers.

Indeed. It doesn't change the fact that the magisters use them for the same purpose the White Chantry does/did.

[Icy Magebane]

According to the dragon age wiki, the majority of Imperial templars lack the ability to counter magic. They are primarily soldiers.

So I guess that means that at least a few of them are legit.  Maybe if you survive for 20 years against abominations and mages without extra abilities that's proof that you're worthy of actual powers.

[RobRam10]

Ah yes Tevinter Templars they are the exemplar of what all Templars should strive for! Being our puppets.

[Tevinter Soldier]

No, but having their magic-canceling abilities certainly help, and whether we like it or not, they are trained to deal with magic.  Most mages don't study ways to interfere with each other's spell-casting, as far as I know.  And I'm assuming that abominations are actually harder to deal with than our experiences in the games suggest.  We are playing as exceptional individuals, after all.

 

And the only thing I'll say about the Tevinter Imperium is that it serves as a good buffer state between Qunari-controlled Par Vollen and the rest of Thedas.  If there's only one good thought to think about them, it's that.

 

Tevinter mages duel in the street's its safe to assume they deal with magic that combats magic far more often then the south.

 

In any case Tevinter has stood for over 2000 years, its safe to assume that given their more relaxed views on magic they either don't get abominations as often as the south (flying in the face of all the souths propaganda that caging mages reduces it)

or they have suitable ways to deal with them.

 

If Tevinter was less capable of dealing with them (given the destruction they cause in the south) Tevinter wouldn't be standing today,If they had anywhere near the abomination levels of fereldon or kirkwall. Particularly given most templars are more or less just normal soldiers, not lunatics that chug lyrium. to cast magic to fight fight magic.

[raging_monkey]

Tevinter mages duel in the street's its safe to assume they deal with magic that combats magic far more often then the south.
 
In any case Tevinter has stood for over 2000 years, its safe to assume that given their more relaxed views on magic they either don't get abominations as often as the south (flying in the face of all the souths propaganda that caging mages reduces it)
or they have suitable ways to deal with them.
 
If Tevinter was less capable of dealing with them (given the destruction they cause in the south) Tevinter wouldn't be standing today,If they had anywhere near the abomination levels of fereldon or kirkwall. Particularly given most templars are more or less just normal soldiers, not lunatics that chug lyrium. to cast magic to fight fight magic.

curious how tevinters are able to have apparently far fewer abomination

[The Elder King]

Tevinter mages duel in the street's its safe to assume they deal with magic that combats magic far more often then the south.
 
In any case Tevinter has stood for over 2000 years, its safe to assume that given their more relaxed views on magic they either don't get abominations as often as the south (flying in the face of all the souths propaganda that caging mages reduces it)
or they have suitable ways to deal with them.
 
If Tevinter was less capable of dealing with them (given the destruction they cause in the south) Tevinter wouldn't be standing today,If they had anywhere near the abomination levels of fereldon or kirkwall. Particularly given most templars are more or less just normal soldiers, not lunatics that chug lyrium. to cast magic to fight fight magic.

They are normal soldiers, though We don't know how they're equipped. They're still used in the case a circle has to be Annulled, so I guess They use something to deal with magic and demons.

[Icy Magebane]

curious how tevinters are able to have apparently far fewer abomination

I've suspected for a long time that the risk isn't quite as great as the Chantry would have people believe, and that possession can be prevented with the right training.  Clearly demonic possession is a serious concern, but the fact that Tevinter is still standing and that we don't see monthly instances of demonic possession in the White Chantry Circles shows that it is not an inevitability for mages.  Even the Dalish clans have been getting by for centuries with mages living among the rest of the tribe.  If the Keepers and mages of the clans frequently became abominations, they would have been outlawed long ago... The real problem seems to be that even one abomination can cause incredible destruction if it isn't quickly destroyed.  A village that isn't prepared for such an event, can easily be devastated or outright destroyed by a single abomination, so the majority of people are only interested in preventing them from appearing, no matter the cost.  How likely they are to appear and what steps can be taken to prevent them (besides segregating/quarantining mages) is a secondary concern for the average citizen...

 

I don't like to refer to Kirkwall very often because of how extreme it tended to be, but it did show us what happens when mages give up on life...  in less oppressive environments, however, the majority of them seem to be able to master their fear of the Fade and live productive lives without their wills being broken by demons.  A few may get tricked here and there like when Uldred gave in to his delusions of grandeur, but so long as mages are wise enough to resist temptation they seem to be able to remain in control... I still think it's important to keep a close eye on them, however.  Just in case.

 

Anyway, my overall point is that since the Magister's tend to be incredibly powerful without the aid of demons, there is little reason for them to give in to their false promises.  Mages in Tevinter occupy the highest social strata, so again, there is little need for them to listen to what a demon has to say... they are already wealthy and powerful.  If anything, the Tevitners probably have to worry about enslaved mages becoming abominations more than free ones... tbh though, I've never really understood how that worked.  Do they have special bonds that cancel out magical powers, like in X-men comics where humans invented collars that cancelled mutant abilities? 

[raging_monkey]

I've suspected for a long time that the risk isn't quite as great as the Chantry would have people believe, and that possession can be prevented with the right training.  Clearly demonic possession is a serious concern, but the fact that Tevinter is still standing and that we don't see monthly instances of demonic possession in the White Chantry Circles shows that it is not an inevitability for mages.  Even the Dalish clans have been getting by for centuries with mages living among the rest of the tribe.  If the Keepers and mages of the clans frequently became abominations, they would have been outlawed long ago... The real problem seems to be that even one abomination can cause incredible destruction if it isn't quickly destroyed.  Because even a single one can devastate a village that isn't prepared for such an event, preventing them at all costs, regardless of the likelihood that one will appear, seems to be a reasonable response...
 
I don't like to refer to Kirkwall very often because of how extreme it tended to be, but it did show us what happens when mages give up on life...  in less oppressive environments, however, the majority of them seem to be able to master their fear of the Fade and live productive lives without their wills being broken by demons.  A few may get tricked here and there like when Uldred gave in to his delusions of grandeur, but so long as mages are wise enough to resist temptation they seem to be able to remain in control... I still think it's important to keep a close eye on them, however.  Just in case.
 
Anyway, my overall point is that since the Magister's tend to be incredibly powerful without the aid of demons, there is little reason for them to give in to their false promises.  Mages in Tevinter occupy the highest social strata, so again, there is little need for them to listen to what a demon has to say... they are already wealthy and powerful.  If anything, the Tevitners probably have to worry about enslaved mages becoming abominations more than free ones... tbh though, I've never really understood how that worked.  Do they have special bonds that cancel out magical powers, like in X-men comics where humans invented collars that cancelled mutant abilities? 

asunder showed tgat magical restraints are available. Takes a mage x amount of time to build up mana and its only so much

[Icy Magebane]

asunder showed tgat magical restraints are available. Takes a mage x amount of time to build up mana and its only so much

Do you know if blood magic can bypass this?

[Lulupab]

Blood magic and the mage being possessed can bypass it. (infinite connection to the fade)

[raging_monkey]

Do you know if blood magic can bypass this?

rhys was a arse but no BM so idk. In theory BM overpowers most anti-mage abilities and generally enchantment so in this case it would work but knowledge on the subject is muddy at best so i cant say its a universal law

[Master Warder Z_]

Do you know if blood magic can bypass this?

 

Probably not.

 

If the person cannot channel mana be it be their connection to the fade or through their blood then the device would in all likelihood negate it.

[Icy Magebane]

Probably not.

 

If the person cannot channel mana be it be their connection to the fade or through their blood then the device would in all likelihood negate it.

Kind of like how the runes carved into the walls and door of the Phylactery Chamber in the DA:O Circle Tower prevented spells from being cast in the area?  Yeah, that's true... it's easy to forget that blood isn't a source of power that replaces mana, it is something that enchances mana in the same way lyrium is supposed to.  The problem is that the game mechanics never showed these relationships correctly, and experience in the game can easily overshadow a few codex entries or dialogue lines...

[Magister Caedus]

Sorry about that, it wasn't meant as a critique at you specially, you just had the biggest post about it. Given most peoples' apparent willingness to go along with unrestrained magical research, while in the same breath condemning slavery the entire position seemed hypocritical.

"There is only one good - knowledge, and one evil - ignorance." - Socrates

 

While this can apply in a variety of ways, in this specific instance, I would say that one should pursue knowledge fiercely, but be mindful of the dangers associated with the research. No-one should ever be forbidden from seeking knowledge, no matter the danger of said knowledge. They should however, take all necessary precautions. Whether that is wearing shoes, or being watched by Templars just in case they become possessed.

[The Ascendant]

I sincerely hope that I can dress my human mage inquisitor like a Magister and decorate Skyhold in a Tevinter style. I imaginesince they rreleased that concept art of Tevinter that this will be possible.

[RobRam10]

I sincerely hope that I can dress my human mage inquisitor like a Magister and decorate Skyhold in a Tevinter style. I imaginesince they rreleased that concept art of Tevinter that this will be possible.

I think we can decorate Skyhold with Tevinter style and we definetly can wear Venatori gear.

[The Elder King]

I sincerely hope that I can dress my human mage inquisitor like a Magister and decorate Skyhold in a Tevinter style. I imaginesince they rreleased that concept art of Tevinter that this will be possible.

I think we can decorate Skyhold with Tevinter style and we definetly can wear Venatori gear.

They shown Skyhold in a Tevinter style. Don't like much the Gallows-type statues in it.

[RobRam10]

They shown Skyhold in a Tevinter style. Don't like much the Gallows-type statues in it.

They shown Skyhold in a Tevinter style. Don't like much the Gallows-type statues in it.

I was hoping for some Dragon statues myself.

[raging_monkey]

I was hoping for some Dragon statues myself.

id like a large lyrium stone in the main hall just to show decadence

[Lumix19]

id like a large lyrium stone in the main hall just to show decadence

That would be fun (and possibly quite lethal).

[The Elder King]

There Are some kind of dragon statues near the throne.

[raging_monkey]

That would be fun (and possibly quite lethal).

oh it will be in a glass case just in case some dumb mage or smuggler gets any ideas... and long as you dont touch it your fine...

[Icy Magebane]

I think we can decorate Skyhold with Tevinter style and we definetly can wear Venatori gear.

That option seems kind of weird though... I mean, I don't mind that it's there since it gives players more roleplaying options, but I just find it odd that a person from the Free Marches would come up with the idea of decorating their home in the style of Tevinter... or that they'd even know what that would look like.  Maybe Dorian knows something about architecture and interior decorating?  I dunno... it just feels out of place.  I guess the assets are in the game because of the Tevinter level in multiplayer, so they might as well use them elsewhere...

[RobRam10]

That option seems kind of weird though... I mean, I don't mind that it's there since it gives players more roleplaying options, but I just find it odd that a person from the Free Marches would come up with the idea of decorating their home in the style of Tevinter... or that they'd even know what that would look like.  Maybe Dorian knows something about architecture and interior decorating?  I dunno... it just feels out of place.  I guess the assets are in the game because of the Tevinter level in multiplayer, so they might as well use them elsewhere...

Tevinter is glorious so its natural that it has decoration.