o.o there should have been a horde of them because of the Breach.
Agreed.
But the closest we get are the Red Templar monstrosities.
It's backwards for the sake of being backwards it seems.
Would have loved to have seen Vivienne's precious loyalists turn Abomination and attack Haven with the Temps/Venatori.
should it?o.o there should have been a horde of them because of the Breach.
The removal of blood magic was the biggest sacrilege Bio could do. The most awesome school of magic with so many shades of grey in morality. Just think of the Inq, do my bidding, no? -> blood magic mind control. Excellent.
o.o there should have been a horde of them because of the Breach.
Why? The Breach and rifts allowed demons to cross between planes without needing vessels.
Personally, I think Blood magic should be a power outside of specialization.
I'd like there to be a DLC in which a Mage Inquisitor would have to opportunity to take it or leave it, like the option to take advantage of Avernus' research. They would have to keep the power secret for the sake of appearances, but It would mesh with the lore better, and it would an interesting opportunity for characterization.
monkey approvesPersonally, I think Blood magic should be a power outside of specialization. I'd like there to be a DLC in which a Mage Inquisitor would have to opportunity to take it or leave it, like the option to take advantage of Avernus' research. They would have to keep the power secret for the sake of appearances, but It would mesh with the lore better, and it would an interesting opportunity for characterization.
In secret at first? Sure.
But there needs to be the inevitable confrontation with a companion about it. Not unlike Joker's conversation with Renegade Shepard in Mass Effect 3, but ramped up and preferably by a companion that's good at connecting the dots.
Or maybe it can be revealed in a grander fashion and the protagonist must deal with the politics and consequences of such actions.
And no 'game over' screens. They are cheap, cheesy, and out of place.
Why? The Breach and rifts allowed demons to cross between planes without needing vessels.
Apparently they are tugged into reality against their will.
It isn't so much a door as a maelstrom.
Right, so where does the horde of abominations come in?
Any word on getting awesome Tevinter style clothing?
no you get a venatori helmet.Any word on getting awesome Tevinter style clothing?
Right, so where does the horde of abominations come in?
just because they do not 'need' hosts, don't mean they won't take 'em.
That Envy Demon should not have been a special circumstance; the writers probably took the 'overabundant abomination' criticism in stride for Inquisition. Vivienne vehemently agrees 'bout those 'bominations too.
just because they do not 'need' hosts, don't mean they won't take 'em.
... But where does the "horde" of abominations come in?
That Envy Demon should not have been a special circumstance; the writers probably took the 'overabundant abomination' criticism in stride for Inquisition. Vivienne vehemently agrees 'bout those 'bominations too.
Well, Envy wasn't even an abomination. It was also summoned and put to task by Corypheus for a specific purpose.
Right, so where does the horde of abominations come in?
Personally, I think Blood magic should be a power outside of specialization.
I'd like there to be a DLC in which a Mage Inquisitor would have to opportunity to take it or leave it, like the option to take advantage of Avernus' research. They would have to keep the power secret for the sake of appearances, but It would mesh with the lore better, and it would an interesting opportunity for characterization.
... But where does the "horde" of abominations come in?
Well, Envy wasn't even an abomination. It was also summoned and put to task by Corypheus for a specific purpose.
If they want to experience the world without being driven mad?
Why would one need a vessel to not be driven mad? What about the process of being forced into the real world would make a spirit, defined by mortals by its desire to go there, go mad?
The veil being breached and demons pouring through? Demons who according to lore seek out hosts so that they can better understand the world around them?
Demons seek hosts as a bridge to the next plane. Obviously, if they can manifest without one then there is no point to this, save the higher-functioning demons who might want to exist incognito.
But, even in that case, they can magically create a form for themselves without requiring a host.
Demons seek hosts as a bridge to the next plane. Obviously, if they can manifest without one then there is no point to this, save the higher-functioning demons who might want to exist incognito.
But, even in that case, they can magically create a form for themselves without requiring a host.
Why would one need a vessel to not be driven mad? What about the process of being forced into the real world would make a spirit, defined by mortals by its desire to go there, go mad?
They DO go mad. It's not a question of what if.
Exactly. And sure, some of them will go it without hosts. But the sheer number of rifts and the breach itself along with all of the chaos associated with such events should be the circumstance of which to expect a horde of abominations. You have a horde of stressed out rebellious mages of which to see the world through and gain power from, or dead mages to puppeteer. Like Arcane Horrors that the Inquisitor encounters, while technically not abominations are close enough.
The writers obviously chose not to go that route as they may have thought it too obvious but the option and expectation of a 'horde of abominations' is there.
I wouldn't correlate a large amount of demons pouring through the Breach with a surge in abominations. Demons who are already manifested in the mortal plane, in their complete forms, have never expressed a desire or need to take a host.
I can see abominations occurring if the rifts exuded a kind of Fade presence or essence that affects mages, but I do not recall a mention of something like that.
They DO go mad. It's not a question of what if.
The majority of demons are already mad, but there's no basis to say that these demons find possession preferable to being shunted through a rift.
Or we could for once get companions and other allies that are completely chill with us using blood magic openly, and then it will make sense.
Sure. Really, the important point to me is that I would like it if Blood magic was an additional, optional power as opposed to taking up a specialization slot.
Personally, I think Blood magic should be a power outside of specialization.
I'd like there to be a DLC in which a Mage Inquisitor would have to opportunity to take it or leave it, like the option to take advantage of Avernus' research. They would have to keep the power secret for the sake of appearances, but It would mesh with the lore better, and it would an interesting opportunity for characterization.
The bloody religious conduct seems to prevent it
The majority of demons are already mad, but there's no basis to say that these demons find possession preferable to being shunted through a rift.
Well Solas says they are driven mad by being forced through the breach. Considering his origins and experience, I'll take his word for it 
Oh and Demons by their very nature aren't mad at all, they embody the specific emotion, pride, desire, rage etc.
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