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The Tevinter Imperium support thread- "Tevinter is coming"


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Ukki quit your plotting for a second and send some ambassadors to the Dwarf thread. Let's get a Tevinter-Dwarven alliance going.


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My esteemed colleagues that grace the halls of the Magisterium,

 

You fight in a war against the Qunari that gets you nowhere, with the very structure of your great country falling into ruin and decadence, while your eyes are blind to this truth. You have magic at your disposal, a renewable resource that could lead you to greatness, yet you wallow in your own pity and longing for days gone by. And what do you do about it? Nothing more then petty power plays that only serve to weaken the nation further.

 

If my bluntness offends, then it offends, but I am here as a Dwarven representative meant to advise your course of action. And now, when the Chantry is weak in the southern nations and its hold on lyrium is loosening, you have an opportunity to gain more then you normally could. Our king, noble Xanthos Aeducan, has retaken much of the Deep Roads under Ferelden in these last ten years and with it the Dwarves have an ample supply of lyrium.

 

You need to look towards the future of Tevinter. The true future. A house divided cannot stand, and what you call a war with the Qunari I and others -- even the Qunari themselves -- see only as the equivalent of a jester's dance. It is meant to entertain only. If you do not change course, then Tevinter will sink. You claim a maxim of magic existing to serve man and never to rule over him. It is high time you live up to it.

 

Look no further then Viscount Tobias Hawke, he who stood against the tyranny of Meredith the Mad and guided Kirkwall down a safe path it has not seen in ages! If one mage can be so beloved by his citizens, then ask yourself this: What could dozens of Mages do? 

 

But if you still remain unconvinced, know that the Circle of Orzammar has mages serving man by helping the Dwarven army, whether at home or on expeditions, and they have made great strides in magical research. They may not rule, but they still abide by the tenet you espouse. 

 

Think on this.

 

I remain, as always, Kaldir Deran, member of the Ambassadoria.


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Ukki quit your plotting for a second and send some ambassadors to the Dwarf thread. Let's get a Tevinter-Dwarven alliance going.

 

 

*Grabs his staff and gestures Nazlik to follow.*


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I ask, then, of the relevant individuals present: What should be the Imperium's next move?



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I ask, then, of the relevant individuals present: What should be the Imperium's next move?

focus on the south

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I ask, then, of the relevant individuals present: What should be the Imperium's next move?

 

Countering (real) Templars. The South is mighty pissed off about the Venatori. As for big-picture, getting the Circles back to 100%.



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o.o lyrium

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I like the blue stuff, baby.



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I ask, then, of the relevant individuals present: What should be the Imperium's next move?

 

 

Despite the current situation in south, the oxmen. There is no denying it, unless that threat is dealt with there is a huge possibility that the Imperium will be stuck between hostile forces, in more so than now. It triumphs everything else since those beast cannot be reasoned with. It includes our renewed will to invest in magical study in circles.



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Yeah, pretty sure everyone will agree that the Circles need moo-lah. Fuckin magisters should be throwing money at the Circles instead of spending it on slaves tbh. 



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All I know is real change is coming to the Imperium.

 

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Yeah focus on the South.  Everyone sees first hand what a problem Tevinter is and how bad they can make things.  Go get em boys send your army and all the allies you can muster up since you can't battle on your own.



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I would advocate discontinuing overt military operations in Seheron. However, we should have our agents continue to operate in the region, as well as working to supply Tal-Vashoth and native rebels. In this manner we could tie the Qunari's hands by destabilizing Seheron without committing the finances and lives to more failed military campaigns. Then we begin re-investing in our Circles.

 

As for the South, I concur with Euandros' motion to develop and implement new anti-Templar strategies and training within our armed forces. Then we should fortify our southern borders.

 

What is the consensus on Nevarra and Orlais? Is there still too much bad blood between them to unite in an Exalted March? An offensive by one or the other does not concern me, but both could be problematic.


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Yeah focus on the South.  Everyone sees first hand what a problem Tevinter is and how bad they can make things.  Go get em boys send your army and all the allies you can muster up since you can't battle on your own.

such "observations" you have... been in the elf root again haha

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I would advocate discontinuing overt military operations in Seheron. However, we should have our agents continue to operate in the region, as well as working to supply Tal-Vashoth and native rebels. In this manner we could tie the Qunari's hands by destabilizing Seheron without committing the finances and lives to more failed military campaigns. Then we begin re-investing in our Circles.

 

As for the South, I concur with Euandros' motion to develop and implement new anti-Templar strategies and training within our armed forces. Then we should fortify our southern borders.

 

What is the consensus on Nevarra and Orlais? Is there still too much bad blood between them to unite in an Exalted March? An offensive by one or the other does not concern me, but both could be problematic.

 

Depends on how far the writers take the Inquisition. Is it dismantled or does it outlive it's usefulness? If the latter peace between Nevarra and Orlais is a real possibility. That could leave Tevinter fighting a two-pronged war. Unless the Dwarves get serious about an alliance the Imperium is in trouble. Maybe a temporary armistice between Tevinter and the House of Tides could be negotiated divvying up Seheron. Gives the Imperium enough breathing room to fortify Southern borders and time to develop new magics. 



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I would advocate discontinuing overt military operations in Seheron. However, we should have our agents continue to operate in the region, as well as working to supply Tal-Vashoth and native rebels. In this manner we could tie the Qunari's hands by destabilizing Seheron without committing the finances and lives to more failed military campaigns. Then we begin re-investing in our Circles.
 
As for the South, I concur with Euandros' motion to develop and implement new anti-Templar strategies and training within our armed forces. Then we should fortify our southern borders.
 
What is the consensus on Nevarra and Orlais? Is there still too much bad blood between them to unite in an Exalted March? An offensive by one or the other does not concern me, but both could be problematic.


True, wasting troops in Seheron equals moral loss. At this point we do not need that. Tactics and plans need to be reconsidered more carefully and more permanent solution should be found. Any land retaken should remain in Imperiums hands.



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Depends on how far the writers take the Inquisition. Is it dismantled or does it outlive it's usefulness? If the latter peace between Nevarra and Orlais is a real possibility. That could leave Tevinter fighting a two-pronged war. Unless the Dwarves get serious about an alliance the Imperium is in trouble.

 

While the Dwarves have enjoyed a close and lasting partnership with us for many centuries, I do not think they can offer us much in this scenario, beyond a line of diplomacy. We will have to observe the situation very carefully. I suppose we could utilize our spies to covertly manufacture some "events" to reignite hostilities between Orlais and Nevarra, but that of course has its own risks. Should we be found out in this endeavor, a war with both nations would be inevitable.

 

 

Maybe a temporary armistice between Tevinter and the House of Tides could be negotiated divvying up Seheron. Gives the Imperium enough breathing room to fortify Southern borders and time to develop new magics. 

 

Tevinter alone knows that all alliances and agreements with these savages are worthless. Even if we had the bargaining power for something like this (which we don't), I refuse to consider any interaction with the Qunari that does not involve their destruction.


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While the Dwarves have enjoyed a close and lasting partnership with us for many centuries, I do not think they can offer us much in this scenario, beyond a line of diplomacy. We will have to observe the situation very carefully. I suppose we could utilize our spies to covertly manufacture some "events" to reignite hostilities between Orlais and Nevarra, but that of course has its own risks. Should we be found out in this endeavor, a war with both nations would be inevitable.

 

Even if they were a rogue entity, isn't failed espionage the reason Nevarra and Orlais are antagonized? If this is the course of action agreed upon we must do so cautiously and with non-Tevinter defectors. Perhaps an unofficial agreement with the Felicisima Armada. They could harass the southern navies while drawing away suspicion. But I'm not keen on applying the adage of 'honor amongst theives' to the Imperium.

 

 

Tevinter alone knows that all alliances and agreements with these savages are worthless. Even if we had the bargaining power for something like this (which we don't), I refuse to consider any interaction with the Qunari that does not involve their destruction.

 

Fair enough. A recall is in order. Seheron is lost. For the time being.



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Even if they were a rogue entity, isn't failed espionage the reason Nevarra and Orlais are antagonized? If this is the course of action agreed upon we must do so cautiously and with non-Tevinter defectors. Perhaps an unofficial agreement with the Felicisima Armada. They could harass the southern navies while drawing away suspicion. But I'm not keen on applying the adage of 'honor amongst theives' to the Imperium.

 

Or incite more suspicion. No matter what course we choose, it will be a gamble. We can either wait and hope they do not reach an accord, attempt to approach one diplomatically, or make an effort to influence conditions in our favor. Either way, it would behoove us to devise a defensive strategy to thwart a possible invasion.

 

Edit: Also, is that defection rate from an official source? Jesus.



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Yeah focus on the South.  Everyone sees first hand what a problem Tevinter is and how bad they can make things.  Go get em boys send your army and all the allies you can muster up since you can't battle on your own.

 

 

Don´t think we have forgotten the oxmen. I will have my trophy, one day.


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Or incite more suspicion. No matter what course we choose, it will be a gamble. We can either wait and hope they do not reach an accord, attempt to approach one diplomatically, or make an effort to influence conditions in our favor. Either way, it would behoove us to devise a defensive strategy to thwart a possible invasion.

 

Edit: Also, is that defection rate from an official source? Jesus.

 

 

Army needs reform. Slaves will run with the moment of opportunity. Citizen soldiers fight but they are still not good enough. The Imperium needs a strong professional army, just like Rome. It will lead to a new era.



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@ Baconer, LOL nah I just pulled those numbers out of my ass for my speech

 

The Imperium needs to go back to being a true meritocracy as unpopular as that notion is. Bloodlines are cool, but look at where Tevinter is now. 'My great-great-great x 3 grandfather used to be a Dreamer or some such so I deserve a seat on the magisterium'. That **** is pure folly. We also need to cut mundanes more breaks, especially those that prove themselves capable. A loyal legionnaire with a sword dies just as well for the Imperium as a legionnaire with a staff.



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Phew, thats a good thing at least. If was afraid that dews had stuffed that info somewhere telling us undirectly of the coming catastrophy.

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@ Baconer, LOL nah I just pulled those numbers out of my ass for my speech
 
The Imperium needs to go back to being a true meritocracy as unpopular as that notion is. Bloodlines are cool, but look at where Tevinter is now. 'My great-great-great x 3 grandfather used to be a Dreamer or some such so I deserve a seat on the magisterium'. That **** is pure folly. We also need to cut mundanes more breaks, especially those that prove themselves capable. A loyal legionnaire with a sword dies just as well for the Imperium as a legionnaire with a staff.

appears ive rubbed off on you haha

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focus on the south

I've returned from Orlais, play the piece on the board.