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[raging_monkey]

Yeah, those. Though, there's a good chance they were a plot convenience that was needed at the moment and we'll never hear of them again.
 
 

 
I understood none of this.

akatsuki is a antagonist group with the naruto universe. The latern thing is basically that unverse's explanation for visbile communication.

[Master Warder Z_]

akatsuki is a antagonist group with the naruto universe. The latern thing is basically that unverse's explanation for visbile communication.

 

My explanation was better and included a picture.

 

o.o

[The Baconer]

I can rectify that.

 

My understanding from the third data book which covered the technique is that you basically have thought waves collected by the Leader and then projected into a physical avatar.

 

Basically picture a hologram of you forming and you being aware of both it and your real body simultaneously despite dozens or hundreds of miles separating you; It was why Akatsuki lasted as long as it did; it didn't many many physical bases when you can literally just have a meeting of holograms in the ass end of nowhere.

 

Hmm. So can that be emulated by a device or is it entirely powered by a person's magic? Closest thing I can think of is a Dreamer projecting thoughts/will through the Fade.

[raging_monkey]

My explanation was better and included a picture.
 
o.o

it was but i didnt wanna spoil anything... accidentally spoiled my sis... she's bit miffed so im trying keep things brief lol

[Master Warder Z_]

Hmm. So can that be emulated by a device or is it entirely powered by a person's magic? Closest thing I can think of is a Dreamer projecting thoughts/will through the Fade.

 

In the Naruto Universe it was strictly through Nagato though by the time of his own death; Akatsuki as an organization didn't exist anymore so there wasn't any further need of meetings. He accomplished it through the implantation of "charka" metal linked to himself, as an anchor to collect his followers thoughts, he acted as both a relay and a anchoring point for the signal, and through him the meetings were accomplished. i actually explain a bit of this in one of my fanfics...anyway.

 

 But anyway could you imagine that though? You could direct a war, rule a nation, all without never having to meet any of your staff directly, you stay in a nice secure remote location, and you can rule the world from there. Its interesting because it circumvents the lack of techology through adaption of ninjutsu, hence me pondering if something similar couldn't be done in Dragon Age, they already possess image capturing and ambient dilogue.

 

It would only need be refined to the point were it could act as a medium of actual conversation, presumably this would require a number of devices issued to everyone you would want present for the conversation.

 

 

Skip to 2:06 for the relevant bit.

 

Assemble x.x sends shivers down my spine everytime.

[The Baconer]

But anyway could you imagine that though? You could direct a war, rule a nation, all without never having to meet any of your staff directly, you stay in a nice secure remote location, and you can rule the world from there. Its interesting because it circumvents the lack of techology through adaption of ninjutsu, hence me pondering if something similar couldn't be done in Dragon Age, they already possess image capturing and ambient dilogue.

 

For ruling the world, there was the Magrallen. For real-time communication, I can think of a number of possibilities, but the ease of application varies.

[raging_monkey]

I would love if the mage classes were dreamers next game seems interesting imo

[Master Warder Z_]

For ruling the world, there was the Magrallen. For real-time communication, I can think of a number of possibilities, but the ease of application varies.

 

That's far too direct, far too vulnerable and as we saw from the comic pretty easy to just straight up negate if you just ninja shank the fellow operating it.

 

o.o No its easier to simply control everything the way it has always been done, with influence, violence and wealth.

 

Its just this way you can do it without ever revealing yourself personally, it will be intermediaries.

 

Mmm that wouldn't be a bad plot i guess, chasing after a illusive figure and sifting through their organization to uncover whatever sinister dealie they are up to.

 

Not very original but then again what is.

[The Baconer]

I would love if the mage classes were dreamers next game seems interesting imo

 

Too stronk. Maybe. Their strength levels seem to vary.

 

 

That's far too direct, far too vulnerable and as we saw from the comic pretty easy to just straight up negate if you just ninja shank the fellow operating it.

 

No one is safe from the hypothetical ninja shank, so there's not much point concerning oneself too much with that. The device and the operator can be holed up in a remote location. If the blood of someone else is being used to power it, it would probably help to further bind them with blood magic to instill total obedience.

[raging_monkey]

Too stronk. Maybe. Their strength levels seem to vary.
 
 

 
No one is safe from the hypothetical ninja shank, so there's not much point concerning oneself too much with that. The device and the operator can be holed up in a remote location. If the blood of someone else is being used to power it, it would probably help to further bind them with blood magic to instill total obedience.

since their powers seem to vary it seems safe to have one. Feyenrial: moderate
Titus: high
Solas: over 9000!!!

But really it just seems like a good thought

[Master Warder Z_]

No one is safe from the hypothetical ninja shank, so there's not much point concerning oneself too much with that. The device and the operator can be holed up in a remote location. If the blood of someone else is being used to power it, it would probably help to further bind them with blood magic to instill total obedience.

 

All i'm saying is that the device suffers from needing a operator and a undisclosed location.

 

And then you need the rituals to actually use the artifact and even worse then that you need to actually be able to use it, from what the thin bearded freak job claimed you need a pretty specific combination of blood for it to even be worth the effort, and then you need to actually build another one because the only one known to exist is sitting in a sunken fortress in about a hundred pieces.

[The Baconer]

since their powers seem to vary it seems safe to have one. Feyenrial: moderate
Titus: high
Solas: over 9000!!!

But really it just seems like a good thought

 

Barring Solas, Feynriel is probably the strongest one we have seen so far, and he was still a neophyte back in DA2. He was able to project commands and messages all the way from Tevinter.

 

 

All i'm saying is that the device suffers from needing a operator and a undisclosed location.

 

A small price to pay if the entire plan is executed well.

 

 

And then you need the rituals to actually use the artifact and even worse then that you need to actually be able to use it, from what the thin bearded freak job claimed you need a pretty specific combination of blood for it to even be worth the effort, and then you need to actually build another one because the only one known to exist is sitting in a sunken fortress in about a hundred pieces.

 

The goal is to rule the world, right? Nothing ventured, nothing gained.

 

Though, it's destruction does **** everything up.

[raging_monkey]

Barring Solas, Feynriel is probably the strongest one we have seen so far, and he was still a neophyte back in DA2. He was able to project commands and messages all the way from Tevinter.
 
 

 
A small price to pay if the entire plan is executed well.
 
 

 
The goal is to rule the world, right? Nothing ventured, nothing gained.
 
Though, it's destruction does **** everything up.

hence moderate since he's still growing. I just classify titus as high due to plot power lol. Still if bw can explain it well we have a nicr little addition

[Master Warder Z_]

The goal is to rule the world, right? Nothing ventured, nothing gained.

 

Oh i agree; its always good to have a ace in the hole; But that device of mass hypnosis is far to vulnerable.

 

Maybe Tevinter cooked up a few more artifacts during its old days, or maybe the Chantry has something they have been sitting on awaiting the next Qunari incursion, i know i wouldn't be resting on my laurels awaiting their next attack.

[KainD]

Barring Solas, Feynriel is probably the strongest one we have seen so far, and he was still a neophyte back in DA2. He was able to project commands and messages all the way from Tevinter.

 

I really wanted to see Feynriel again as a bamf from Tevinter, shame there was no mention of this plot choice.

[The Baconer]

I really wanted to see Feynriel again as a bamf from Tevinter, shame there was no mention of this plot choice.

 

He might be too bamf for the plot to handle now. Hopefully Bioware doesn't kill him or throw him on a bus.

[Master Warder Z_]

He might be too bamf for the plot to handle now. Hopefully Bioware doesn't kill him or throw him on a bus.

 

Don't you mean...under the bus?

 

O_O

[KainD]

Spoiler

[The Baconer]

Don't you mean...under the bus?

 

O_O

 

No. "Getting put on a bus" in this instance means the character is, for whatever reason, removed from the scope of the narrative.

[The Baconer]

The first Qunari is... a failure, at least in regards to the goals of this experiment. Yet, at the same time, it's an exciting opportunity. Once again, I was too forceful in the exertion of my will, but at least it was minutely so. I believe I have found the "sweet spot", the ideal balance of instruction and suggestion. The next attempt will be a success. It is my last chance.

 

Anyhow, I decided to satiate personal curiosity (and test one of my other theories) using the subject of our latest experiment. With great effort, I rendered it's mind a clean slate... Or perhaps that is the wrong term, as there is absolutely nothing left. It is completely hollow, no more alive than a cup or a book. With further rituals, I established a kind of link via Blood Magic. I have found that I can control it with no resistance or further magical exertion. It is completely seamless, like blinking or wiggling my toe. I used it to clean the study area, and can even speak through it, though, I did not do this with anyone present. I'm not sure if I want anyone else to know about this. For the moment, at least.

 

Extended control, however, seems to... draw me away from myself, if that makes sense. Trying to multitask with both bodies is both clumsy and mentally exhausting. Out of total curiosity, I tested how much I could "fill" the new body, but it felt wrong, like I was putting on something too heavy. Perhaps it is for the best with my current knowledge. Even if I could "switch" bodies, would I even retain my ability to work magic? The thought scared me to such an extent that I disposed of the Qunari's body, but now I'm afraid my focus has shifted after this experience. My other endeavor seems so pedestrian by comparison.

 

If only I could repeat the process, with another mage this time... but surely, that would be impossible, and dreadfully illegal. Surely.

 

~ Enchanter Nerva of Vyrantium

[The Baconer]

Jahan,

 

In the wake of the Breach and the Venatori, the diplomatic situation in Thedas has become increasingly unstable. It is possible we stand on the brink of another Exalted March, and as such, we will be shifting our greater attention to the south. You are hereby commanded to suspend all inquiry of experimental Blood Magic, as we cannot afford to provoke a Qunari offensive.You are to relocate your team and assist Lucius in locating General Castelliani and the missing magister.

 

~ I.

[Red of Rivia]

As the government of Rivain works based there are many converts to Qun there? I do not understand how anyone can convert to Qun and stay where you live.

[raging_monkey]

As the government of Rivain works based there are many converts to Qun there? I do not understand how anyone can convert to Qun and stay where you live.

well its a grey area. Officially the qunari rivaini coverts should be in rivain due to the lloymerren accord and last they were there it led to a "pogrom" as you'd call it. But in practice nowadays long as the "converts stay in kont taar" its whatever. Rivaini by cuurent lore say they are polythesistic(spelling?) Not particularly caring what the faith is (chantry zones indigioneous faiths and the Qun)

[Uccio]

Rivaini is quite muddled, a good basis for future unrest, and the Imperium vs Qunari war.


*story continues*

Spoiler

*Nazlik watched him sleep. It was the early hours of a new dawn. It had been couple of days since their meeting with the undeads in that meadow. His wounds were now better but he was still weak, his battle with the Revenant had taken a larger toll than he had wanted to admit. She had to force him to rest longer than usual. Sun had not yet risen over their new camping site but the dim light of a new day was present.
She reached out to touch his nose gently with a straw. In moments like these he looked so calm, and kind. All the gloom that usually surrounded him had vanished revealing a more gentle version of him. He did not look like the kind of man who was able to kill people without blinking an eye. To perform sacrifices on others. To destroy a village full of people without looking back. To be all this and still being able to be so gently and loving man as he was. Strange kind of duality. She touched lightly on the tip of his nose with the straw. He fumbled vaguely with his hand at his nose in his sleep causing her to giggle into her pawn. She couldn´t help herself but to do it again.

Nazlik opened the door to the seers hut. This rivaini seer had come to their village with a entourage of Tal-vashoth warriors from the tribe living close by. Apparently she was once a slave to a Tevinter Magister but was freed by the warriors in a surprise attack on a imperial convoy somewhere on the coast. Tal-vashoth were looking for gold and weapons but instead got their hands on a seer. She convinced them to keep her alive. How she did that was a gossip of its own, but ever since she had proven to be a strong asset for the Tal-vashoth. She had divined several successful raids for them against both the Imperium and the Qun. Now she had risen high in their ranks. These people had come to visit their tribe in order to have them join in a new raid against the Qun. Today seer had granted her a visit as her father, the chief of their village, had requested it. There had been a strange dream she kept having and she had heard this seer could interpret dreams.

The hut was mostly dark. There was only a small dim glow present. It came from a small orb standing in a small rack shaped like a dragon claw on a table at the center of the floor. The only light in this small place. Peculiar things, stuffed animals, dried up parts and strange straw made structures were hanging from the walls and ceiling. Apparently she had made herself at home here already.
First Nazlik didn´t see her as her eyes were adjusting for the darkness after the bright sunlight outside. Then she noticed this grey haired dark skinned woman sitting on pillows behind the table. "Come in Nazlik of the Beres-taar" the woman said, "I was expecting you". Nazlik walked in and sat before the table. "I was told you can read dreams" she said, "I have this dream which keeps repeating itself, maybe you can tell me if it means anything".

"I can" the seer said, "tell me about it". Her voice had strange echo in it, as if two people were talking at once. It made her unease.
"In my dream there is a voice, it says blood has power. Then I see a figure, standing in shadows. I know I love him, and I know he loves me, and I just can´t seem to reach him how much I try". Nazlik looks at the seer confused, "I´ve seen this dream many times but I have no idea what it means or who he is. Not any man in my village that I know".
She had dallied with the young men in his village. Some had even fought each other over her affection, having few broken noses as result. But she didn´t feel anything for any of them. For the displeasure of her father.

"Lets see..." the seer said, she placed few herbs on the orb. In a few moments they started to give off smoke. A strange stench filled the hut, it made Nazlik feel dizzy and a bit ill. The seer inhaled those fume as she started to rock back and forth. As the movement speeds up she suddenly came to a sudden stop. Her eyes turned around, and she turned to Nazlik with a strange voice, "I see a tower behind the sea, a tower of pain where countless spirits cry. You need to go to the beach at the early morning light next full moon. There you will begin your journey. When you see him you will know".
Suddenly her head dropped against the table startling Nazlik. The seer shaked her head as she seemed to gain control of herself. "Was it helpful?".
"Journey? The beach after full moon? What does that mean? Is this dream man coming to pic me up, does he know about me?"
"I don´t know" seer said, "I only see flashes of possibilities, the rest it up to you".

The rest had been up to her. The seer was right, there was a decision to be made. A hard one at that time but It had brought her here. And now she had him and a child. As she touched his nose again he muttered in his sleep. It made her giggle.*

[The Baconer]

As the government of Rivain works based there are many converts to Qun there? I do not understand how anyone can convert to Qun and stay where you live.

 

Officially, those practicing the Qun are supposed to relocate. The codex on the Llomerryn Accords implies that this means leaving mainland Rivain entirely, but it doesn't really go into detail.