@kat ; yeah Hauser did seem happy with more til fans got rabid. And I forgot the did new Vegas... Another fluke(fine it was a good shot just crippled til the 528th patch)
@vitNever said the story wasn't good just... Poor gameplay and crippling bugs. And it was basically a copy paste system wise they could be done better if allevone wasn't Damn perfectionist
I guess I can't blame him.
The community exchanges used to be more fun... probably for him too.
I thought it was that whole period. Both ME3 and DA2. Forums were "toxic" to use his words. I think Jennifer Hepler leaving was a big reason to be pissed too. She was supposed to take over lead after him. And there are still DA fans who think her leaving was a good thing.
these forums are "toxic" because they don't moderate properly, nothing else
You think? I had a bunch of bans and warnings on my last account 
edtt: Nothing directed towards Gaider though...
Thought helper was still around just transferred? More a ya know. And I do how one actually miss a forum. Anyway I've detailed enough
No, she left midway through DAI. She did Cass though...until Gaider took over.
¡Exactamente! ¡Caso cerrado!They're projecting their hatred of white people onto it. Essentially, humans = white people and elves = black people.
ah I see well loved her work hopes she's doing well.No, she left midway through DAI. She did Cass though...until Gaider took over.
What's ironic is Trevelyan is a Cornish name. The Bretons got screwed by Anglo Saxons as much as anybody. Or more. Almost entire ethnicity wiped off the map. This is the legacy of the name.
But I guess they're white.... or can be. So lets villanize them.
Hmm maybe bw should drop da after the next and go back to dnd and nvw seems more their style
I want to play Fenris' background story of what he been through as a slave and have him as a companion for DA4 to chop heads of Tevinter slavers together!
Not sure about his companion chances. As it was mentioned, Fenris could be killed or event sent back as a slave to Tevinter in DA2.
However, as a cameo, a minor quest giver or optional NPC? Yes, I can see it happening. A bit like Nathaniel's and Zevran's appearances in DA2, in which the quests are optional depending on the import, or the Council's and other characters appearances in ME3, in which other NPCs can take their place without the quest changing much. Or there's also the minor reference in a War Table mission.
I want to play Fenris' background story of what he been through as a slave and have him as a companion for DA4 to chop heads of Tevinter slavers together!
So you want the main character to have been the victim of abuse and rape, something that Gaider confirmed Fenris suffered at the hands of Danarius?
I don't know. While I'm all for gaming shining a light on real world issues that are normally shied away from, it'd be extremely hard for the devs to write a main protagonist with that background, let alone how they'd let us as players roleplay within the confines of that framework. Giving that kind of story to a companion would be a better move, because if the writers wished to tell a survivor story of a rape victim, they could more easily do so with someone who is not the main protagonist.
They didn't choose to take this route with Fenris, but rather focused on his amnesia and lack of sense of identity instead. But not wanting to talk about it was at least consistent with how Fenris was depicted, as someone who bottles up a lot. Even when he's had a few drinks and is willing to open up to Hawke (the only one it seems), he still remains on guard and slightly distant. It's just his means of coping with problems, everyone does it differently.
But yeah, such a story is better suited to a companion rather than the protagonist.
^ Regardless of who the person is, I doubt they would go the route of a fixed PC, other than for a DLC, like with Leliana's Song. I don't even know how popular that DLC was, or what kind of feedback it got. I personally never played it because I had no interest in playing someone who was not my Warden, and I'm not even a huge "ZOMG the Warden is the best EVAR!" kind of person. If I'm going to learn those types of details about some NPC -- the kind that are too involved to be related by them and still carry the same weight -- I'd prefer it be in a novel, or something.
In a Dragon Age game I want to play as my own PC, making their decisions.
It may be early, but I'm wondering how can we choose anything other than human mage in DA4. The Inquisitor seeks for Tevinter's aid. That is, their knowledge, magic, resources and etc.
An elf, dwarf or qunari would pretty useless in helping with that goal.
In DA 2 being Human, while limiting, made the most sense. I imagine that they might, I emphasize might do the same for Tevinter. Just because we are human though doesn't mean that life will be easy, we'll probably be a slave and have to earn our way to the top.
The Inquisitor is seeking a capable agent in Tevinter, not official aid from the state. They probably have all the connections they're likely to get on that front through Dorian.It may be early, but I'm wondering how can we choose anything other than human mage in DA4. The Inquisitor seeks for Tevinter's aid. That is, their knowledge, magic, resources and etc.
An elf, dwarf or qunari would pretty useless in helping with that goal.
The issue of different origins has been discussed in the thread before. I'm sure numerous people will be happy to reiterate those ideas, but suffice it to say that there are options at hand, for all of the races. Obviously, some are more likely to have differing origins than others -- I don't believe slave is a viable option for dwarves, but it is for the other three. It also depends on how they structure the plot.
But even if they go for only human again, like DA2, they will not constrain the player to the mage class only.
The post-credit teaser did not imply that the Inquisitor seeks Tevinter's aid, but only that they will be focusing on that region. That is the only thing that can be gleaned from stabbing the knife into the map in that location.
With that in mind, the Inquisitor could be conducting a clandestine operation to keep Solas and his people unawares. Perhaps the PC simply stumbles into some plot or other and has the "option" of joining the Inquisitor. Keep in mind that this is a sort of mirage option, like the DAI PC had the "option" of joining the Inquisition. You couldn't really pick "OK then, bye," even if you ask if you able to leave -- Leliana says, "You can go if you wish."
A slave PC might have some sort of DAO Warden-style method to get out of being a slave, or -- and I don't think many people would like this, but it is realistic -- Dorian could simply buy them from their current master. In that case, they would be a slave for legal purposes only while being an agent for the Inquisitor, or Dorian could give them their freedom (he might do so regardless).
I can imagine a whole scene. A slave PC stumbles onto some sort of plot, but then goes about their business. Later on, they are informed that they have been sold and will now have a new master, BOOM in walks Dorian. I would scream right out loud (in a good way) at the computer if this happened.
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I can see them using only elves and humans, rather than all four, which would be interesting. Or the entire game could be a sort of elf vs human kind of thing where that all comes to a head. However, I doubt the elf fans of the franchise would like being forced to see the elves as the enemy.
But they will most likely not have a single race that is not human. Even if the devs like the idea from a story perspective, it would be a bad financial choice; the most popular race is human and they aren't going to alienate a significant chunk of players, and potential players, by dong that.
I will say that it would be really super interesting for dwarves to have a clear advantage for once, being the only race to not be a slave. That would be a very interesting choice.
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I'm still on the fence on a qunari PC be able to work out in DA4, since it'll be a lot more difficult to trust them after Trespasser. Though at the same time, elven characters might have the same problems with Solas' plan into motion. So maybe they'll manage to make both races work out for a PC.
I don't want them to go Human only now... if they can't even manage to stick with it for DAI. If any game would have been better for it, this was the one. A Tevinter game has more going for it as far as race options go. It'd be silly if they changed their mind now.
I don't want them to go Human only now... if they can't even manage to stick with it for DAI. If any game would have been better for it, this was the one. A Tevinter game has more going for it as far as race options go. It'd be silly if they changed their mind now.
I go agree that it doesn't seem a good thing to going on and off on this matter. I just think there's a change race options might not be in, or some might be cut out.
Anyway, if they plan race options for the PC at least this time they'll write the story with the multiple races PC in mind.
I don't think either of those factors would have an impact in Tevinter. I mean, we can assume that Solas and his goals haven't been made public knowledge and it's not like Trespasser would have made theTevinter view the Qunari any worse than they already did. Yet they don't kill qunari on sight and apparently allow them to walk the streets unhindered.I'm still on the fence on a qunari PC be able to work out in DA4, since it'll be a lot more difficult to trust them after Trespasser. Though at the same time, elven characters might have the same problems with Solas' plan into motion. So maybe they'll manage to make both races work out for a PC.
I'm still on the fence on a qunari PC be able to work out in DA4, since it'll be a lot more difficult to trust them after Trespasser. Though at the same time, elven characters might have the same problems with Solas' plan into motion. So maybe they'll manage to make both races work out for a PC.
I go agree that it doesn't seem a good thing to going on and off on this matter. I just think there's a change race options might not be in, or some might be cut out.
Anyway, if they plan race options for the PC at least this time they'll write the story with the multiple races PC in mind.
I'm still on the fence on a qunari PC be able to work out in DA4, since it'll be a lot more difficult to trust them after Trespasser. Though at the same time, elven characters might have the same problems with Solas' plan into motion. So maybe they'll manage to make both races work out for a PC.
To the Tevinter Imperium, what happened in the South would be nothing new to them seeing as they've been dealing with the Qunari for quite some time now and they've kept qunari slaves despite that.
Amusingly, the Tevinter Imperium is basically the Qunari's stress ball according what I've read on the Wikipedia. It's the mental image I think that amuses me the most.
Note: I'm referring to the qunari that are a part of the Qun as Qunari and the qunari that are not as qunari for simplicity's sake.
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