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[Heimdall]

Arcane warrior is kind of an elf spec. They might add it but I don't think it'll be related to Tevinter.
There are armoured mages in Tevinter though, so I really hope a spec will be related to them.

I would think. The Circles in the south derived the Knight Enchanter spec from the Arcane Warrior apparently, I'd be shocked if Tevinter didn't have its own version.

[The Elder King]

I never meant or said that everyone who thinks slavery is good. The video is merely for educational purposes and how Dragon Age reflects on history of enslavement that's based on that lecture.

I don't have time to see the video right now so I can't comment on what it says, but slavery existed from ancient times. DA isn't referring to a specific enslavement of a group of people.

[The Elder King]

I would think. The Circles in the south derived the Knight Enchanter spec from the Arcane Warrior apparently, I'd be shocked if Tevinter didn't have its own version.

Hopefully this time around I can wear a full armour with my mage.

[straykat]

I never meant or said that everyone who thinks slavery is good. The video is merely for educational purposes and how Dragon Age reflects on history of enslavement that's based on that lecture.

 

I think you'll find you're in good company here.

 

My main difference with the Qun is simply that I'm a classic liberal (not necessarily a liberal in the modern sense). I don't abide the suppression of individuals. It's a form of slavery too.

[raging_monkey]

I'd honestly settle for demon summoning and having the option to occassionally sacrifice a person (party member if plot demands it) to thrawrt some great evil. I mean what greater sacrifice to save the world than to lose everything you fight for..

* puts idea on sticky note for dnd plot*

[raging_monkey]

I think you'll find you're in good company here.

My main difference with the Qun is simply that I'm a classic liberal (not necessarily a liberal in the modern sense). I don't abide the suppression of individuals. It's a form of slavery too.

same though somehow I ended up a modern

[BaaBaaBlacksheep]

I sense your trying to persuade me to the evils of slavery. Don't I'm already against it from ancestral obligation. Plus already saw it

I'm just giving out information because the concept of slavery is interesting and true and how it affects people on the long run. Knowledge is power you know.

[The Elder King]

I'm just giving out information because the concept of slavery is interesting and true and how it affects people on the long run. Knowledge is power you know.

Understood.

[Heimdall]

I don't have time to see the video right now so I can't comment on what it says, but slavery existed from ancient times. DA isn't referring to a specific enslavement of a group of people.

I've tried to explain that to him before.

If anything, Tevinter slavery seems more in line with Roman slave practices than the slavery he's thinking of.

[The Elder King]

I've tried to explain that to him before.

If anything, Tevinter slavery seems more in line with Roman slave practices than the slavery he's thinking of.

Yep, I stated that yesterday too I think. Which makes sense since the Imperium is loosely based on the Roman Empire.

[Seraphim24]

The Tevinter Imperium are pretty much the Red Wizards of Thay

 

http://forgottenreal...Wizards_of_Thay

 

I mean, yeah, they aren't the same, but it seems like a pretty clear inspiration.

 

Whether that in turn has a relation to Rome, who can say.

[Heimdall]

Hopefully this time around I can wear a full armour with my mage.

Would be nice, but I wouldn't hold your breath.

Hm, though maybe there could be some spells based around that? Casting a magical layer of armor around the caster that deals damage to those in the vicinity? Kind of like the battlemage spec.

[raging_monkey]

I'm just giving out information because the concept of slavery is interesting and true and how it affects people on the long run. Knowledge is power you know.

only if you can use it. Else it's just trivia for personal amusement. And I disagree with how interesting slavery can be it's merely a facet of a organic's need to dominate someone for x reason

[MisterJB]

I wouldn't be opposed to providing Tevinter with limited doses of Red Lyrium to take back Seheron but not enough to present a threat to the South.

The only real danger would be if they managed to start mining it from the bodies of their slaves.

[raging_monkey]

The Tevinter Imperium are the Red Wizards of Thay

http://forgottenreal...Wizards_of_Thay

It's basically a 1 to 1 translation

agreed a 1k times I do why people compare them to the sith empire. This is much more incontext

[straykat]

The Tevinter Imperium are pretty much the Red Wizards of Thay

 

http://forgottenreal...Wizards_of_Thay

 

I mean, yeah, they aren't the same, but it seems like a pretty clear inspiration.

 

Whether that in turn has a relation to Rome, who can say.

 

I'm just reminded that we need more DnD games...

[The Elder King]

Would be nice, but I wouldn't hold your breath.

Hm, though maybe there could be some spells based around that? Casting a magical layer of armor around the caster that deals damage to those in the vicinity? Kind of like the battlemage spec.

That would be fine. And yes, it's better to not have too much hope on this. I didn't mention having a sword for the same reason

[Heimdall]

only if you can use it. Else it's just trivia for personal amusement. And I disagree with how interesting slavery can be it's merely a facet of a organic's need to dominate someone for x reason

It can be interesting, I have professors who specialize in the study of slavery, it's various forms and its history, examining cultures that justified it. Terms like "social death" get thrown around.

[raging_monkey]

I wouldn't be opposed to providing Tevinter with limited doses of Red Lyrium to take back Seheron but not enough to present a threat to the South.
The only real danger would be if they managed to start mining it from the bodies of their slaves.

wonder What would happen to mages that imbibe RL reg lyrium merely causes "mutations" whatever those are and a form of sleepwaking

[raging_monkey]

It can be interesting, I have professors who specialize in the study of slavery and its history, examining cultures that justified it. Terms like "social death" get thrown around.

Hmph interesting perhaps later I'll reevaluate my opinion

[BaaBaaBlacksheep]

only if you can use it. Else it's just trivia for personal amusement. And I disagree with how interesting slavery can be it's merely a facet of a organic's need to dominate someone for x reason

I assure you it's not an amusement. But everything what she said is true I mean look how the elves have fallen after slavery from the Imperium and how it affects them socially, economically, spiritually, and mentally.

[Heimdall]

I assure you it's not an amusement. But everything what she said is true I mean look how the elves have fallen after slavery from the Imperium and how it affects them socially, economically, spiritually, and mentally.

Like turning them into hateful isolationists?

[straykat]

Modern slavery differs from the Roman mainly because of wonky mystical reasons. The European slave trade justified themselves with the "curse of Ham". And so did even the Muslim slave trade some dealt with.

 

As bad as the Romans were, it was all business to them. This was far more insidious.. and it led to the American Civil war... where the whole South still followed this belief.

[MisterJB]

I wouldn't be opposed to providing Tevinter with limited doses of Red Lyrium to take back Seheron but not enough to present a threat to the South.

The only real danger would be if they managed to start mining it from the bodies of their slaves.

Hmm, maybe even use it in an non-mage insurrection scenario.

 

[BaaBaaBlacksheep]

Like turning them into hateful isolationists?

Because they have every right to be. Isolationists rather live and help their own people than diverse and "get along" with the people who destroyed them. I don't blame the Dalish shooting humans on sight I give them extra arrows!