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BaaBaaBlacksheep

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Yeah. Some clans get along relatively well with humans, some have a "We won't bug you, you don't bug us" relationship with humans, and some are little more than bandits that attack human settlements and caravans.

"Once an enemy always an enemy."

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straykat

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"Once an enemy always an enemy."

 

Would be better off actually picking worthwhile enemies first.



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"Once an enemy always an enemy."

 

*facepalm* There is no such thing as an eternal enemy. Allies and enemies change all the time.


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BaaBaaBlacksheep

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Would be better off actually picking worthwhile enemies first.

I see all humans as my enemy no matter how good and nice they claim to be. They are still my enemy.

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straykat

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*facepalm* There is no such thing as an eternal enemy. Allies and enemies change all the time.

 

One wonders how he even survived elementary school.


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I see all humans as my enemy no matter how good and nice they claim to be. They are still my enemy.

 

Yeah, I don't believe it.

 

You're just trying to act hard. It's not really convincing me.


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#13232
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"Once an enemy always an enemy."

With that philosophy, you should be perfectly accepting of the treatment elves get since "Once an enemy always an enemy". 


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"Once an enemy always an enemy."

O____o

 

I can't even.

 

 

Edit: Yes, I can even. This is an extremely close minded point of view. It's because of views like this that Red Crossing was such a disaster. Because a group of Dalish could never accept that a human and elf could get along, let alone fall in love, conflict was ignited that left the elves with heavy casualties.

 

Isolationism and ignorant antagonism will get you absolutely nowhere, both in Dragon Age and in real life. You do your argument no credit with such baseless assertions.


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#13234
Heimdall

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The Romans were pretty evil, all things considered.

 

I kind of think of them as like the bog standard for evil in many ways, to be honest.

As a history major, I was always taught to leave my moral judgement of the past at the door while trying to understand.


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#13235
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*facepalm* There is no such thing as an eternal enemy. Allies and enemies change all the time.

It's like Europeans should be friends with PoC despite the bloody history and say "let's get along"!

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I'm not even sure Fenris is that bad off.

 

The fact that he even has a role in DA2 shows as much.



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As a history major, I was always taught to leave my moral judgement of the past at the door while trying to understand.

 

As someone who took European history like 8 times and never got a satisfying explanation for many different phenomena, I think sometimes you just need to go with your gut to understand.

 

But I mean sure, like Marcus Aurelius was kind of inspiring I guess, Octavian seemed maybe all right in the beginning. Maybe early on it kinda meant something, who knows.

 

Of course, there is also substantial settlement and legacies that live on, bath houses, aqueducts, and so on and so forth.

 

But what was Rome's contribution? Did they not just rip off the Greeks who likely ripped off someone else and simply apply some concept of "civilization" first to a wide swath of area?

 

That in and itself doesn't really win plaudits it seems to me, deriving as it does from geographic proximity and happenstance in some ways.

 

But sure, I can be more even-handed, but the statist concept of Rome and "Roman" separate from accident and circumstance was really just not that great, and was, IMHO, pretty evil.

 

The people who followed it, the precise situations that people found themselves in and all that? I'm sure it was much improved, and had lots of heroic figures or people or causes and moments, but the overall tenor of Rome was more or less one of conquest and dominion.



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Yeah, I don't believe it.

 

You're just trying to act hard. It's not really convincing me.

 

I wish he would drop his silly roleplaying.


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The Elder King

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As a history major, I was always taught to leave my moral judgement of the past at the door while trying to understand.

That's a good approach to have while studying history.


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It's like Europeans should be friends with PoC despite the bloody history and say "let's get along"!

 

So basically my existence should be extinguished... because it goes against your preconceptions?

 

My mom might not be black, but she is still a PoC. Who grew up in a ****** jungle.



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BaaBaaBlacksheep

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Yeah, I don't believe it.

You're just trying to act hard. It's not really convincing me.

I'm not convincing you I'm telling you how I feel when I play Dragon Age as an elf that reflects me as a PoC.

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I'm not convincing you I'm telling you how I feel when I play Dragon Age as an elf that reflects me as a PoC.

 

You couldn't even do that. You're practically forced to get along somewhat in these games. You can tame it a bit, but still.


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I'm not even sure Fenris is that bad off.

 

The fact that he even has a role in DA2 shows as much.

I'd argue that Fenris represented the extreme end of the slavery spectrum of the Imperium.



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I'm not convincing you I'm telling you how I feel when I play Dragon Age as an elf that reflects me as a PoC.

Tell me how it'll turn out in DA4 when the elves will understand (if things go in the way it seems right now) that the elven 'god' they're following will lead them to their deaths.



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So basically my existence should be extinguished... because it goes against your preconceptions?

 

My mom might not be black, but she is still a PoC. Who grew up in a ****** jungle.

Yes

 

This guy has previously said he thinks all interracial relationships are a sham because white people only see non-whites as trophies and any non-white person in such a relationship is suffering from self-hatred and wants to be white.


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Hanako Ikezawa

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Yes

 

This guy has previously said he thinks all interracial relationships are a sham because white people only see non-whites as trophies and any non-white person in such a relationship is suffering from self-hatred and wants to be white.

Don't forget the part where it is a plan by white people to breed non-white people out of existence. 


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BTW, the Dalish have even more reason to branch out... assuming they don't remain ignorant. There's no point to them holding to the same stories. Their gods are crap. lol

 

Seriously.

 

On a side note, I wish people would stop talking shite about Dalish worshiping their native gods. Their religion works out for them and they don't need foreign gods. Thats what matters.



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Yes

 

This guy has previously said he thinks all interracial relationships are a sham because white people only see non-whites as trophies and any non-white person in such a relationship is suffering from self-hatred and wants to be white.

 

Yeah, my mom already had a kid from a deadbeat dad... and my dad adopted him. My half brother.

 

If he really wanted a trophy, he wouldn't have bothered.


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On a side note, I wish people would stop talking shite about Dalish worshiping their native gods. Their religion works out for them and they don't need foreign gods. Thats what matters.

 

Maybe so, but it doesn't help the elves. Only June seems to get away unscathed.



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So basically my existence should be extinguished... because it goes against your preconceptions?

My mom might not be black, but she is still a PoC. Who grew up in a ****** jungle.

*sighs* You taking it the wrong way. I'll put this as simple as I can: If two nations or people can't get along and constantly fighting each other then they should separate from each other in general, then if they got themselves together within themselves as nations then they could have diversity. That's all I'm saying.