also agreed.I think the ancient elves and ancient Tevinter tell me what happens if you get too close to this stuff. You just become a monster yourself.
According to wiki spirits of Hope are strongest, at least among those revealed. Also according to WoT "Spirits of Hope rarely appear in the waking world since little there attracts them". I find this interesting to be honest. Nothing attracts them because there is no hope in the world?
Because Spirits of faith are also known to be among the strongest but there is enough faith in Thedas to attract them.
I'm also wondering about how Tevinter would treat a mage who is possessed by a spirit. Because practically that mage is immune to tranquility and has unlimited connection to the fade, that is like you have infinite mana in the game. We know that Lyrium is used in rite of tranquility, if a possessed mage is immune to that, this should make him automatically immune to Templar abilities as well, since they use the Lyrium in similar way to interrupt magic. The only real thing we have on this is Fenris telling Anders he should go to Tevinter because they would appreciate him over there, pointing at the fact that he is an abomination who is in control, at least mostly.
This is one of the thousand questions I want answered when Tevinter comes. 
Spirits of Faith are pretty powerful, they are the ones who cure Tranquil Seekers and give them their powers.
Spirits of Faith are pretty powerful, they are the ones who cure Tranquil Seekers and give them their powers.
Yeah, they are on par with pride demons which is actually their corrupted form.
But that wasn't my point, Spirits of faith are attracted to the waking world because literally the faith of people of Thedas attracts them.
Spirits of Hope are probably stronger or at the very least have same level of power, however according to WoT nothing attracts them to the waking world, this can imply they see no hope in the waking world.
Yeah, they are on par with pride demons which is actually their corrupted form.
But that wasn't my point, Spirits of faith are attracted to the waking world because literally the faith of people of Thedas attracts them.
Spirits of Hope are probably stronger or at the very least have same level of power, however according to WoT nothing attracts them to the waking world, this can imply they see no hope in the waking world.
Aren't pride demons corrupted forms of spirits of wisdom, not faith? That was the whole point of Solas' quest All New, Faded for Her.
It's my impression that spirits of hope are kept by Bioware as some kind of nuke in case they need a deus ex machina in the future without breaking the lore. I still remember the mass guessing before DA:I, when a common theory was that the Inquisitor had been possessed by a spirit of hope.
For all we know, fade!Justinia was a spirit of Hope.
I want to see a spirit of Cooperation, Innovation, Fair Play, or any other "spirit" idioms in the english language the Bioware team can think of. lol
Thy tried to study and catalogue spirits at the same time... it also was a total failure because they kept locating new spirit types.
Even some "demon lords" - whatever the heck they were.
"The Imperium succeeded in finding the disparate and ever-shifting realms of a dozen demon lords, as well as cataloging a few hundred types of spirits, before they were forced to abandon the project." Codex, The Fade
I kind of assumed demon lords just meant demons who held sway over large tracts of fade and other spirits. Like the demons in the Broken Circle Fade section in Origins. And Mouse int eh Mage Origin, too, I suppose. Solas also mentions the idea of spirits or demons having domains at some point (I can't think of the exact context, but maybe it was HLtA?). And someone in charge of a domain can be called a "lord" so if they're a demon, "demon lord".
and bringing back the dead to lifeSpirits of Faith are pretty powerful, they are the ones who cure Tranquil Seekers and give them their powers.
Pretty sure Gaider was the one who said Pride can also be corrupted faith, back in the old forums. I don't think it's one demon type per one spirit type. I think it really depends on how the spirit gets perverted and who does the perverting.Aren't pride demons corrupted forms of spirits of wisdom, not faith? That was the whole point of Solas' quest All New, Faded for Her.
It's my impression that spirits of hope are kept by Bioware as some kind of nuke in case they need a deus ex machina in the future without breaking the lore. I still remember the mass guessing before DA:I, when a common theory was that the Inquisitor had been possessed by a spirit of hope.
Many emotions can become pride if left unattended. Wisdom brings knowledge, but too much knowledge often leads to arrogance, which is kin to pride. Faith leads to conviction, but too much conviction can become intolerance if pushed too far, and intolerance often is accompanied by pride.
They're is a fine difference between an ally and a friend. An ally is someone you join with because of common interests such as business, trading, fighting the same enemy, etc. That's it.*facepalm* There is no such thing as an eternal enemy. Allies and enemies change all the time.
I may be misremembering this, but didn't someone comment that the Nightmare was once a Spirit of Mercy or something like that? An entity that helped people by removing bits of their fears. And then it became corrupted and began inspiring terror and devouring people's fears.
I want to say Solas said that? Or perhaps it was a codex entry? I definitely remember the information being presented, though.
Side note: if you look at Cole's Assassin tree, it dubs him to be a Spirit of Mercy but everyone else in the narrative calls him Compassion. Is Mercy and Compassion perhaps under the same umbrella, with Mercy being a derivation or a type of Compassion?
Well, Gaider did say they had dryads in the DA universe. The Lady of the Forest might have been a spirit that was corrupted by Zathrian's desire for vengeance and so turned into a spirit of vengeance.
I think the Lady of the Forest and the Horned Knight (from Last Court) probably defy conventional classification, as rather than being Spirits that embody ideals, they embody locations instead. The Lady for instance was not able to leave the Brecilian Forest for long, otherwise she'd lose her power.
We know that Spirits can be restored after "death" if the belief in what they represent is strong enough, as the Avvar restore a dead God life by summoning up their collective belief in that God and calling them back into being. It could be that the collective beliefs about the Brecilian Forest and Serault Forest being "dangerous" and "haunted" may have manifested spiritual avatars that constitute precisely those qualities.
Sort of like how people sometimes anthropomorphise places, such as a home, an area of land or the sea, perhaps in Thedas it's actually possible that if enough people believe something about a location, it actually can end up manifesting those qualities in some manner?
Didn't Zathrian summon the Lady from the Fade though? I was thinking she might have become dryad-esque simply because she was bound to that location and so came to embody the nature in the forest.
Either way, Gaider did say for sure she was their version of a dryad.
That said, I do agree she was of the complex, higher order variety of spirits.
Huh, ok. It's been ages since I played DAO, so thanks for the info.Nope, if you call her demon or something she says that she wasn't pulled from the Fade but from the rocks and trees, claiming that she is the Spirit of that Ancient Forest. The Grand Oak also aknowledges it, as he was there prior to Zathrian's arrival and knew her.... By the way... What kind of Spirit was the Grand Oak?
The door is right there, dear. See yourself out for that terrible rhyme.
*bows graciously and exits, stage left*
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