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[The Ascendant]

Magneto all the way. Charles Xavier is such an idiot. If he wanted mutants to be safe, he could easily erase peoples memories of them and make his school an actual school, not a secret base which gets attacked every year.

[straykat]

I got the feeling that the Faith spirit also embraced sheer bullshit. Like it got a lot of it's ideas from little children sleeping, dreaming of quaint stories of heroes and platitudes.

[straykat]

Idiot or not, I'm still in the X camp.

 

You know he's kind of based off of MLK Jr.

 

I suppose N7Phantom would be the Magneto type.

[Seraphim24]

I can't say I'm a fan of either in the end...  their both part of this continuum that posits only extreme kinds of solutions to problems. 

 

At least X doesn't wear a sublimely dorky helmet though.

 

Also I read Magneto was Malcom X actually... or maybe you were referring to X? Idk... 

[straykat]

It's an easy choice for me. You have to coexist.. and everyone needs to find a place in the future. The whole idea of crushing people, thinking in terms of superiority/inferiority, and having to overpower everything just to live.... is ridiculous.

[Seraphim24]

It's an easy choice for me. You have to coexist.. and everyone needs to find a place in the future. The whole idea of crushing people, thinking in terms of superiority/inferiority, and having to overpower everything just to live.... is ridiculous.

 

The thing with Xavier though is he's unable to realize any of his ideals or ambitions. In the worst case you can argue he is Magneto's enabler. I think it was posited as a contest between sanctity of those ideals and an active agent who causes great disruption or chaos. 

 

Whereas I'm like you can't have both? Do people that act always have to be evil and people that stand still weak and pacific?

 

Mergh. 

 

I mean really it's impossible not to take Xavier's side in the grand scheme of things but it's also just a tidbit uninspiring... 

[raging_monkey]

Xavier= MLK Jr

Magneto = malcom x before he evened out

Just my thoughts

And don't call upon the gremlin he will comeback

[straykat]

Xavier= MLK Jr

Magneto = malcom x before he evened out

Just my thoughts

And don't call upon the gremlin he will comeback

 

Yup.. I think Stan Lee even said that.

 

 

Stan Lee... the guy is deeper than he's given credit Same goes for Silver Surfer. That whole comic (the original) is kind of poetic.

[Seraphim24]

Yup.. I think Stan Lee even said that.

 

 

Stan Lee... the guy is deeper than he's given credit Same goes for Silver Surfer. That whole comic (the original) is kind of poetic.

 

You know I think Jean Grey was kind of intended to be a kind of reasonable middle character solution.. sort of an idyllic but fighter figure, although it all instead just goes and ends in tragedy in the Dark Phoenix thing which really those original X-Men movies should of uh handled.. umm.. better

[straykat]

You know I think Jean Gray was kind of intended to be the sort of solution... sort of an idyllic but fighter figure, although it all ends in tragedy in the Dark Phoenix thing which really those original X-Men movies should of uh handled.. umm.. better

 

Yeah, I hate how X3 panned out. The first movies started off good. Famke was cool though.

[Seraphim24]

Yeah, I hate how X3 panned out. The first movies started off good. Famke was cool though.

 

I think her best role was probably in Goldeneye though...

 

Spoiler

 

Really um... seemed to throw herself in that role  

[straykat]

She'd have made a good Cass, when she was younger.

[Seraphim24]

She'd have made a good Cass, when she was younger.

 

Oh and Sean Bean's best role too while we're at it! 

 

Spoiler

 

Try as I might in Goldeneye 64, he just could never be saved     I tried super hard lol 

 

Ok sorry OT 

[The Ascendant]

I knew Trevelyan was familiar to me! No wonder it's a Tevinter family name, we are named after a James Bond villain!

[Lulupab]

I doubt control is something you can breed like you are seeming to suggest. And even then, it's never a guarantee that you wouldn't corrupt a spirit down the road.

Also, Seekers aren't possessed indefinitely, not like you seem to want the mages to be. The Spirit touches them, breaks the Tranquility, grants their powers, and then it leaves.

 

I imagine some in Tevinter have tried for the perfect being, and as others have pointed out, it ended terribly for those involved.

 

Well it was just an speculation. By a lot of effort I mean really try hard to find the perfect spirit matching the host in every single way and train them to live in harmony while also being able to use their power.

 

I was just wondering if Tevinter tried this on spirits, because spirits are not exactly easy to find, unlike demons and all the stories we have heard so far in Tevinter involved demons, not spirits.

[Lulupab]

Also I think spirits of Justice are too pure for Thedas. I don't think the Justice we met in the game had any fault in the matter.

 

By aspect of their virtue, the nobility needs to be punished, the Templars need to be punished etc... its not that simple, but in their eyes it actually is.

[straykat]

Also I think spirits of Justice are too pure for Thedas. I don't think the Justice we met in the game had any fault in the matter.

 

By aspect of their virtue, the nobility needs to be punished, the Templars need to be punished etc... its not that simple, but in their eyes it actually is.

 

I think his fault is he doesn't understand how to get from point A to B.. the process of justice. Or the process of any actions it seems. He just wanted instant results, or threw a fit if it fell short of that. I mean, that's how the Fade is... it's all willpower based. Like Valour created weapons in an instant. Justice needed his ideals enacted like that.

 

And because of that, he's a damn menace.

[Mistic]

Yeah, I hate how X3 panned out. The first movies started off good. Famke was cool though.

 

X3 doesn't exist. It never existing is canon now.

 

I knew Trevelyan was familiar to me! No wonder it's a Tevinter family name, we are named after a James Bond villain!

 

Reminds me of how I had always thought that a guy named "Drakon" sounded more Tevinter than Orlesian, and more villainous than heroic. But of course, the father of the first emperor of Orlais was Tevinter. Septimus Drakon was the non-mage child of a Tevinter noble family, so they wanted to get rid of him by marrying him to a barbarian chieftain's daughter. Maybe we'll meet other Drakons in the Imperium?

 

Also, talking about Tevinter lineages... It's implied there should be descendants of Andraste out there. All daughters, from Andraste's daughter Vivial and the Tevinter mage Regulan. Who bets that sooner or later Bioware will use that subplot to reveal something about Andraste?

[raging_monkey]

Eh descendant of of arguably a madwoman.. And nearly butchered the imps... Sure why now

[Medhia_Nox]

It's an easy choice for me. You have to coexist.. and everyone needs to find a place in the future. The whole idea of crushing people, thinking in terms of superiority/inferiority, and having to overpower everything just to live.... is ridiculous.

 

Yes, the human race is ridiculous. 

 

We are absolutely defined by the qualities to you just lambasted.  

 

I mean... look at video games.  They are about "crushing people, thinking in terms of superiority/inferiority, and having to overpower everything just to live." and that's just our entertainment.

[Seraphim24]

I mean... look at video games.  They are about "crushing people, thinking in terms of superiority/inferiority, and having to overpower everything just to live." and that's just our entertainment.

 

You misspelled "the NFL". 

[raging_monkey]

You misspelled "the NFL".

haha you I like

[straykat]

Yes, the human race is ridiculous. 

 

We are absolutely defined by the qualities to you just lambasted.  

 

I mean... look at video games.  They are about "crushing people, thinking in terms of superiority/inferiority, and having to overpower everything just to live." and that's just our entertainment.

 

Yes, ridiculous. And I would say the human race is slightly (slightly) improving since WW1 and 2. Not anywhere close to positive, but it's a first step where we've finally hit a threshold and start questioning that path. The Human race doesn't HAVE to be that way. If it was, we'd have all destroyed ourselves after WW2.

 

Entertainment is another thing. I don't knock it anymore than I knock Chess. I'm not trying to be some unrealistic weenie. I'm just saying conflict for those above reasons aren't worth it. And you couldn't get enough soldiers on either side anyways. Which is a good sign.. not everyone will die for just any cause now or because they're told to. Many wars in the past were fueled by people who had more power over individuals. And even then, it was hard for someone like Hitler. He had to bullshit his country with false flag operations too.

[raging_monkey]

Fair observation

[straykat]

lol.. that's it... I hadn't looked at this thread in a couple days. I would have figured it bumped more.

 

Didn't mean to get too heavy handed there though. Someone say something about Tevinter...