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[BaaBaaBlacksheep]

Idiot or not, I'm still in the X camp.
 
You know he's kind of based off of MLK Jr.
 
I suppose N7Phantom would be the Magneto type.

Ya goddamn right!!!

[BaaBaaBlacksheep]

It's an easy choice for me. You have to coexist.. and everyone needs to find a place in the future. The whole idea of crushing people, thinking in terms of superiority/inferiority, and having to overpower everything just to live.... is ridiculous.

Or separate from each other and leave each other alone. It is simple as that to have peace.

[Mistic]

Someone say something about Tevinter...

 

Ok, I'll try.

 

More interesting bits of information from the Canticle of Silence. According to it, the corrupted priests plunged from heaven, "and Tevinter saw them burn across the sky like falling stars". The Archon followed the trail until arriving to the plain where once Barindur stood. You know, that lost city whose inhabitants were mysteriously wiped out centuries earlier.

 

The Canticle of Silence is commonly considered (except in Tevinter) imperial propaganda, but the evidence we've witnessed up to now suggests there's more truth in it than the South thinks. The titles of the darkspawn magisters seem correct, and now we know that things from the Fade falling down to earth like meteorites after an attempt to breach the Veil is indeed something that can happen. The ruins of Barindur might be a very interesting possibility for a map in DA4.

[raging_monkey]

What if barindur was the place the deadly 7 transcened

[Andromelek]

Ok, I'll speak of Tevinter

You think we'll meet the Architect again, or maybe another old Magister?

What do you think of Archon Radonis'....outfit?

Did we ever had a word on how the heck Aurelian Titus knew things that others didn't?

[Mistic]

What if barindur was the place the deadly 7 transcened

 

It could be. The Canticle of Silence suggests that it happened in the temple of Dumat, but that the temple wasn't in Minrathous. And wouldn't it be a great idea to build a temple to Dumat in the place of one of his (supposedly) most astonishing feats? Despite Dumat being considered the most important of the Old Gods, the capital of the Imperium and the old kingdom of Tevinter are usually associated with Razikale, Dragon of Mystery.

 

However, it's said Barindur is barren, just fields. If something was built, it was destroyed long ago.

 

I know people are going crazy with Solas this, ancient elves that, but am I the only one who hopes to know more about the Blight in the upcoming game? It's Tevinter, after all.

 

You think we'll meet the Architect again, or maybe another old Magister?

 

If not the Architect, maybe another one of the Seven. There should be theoretically at least 4 left.

 

Did we ever had a word on how the heck Aurelian Titus knew things that others didn't?

 

"Dragon cult" seems to be the "a wizard did it" explanation for Tevinter. In a way, the Venatori could be considered another of those crazy cults... who bets that we'll see more in DA4?

[raging_monkey]

Of inquisition was anything to go by. I assume a political/historical shitstorm of revelations

[Hellion Rex]

It could be. The Canticle of Silence suggests that it happened in the temple of Dumat, but that the temple wasn't in Minrathous. And wouldn't it be a great idea to build a temple to Dumat in the place of one of his (supposedly) most astonishing feats? Despite Dumat being considered the most important of the Old Gods, the capital of the Imperium and the old kingdom of Tevinter are usually associated with Razikale, Dragon of Mystery.

 

However, it's said Barindur is barren, just fields. If something was built, it was destroyed long ago.

 

I know people are going crazy with Solas this, ancient elves that, but am I the only one who hopes to know more about the Blight in the upcoming game? It's Tevinter, after all.

 

Well, Razikale was Dragon of Mystery....perhaps while not head of the pantheon, maybe Razikale was considered so important due to perhaps being the deity that held dominion or patronage over all magical affairs in the Imperium? It would certainly explain why big Circle in Minrathous was attributed to her and not Dumat.

 

And yes, I would kill for more Blight stuff. I want to really start to see how the whole picture comes together. I'd argue that we have a bunch of the pieces right now, but we simply don't know how they interact and connect with one another.

 

 

Ok, I'll try.

 

More interesting bits of information from the Canticle of Silence. According to it, the corrupted priests plunged from heaven, "and Tevinter saw them burn across the sky like falling stars". The Archon followed the trail until arriving to the plain where once Barindur stood. You know, that lost city whose inhabitants were mysteriously wiped out centuries earlier.

 

The Canticle of Silence is commonly considered (except in Tevinter) imperial propaganda, but the evidence we've witnessed up to now suggests there's more truth in it than the South thinks. The titles of the darkspawn magisters seem correct, and now we know that things from the Fade falling down to earth like meteorites after an attempt to breach the Veil is indeed something that can happen. The ruins of Barindur might be a very interesting possibility for a map in DA4.

 

Yup, I wanna see Barindur please.

[The Ascendant]

Barindur sounds like a Thedas version of Pompeii. 

[raging_monkey]

Barindur sounds like a Thedas version of Pompeii.

probably is

[Mistic]

Well, Razikale was Dragon of Mystery....perhaps while not head of the pantheon, maybe Razikale was considered so important due to perhaps being the deity that held dominion or patronage over all magical affairs in the Imperium? It would certainly explain why big Circle in Minrathous was attributed to her and not Dumat.

 

I think it could be a local thing. Like how Athena was the patron goddess of Athens, yet Athenians didn't consider her the chief of Olympian gods.

 

The Neromenian tribes splintered into three main kingdoms (Tevinter, Neromenian and Qarinus), so it isn't far-fetched to think each one had their own patron god. Minrathous was capital of the kingdom of Tevinter before it became capital of the Imperium. Before the unification, every mention in the lore about Dumat's official cult is linked to Neromenian, while Razikale's is linked to Tevinter.

 

A good example would be Darinius. He had been high priest of Dumat before he became king of Neromenian and later first Archon of the unified Imperium, but that was because as a baby he was found and raised by a priestess of Dumat from Vyrantium. His biological mother had been queen of Tevinter and high priestess of Razikale before she was murdered by her Soporati brother.

 

Barindur sounds like a Thedas version of Pompeii. 

 

Makes you wonder if the whole city is buried under the rocks... and if we'll be able to explore it.

[Sifr]

If not the Architect, maybe another one of the Seven. There should be theoretically at least 4 left.

 

Depends if they can soul-surf like Corypheus can, so for all we know we might have six of them potentially in play still?

 

Makes the argument that lead to one of them being cannibalised, take a more sadistic turn if they knew their victim would resurrect in another vessel afterwards, since it'd be extremely unlikely the victim would challenge them further after the memory of being murdered and devoured.

 

While we all assume the one who ran away during the argument was the Architect, what if he was the one who was set up and devoured by the others, thus accounting for the supposed memory loss he claims to have in Awakening?

[Gervaise]

I also read somewhere (probably the Wiki) that Barindur was also meant to be associated with some sort of fountain of youth.   I wonder if this was because it was built over old elven ruins and somewhere there was a lyrium spring.    Which could also mean that the earthquake/volcano that destroyed Barindur might have had its origins in another sleeping Titan becoming awakened through magic.   

 

If you believe the Canticle of Silence does have some element of truth then the site of the Temple of Dumat from which the assault on the Golden City originated was some way to the south of Minrathous, so it could have been on the site of old Barindur.   However, I wondered if it wasn't further south than that, possibly where Corypheus was eventually imprisoned by the Wardens, since the lower levels did seem to be part of an old shrine to Dumat.

 

I'm hoping that we will get a whole lore reveal for Tevinter in the next game, or just human history generally, since their origins are somewhat vague and all the elf lore has thrown everything we have previously been told into question. It is the rise of the Neromenian dreamers, only 50 years after the Quickening, that I am most curious about but everything pre-Imperium would be of interest, since that is the time when the old god worship was first established and everything that followed, including the unleashing of the Blight, would seem to have its origins in the relationship with their priests that was established then.

[Mistic]

Depends if they can soul-surf like Corypheus can, so for all we know we might have six of them potentially in play still?

 

Yes, it could be a maximum of six. However, since we don't know if the Architect survived Awakening and what happened to the cannibalized one, I find it safer to say that there are 4 potential prospects out there, plus whatever Bioware sees fit.

 

Makes the argument that lead to one of them being cannibalised, take a more sadistic turn if they knew their victim would resurrect in another vessel afterwards, since it'd be extremely unlikely the victim would challenge them further after the memory of being murdered and devoured.

 

While we all assume the one who ran away during the argument was the Architect, what if he was the one who was set up and devoured by the others, thus accounting for the supposed memory loss he claims to have in Awakening?

 

That's an intriguing idea (although I wouldn't trust the Architect's words, given his plans and nature).

 

I also entertain the idea that cannibalizing may be a way for these Seven to absorb each other's souls and powers (like Flemeth with the Old God's soul, or maybe Solas and Mythal). That way, Bioware could have a new enemy in the form of a Corypheus on steroids and would allow themselves an easy way out if they decide not to bring the Architect back (if you didn't kill him, he was absorbed by his colleague). Otherwise, bringing back the Architect would make the most sense.

 

I'm hoping that we will get a whole lore reveal for Tevinter in the next game, or just human history generally, since their origins are somewhat vague and all the elf lore has thrown everything we have previously been told into question. It is the rise of the Neromenian dreamers, only 50 years after the Quickening, that I am most curious about but everything pre-Imperium would be of interest, since that is the time when the old god worship was first established and everything that followed, including the unleashing of the Blight, would seem to have its origins in the relationship with their priests that was established then.

 

I hope that too. For all the talk about ancient elves and Solas, who seems to be considered by some the Alpha and Omega of all the secret lore in Thedas, the rise of the humans in general and the Tevinter Imperium in particular, plus the start of the First Blight, is something outside his timeline. And a trip to Tevinter seems the best chance to uncover that knowledge.

[Hellion Rex]

Depends if they can soul-surf like Corypheus can, so for all we know we might have six of them potentially in play still?

 

Makes the argument that lead to one of them being cannibalised, take a more sadistic turn if they knew their victim would resurrect in another vessel afterwards, since it'd be extremely unlikely the victim would challenge them further after the memory of being murdered and devoured.

 

While we all assume the one who ran away during the argument was the Architect, what if he was the one who was set up and devoured by the others, thus accounting for the supposed memory loss he claims to have in Awakening?

Yeah, at the least we have 5 possible, 6 at most, still in play. 

 

I'd almost bet money that if Bioware wants to, they'll make the Architect reappear if they need him in the story, with the explanation of Corypheus bodyhops allowing him to survive.

[Hellion Rex]

I also entertain the idea that cannibalizing may be a way for these Seven to absorb each other's souls and powers (like Flemeth with the Old God's soul, or maybe Solas and Mythal). That way, Bioware could have a new enemy in the form of a Corypheus on steroids and would allow themselves an easy way out if they decide not to bring the Architect back (if you didn't kill him, he was absorbed by his colleague). Otherwise, bringing back the Architect would make the most sense.

Yeah, power absorption seems like an interesting way to address the Seven, and it wouldn't be unlike what Flemeth and Solas have done, respectively.

 

 

I hope that too. For all the talk about ancient elves and Solas, who seems to be considered by some the Alpha and Omega of all the secret lore in Thedas, the rise of the humans in general and the Tevinter Imperium in particular, plus the start of the First Blight, is something outside his timeline. And a trip to Tevinter seems the best chance to uncover that knowledge.

Quite. While elven stuff is well and good, I would like to take a step back and see some Imperial origin stuff as well as Blight heavy lore.

[Sifr]

I hope that too. For all the talk about ancient elves and Solas, who seems to be considered by some the Alpha and Omega of all the secret lore in Thedas, the rise of the humans in general and the Tevinter Imperium in particular, plus the start of the First Blight, is something outside his timeline. And a trip to Tevinter seems the best chance to uncover that knowledge.

 

What is even more intriguing about the emergence of other races in Thedas, is that both Humans and Qunari are stated to have arrived from the north. Elven lore states that the first contact with humans came from the north in ancient times, while the Qunari are said to have arrived from the north when they first landed in Par Vollen, sailing from their homeland across the sea.

 

We're told that when the Qunari arrived in Par Vollen, the natives treated them as if they were the horned Gods of their legends returned. Assuming some ancient Kossith might have sailed to that island and established a colony (like the one in the Korcari Wilds), it could suggest that both races have crossed paths in pre-history, long before they landed in Thedas? Maybe humans and Qunari come from the same homeland, landmass or continent?

[raging_monkey]

They were called mistakes perhaps they are reavers so mutated that they are offshoots of humans and elves are the alien race

[The Ascendant]

What I want to know is how they can use magic yet have no connection to the Fade. According to the lore only Elves and Humans show up naturally in the Fade, but we know that Dwarves and Qunari can end up there. 

[Hellion Rex]

What I want to know is how they can use magic yet have no connection to the Fade. According to the lore only Elves and Humans show up naturally in the Fade, but we know that Dwarves and Qunari can end up there.

We can't confirm that yet. All we know is that they haven't been reportedly seen within the Fade when people are *dreaming*. It doesn't mean that they definitely don't dream and go to the Fade like normal people or that they actually lack a Fade connection.

[raging_monkey]

Think stem says they dream.If they don't dream perhaps they hold alternative source of magic slightly or wholey different from the fade.

It's not uncommon for there to be more than one brand of magic if we look at general dnd

[raging_monkey]

What I want to know is how they can use magic yet have no connection to the Fade. According to the lore only Elves and Humans show up naturally in the Fade, but we know that Dwarves and Qunari can end up there.

could come from the dragon blood some fans claim they have.and dragon blood is magic itself

[Qun00]

I would love to see some hydromancy, as water would be my element of choice, to be honest. Love me some waterbending!

I'm more interested in seeing a spit mage.

[Hellion Rex]

I'm more interested in seeing a spit mage.

Please edit your post. PLEASE edit your post.

[raging_monkey]

So many jokes to be made... But will get banned lol

But the blooming rose has a bunch of spit mages. With grease too