The Tevinter Imperium support thread- "Tevinter is coming"
#14776
Posté 20 juin 2016 - 04:17
Roman naming conventions
Naming conventions for women in ancient Rome
List of Roman cognomina (nick, or personal name)
List of Roman praenomina (common first name)
Legion XXIV - Roman Names Page (these folks are reenactors, or something)
I've used some in writing fanfic that takes place in Tevinter, but that's pretty much it. I won't come up with a name until I get ready to make a character.
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#14777
Posté 20 juin 2016 - 04:22
Has anyone come up with any Latinate names for a potential Tevinter PC? I like Caius and Drusilla.
Would mostly apply to humans and city elves, I suppose. Though I could see a qunari slave (or any slave, really) adopting the name that was bestowed upon them by their master, like Fenris... or choosing a name for themselves like Calpernia did.
The OC I made a while back was named Gaia Vindica.
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#14778
Posté 20 juin 2016 - 04:38
I have several online resources for roman names, most of which are Wikipedia links. Roman naming conventionsNaming conventions for women in ancient RomeList of Roman cognomina (nick, or personal name)List of Roman praenomina (common first name) Legion XXIV - Roman Names Page (these folks are reenactors, or something) I've used some in writing fanfic that takes place in Tevinter, but that's pretty much it. I won't come up with a name until I get ready to make a character.
Great resources! I'm something of a name fanatic, so this is fun. Bookmarking!
The OC I made a while back was named Gaia Vindica.
That's certainly indicative.
#14779
Posté 20 juin 2016 - 10:31
Speaking of Tevinter names, I've always been bothered by a few that appear in Inquisition. Halward Pavus? Livius Erimond? They really don't seem to fit.
#14780
Posté 20 juin 2016 - 12:25
Speaking of Tevinter names, I've always been bothered by a few that appear in Inquisition. Halward Pavus? Livius Erimond? They really don't seem to fit.
As Long As It Sounds Foreign.
This doesn't just come up with Tevene, anyway. Leliana's not an
#14781
Posté 20 juin 2016 - 01:59
As Long As It Sounds Foreign.
This doesn't just come up with Tevene, anyway. Leliana's not anOrlesianFrench name (or a real one, for that matter). Dorian is Greek. Fenris is Norse. I think as long as it sounds vaguely aristocratic and not completely out of place in hodgepodge medieval fantasy Byzantine, they just roll with it.
Halward though. It sounds like a Fereldan turnip farmer's name, and it really stands out in the faux Greco-Roman Tevinter hodgepodge.
And on that note, I'll have to reveal my potential Tevinter MC's name: Xystos, the cooler Greek spelling of the Latin Sixtus.
#14782
Posté 20 juin 2016 - 02:24
Halward though. It sounds like a Fereldan turnip farmer's name, and it really stands out in the faux Greco-Roman Tevinter hodgepodge.
Huh, I never thought so. It just looks like a fantasy smush of Howard (noble + guardian) and Edward (wealthy + guardian). Sounds like something a fantasy nobleman might be named. Maybe more in line with Ferelden, but they seem to favor Gaelic names...
And on that note, I'll have to reveal my potential Tevinter MC's name: Xystos, the cooler Greek spelling of the Latin Sixtus.
Very cool, indeed.
#14783
Posté 20 juin 2016 - 02:38
That's certainly indicative.
It's not actually a Gaia's Vengeance thing; people keep thinking that, but Gaia and Gaius were just highly common praenominibus.
#14784
Posté 20 juin 2016 - 02:39
I think I'm gonna go with Lucan or Lucio for my boy.
#14785
Posté 20 juin 2016 - 03:20
I'm probably gonna have to make a scheming Lucretia at least once.
#14786
Posté 20 juin 2016 - 06:35
I'll probably go with Alessandria.
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#14787
Posté 20 juin 2016 - 07:17
#14788
Posté 20 juin 2016 - 07:23
Just gonna pick a name I like and pretend it fits. ![]()
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#14789
Posté 20 juin 2016 - 07:30
How are Tevinters named? Is it like Latin with a very British sounding name.
Some of the more common names, like Livius (Erimond) and Livia (Dorian's betrothed), are pretty much just Roman names. I'd imagine that they take from a mix of names from the period and region and take sounds that they think are more or less Tevintery. A name like Dorian stands out because it's not very Latinesque, but Dorian himself is supposed to stand out. There probably are some loose naming conventions, but these will be supplemented by how the name fits with a character, associations it might have (both in the game world and real world), whether the writers like the way it sounds, and other such things.
I don't think a player making a Tevinter character need be too concerned about having a Latinesque name.
#14790
Posté 20 juin 2016 - 07:44
#14791
Posté 21 juin 2016 - 01:54
So, I just did Trespasser, and... well, for an elf PC, it's honestly not very good. Maybe it'll be more fun as a qunari, when I won't be forced to unduly ignore the gigantic chunks of elven history being dropped on my head. However, more germane to this topic, the ending slide with Dorian on it appears to contain Maevaris as well, and I believe she has actual breasts. Possibly wider hips too, though the corset may be confusing things. Either way, it gives me hope that she might be having a successful magical transitioning.
#14792
Posté 21 juin 2016 - 01:58
Then again it could be done by shapeshifting morri only said she couldn't and lacked a reason to modify her form so it no big leap imo
#14793
Posté 21 juin 2016 - 02:20
Some of the more common names, like Livius (Erimond) and Livia (Dorian's betrothed), are pretty much just Roman names. I'd imagine that they take from a mix of names from the period and region and take sounds that they think are more or less Tevintery. A name like Dorian stands out because it's not very Latinesque, but Dorian himself is supposed to stand out. There probably are some loose naming conventions, but these will be supplemented by how the name fits with a character, associations it might have (both in the game world and real world), whether the writers like the way it sounds, and other such things.
I don't think a player making a Tevinter character need be too concerned about having a Latinesque name.
This makes sense in a way. I mean, Tevinter's territory was populated by multiple Neromenian tribes/kingdoms, before it coalesced under the Tevinters. There are likely different naming conventions and twists depending on if your from or around Qarinus vs Minrathous, for example.
#14794
Posté 21 juin 2016 - 02:27
#14795
Posté 21 juin 2016 - 02:48
Halward though. It sounds like a Fereldan turnip farmer's name, and it really stands out in the faux Greco-Roman Tevinter hodgepodge.
Halward's mother might have been Fereldan? Dorian mentions that the Pavus family are distantly related to the Trevelyans several generations back, so it seems they don't mind marrying outside of Tevinter from time to time?
Would also fit with how the nobles in Thedas seem to have no issue "jetsetting" despite it being a medieval setting. Teyrn Cousland is said to often visit Orlais, Fergus Cousland married an Antivan wife, Josephine's father is close friends with Baron Desjardins from Orlais and Josie herself often attended the famous shindigs held by Trevelyan's Great Aunt Lucille in the Free Marches.
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#14796
Posté 21 juin 2016 - 03:17
#14797
Posté 21 juin 2016 - 08:48
Even now in many cultures marriage of cousins is not counted as incest though. I think Rome had this culture, only immediate relatives were taboo.
#14798
Posté 21 juin 2016 - 09:06
So, I just did Trespasser, and... well, for an elf PC, it's honestly not very good. Maybe it'll be more fun as a qunari, when I won't be forced to unduly ignore the gigantic chunks of elven history being dropped on my head. However, more germane to this topic, the ending slide with Dorian on it appears to contain Maevaris as well, and I believe she has actual breasts. Possibly wider hips too, though the corset may be confusing things. Either way, it gives me hope that she might be having a successful magical transitioning.
Why would you ignore it?
#14799
Posté 21 juin 2016 - 09:33
However, more germane to this topic, the ending slide with Dorian on it appears to contain Maevaris as well, and I believe she has actual breasts. Possibly wider hips too, though the corset may be confusing things. Either way, it gives me hope that she might be having a successful magical transitioning.
Could just be artistic lisence. But +2 for bw adding that part
Then again it could be done by shapeshifting morri only said she couldn't and lacked a reason to modify her form so it no big leap imo
I think it's artistic license, to be honest. It's not like Dorian looks like his actual self either and in fact has a different appearance, with different ages, in all three slides for him.
#14800
Posté 21 juin 2016 - 09:42
Halward's mother might have been Fereldan? Dorian mentions that the Pavus family are distantly related to the Trevelyans several generations back, so it seems they don't mind marrying outside of Tevinter from time to time?
Would also fit with how the nobles in Thedas seem to have no issue "jetsetting" despite it being a medieval setting. Teyrn Cousland is said to often visit Orlais, Fergus Cousland married an Antivan wife, Josephine's father is close friends with Baron Desjardins from Orlais and Josie herself often attended the famous shindigs held by Trevelyan's Great Aunt Lucille in the Free Marches.
No, he says, "Oh, not first cousins or anything like that. Can you imagine? You’re a Trevelyan, however, and somewhere in the dank nethers of my family tree, there was also a Trevelyan. Perhaps he was even the one who ventured to Ostwick to establish the branch? We are talking long ago, of course."
Note the "ventured to Ostwick" part. Don't forget that, like Ferelden, the Free Marches were once a part of Tevinter; Ostwick, Kirkwall, all of that, and there were likely Tevinters spreading out all over at one time.
His words seem to suggest that Trevelyan is actually a really old Tevinter family. Perhaps over time, the ones remaining in Tevinter had mostly daughters and the Tevinter branch died out (in name), leaving only the ones in Ostwick.
Hah... it would be amusing to know if there is a seat in the Magisterium reserved for the Trevelyans that no one knows about.
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