Oh, it just occurred to me: it'd be hilarious if they pulled a TES and our PC woke up imprisoned at Aeonar shortly after ~something~ went down.
I don't know why I want this, but now I do. How many dangerous PO'd prisoners would be there? I liiiiike.
So, like Inquisition?
And we just happen to have a secret passage in our cells that the Archon passes through... Thankfully, our predecessor already closed the fade rifts, so all that's left is for someone to turn into a dragon at the end.
So, like Inquisition?
) the PC. But a prison specifically for people who "abuse" magic (or are suspected of such) would leave room for pretty much any background and race.
Nah, Inky only hung out in a cell for like... two minutes. I was envisioning a breakout sequence, magical alarms going off, fellow prisoners teaming up with (and betraying
I suppose non-mages could get mistaken for mages, but how would a dwarf fit there?
Dwarves...? Convicted of making illicit runes, or something? Or do you mean your quoted "abuse" to refer to sham charges and such?
Lol... now I have this thing in my mind of there being an underground market for lyrium that the Dwarven Merchant's Guild is trying to stamp out, particularly since it's laced with inert material like blue chalk and such, giving their legitimate product a bad name. They work with the Tevinter government to get rid of the competition in the name of product safety and reliability. Yeah, that's it, "safety" and "reliability."
How would a dwarf fit there?
Maybe they thought you were a little too familiar with that rogue apostate in Kirkwall, or you're suspected of smuggling lyrium to blood mages, or you're Dagna.
good start but the mundies have no magicNah, Inky only hung out in a cell for like... two minutes. I was envisioning a breakout sequence, magical alarms going off, fellow prisoners teaming up with (and betraying
Dwarves...? Convicted of making illicit runes, or something? Or do you mean your quoted "abuse" to refer to sham charges and such?
Lol... now I have this thing in my mind of there being an underground market for lyrium that the Dwarven Merchant's Guild is trying to stamp out, particularly since it's laced with inert material like blue chalk and such, giving their legitimate product a bad name. They work with the Tevinter government to get rid of the competition in the name of product safety and reliability. Yeah, that's it, "safety" and "reliability."
Really though, this is the truest thing. Dwarven merchants, legit or not, have a habit of sounding like shady used car salesmen.Considering Bioware's habit in going the opposite way when some feature is criticized, I think it's more likely we'll get a more detailed background and prologue this time then a news Prisoner start.
good start but the mundies have no magic
Dwarves...? Convicted of making illicit runes, or something? Or do you mean your quoted "abuse" to refer to sham charges and such?
Lol... now I have this thing in my mind of there being an underground market for lyrium that the Dwarven Merchant's Guild is trying to stamp out, particularly since it's laced with inert material like blue chalk and such, giving their legitimate product a bad name. They work with the Tevinter government to get rid of the competition in the name of product safety and reliability. Yeah, that's it, "safety" and "reliability."
"laced with (...) blue chalk". ha! I'll have to remember that. 
Are you sure you aren't a dwarf, nightscrawl? You sure are thinking like one.
Wait, what? It's been abandoned?I'd like to find out why it's been abandoned.
Wait, what? It's been abandoned?
It's in WoT2, some Seekers went to check it out after the mage-templar war and (I'm assuming) the Breach and they found it abandoned with no signs of violence. ~makes X-File noise~
I am 4' 11.5" ...
It's in WoT2, some Seekers went to check it out after the mage-templar war and (I'm assuming) the Breach and they found it abandoned with no signs of violence. ~makes X-File noise~
Okay, raise your hands.
Who here believes that Bioware, with what we've seen so far can do justice to a Tevinter-centered game taking into account that you'd most likely need to be able to be someone with great power and influence in some playthroughs -human mage becoming Magister- and someone with a very different story and no or little prospect for power - mundie or non-human-.Not to mention playing satisfyingly evil.
I want to point out that I'm not raising my hand.
^ I think they could do it if they wanted and they were willing to ignore some of the established norms they have built on for crafting the plot. I have no doubt that they will continue to keep using imports (now done through the DA Keep) to maintain world continuity for the individual player. That right there is a limitation to truly divergent story paths, including dramatic differences between good and evil choices.
There is also the issue of having multiple races and so on. It's not just about Bioware having the ability and writer competency to do this, but whether they want to do it in consideration of various factors.
This is what keeps the Old God Baby from being a truly significant plot point: he may not even exist for many players, including Bioware's own default canon that has an Ultimate Sacrifice Warden.
Honestly, the only thing I'm truly concerned about with Tevnter is if it will be another let down like Orlais was.
Honestly, the only thing I'm truly concerned about with Tevnter is if it will be another let down like Orlais was.
I'm conflicted about whether I want , if I had to choose between these two awful options , for Tevinter to be a) a side-line let down like Orlais or b ) a huge , explorable main-point city without letting us be Tevinter-y evil and powerhungry.
I'm tempted to go with a), simply because I'd just be able to blame it on incompetence rather than lack of will.
Lack of will would be more annoying, if we were that close to Tevinter.
Okay, raise your hands.
Who here believes that Bioware, with what we've seen so far can do justice to a Tevinter-centered game taking into account that you'd most likely need to be able to be someone with great power and influence in some playthroughs -human mage becoming Magister- and someone with a very different story and no or little prospect for power - mundie or non-human-.Not to mention playing satisfyingly evil.
I want to point out that I'm not raising my hand.
So, our reputation or riches or whatever will be in the gutter and we'll have to claw our way out of the ranks of the destitute just like all the other plebs, only with a fancy surname to flash at people. That's what I imagine.
sacrificing babies without facing consequences.
Meh.
As for the second...come oooooooooooon, it's a baby...what's it going to do? Through its pacifier at us? There shouldn't be any consequence for that...<.<
What I want, primarily, for a game set in Tevinter is for it to have the tone I've come to associate with Tevinter. And I think the word I would use to describe that tone would be: excess, excess decadence, excess power, excess passion. Everything about Tevinter seems larger than life. The pride of their magisters started the Blights, their capital has withstood those blights, Andraste, the Qunari, four Exalted Marches (the Qunari withstood 3 I think when they first invaded), they sank an entire city into the ground, they have cool lore like Tiana of the Rock and they spawned Corypheus etc.
So I want a story that's in line with all of that, epic and maybe just a weeee bit OTT. Patrick Weekes has impressed me pretty consistently, he wrote my favorite plotlines in ME3 and the most interesting characters (not necessarily likeable) in DAI. Solas especially is an epic villain. And the setting/environmental art obviously also has to reflect this but I'm not really concerned about that.
I definitely think Bioware is capable of writing this kind of story, whether it's what they'll focus is an entirely different matter.
I think if there is a very priveleged background like you'd expect of a Tevinter noble(wo)man, we'll prooobably crash and burn early in the game, like the Cousland and Aeducan Wardens did. It's hard to envision a game where you start at the top and.. stay... at the top? So, our reputation or riches or whatever will be in the gutter and we'll have to claw our way out of the ranks of the destitute just like all the other plebs, only with a fancy surname to flash at people. That's what I imagine.
As for morality, I suspect we'll creep into DA2 territory, where it was more about survival. So, you could play someone who is cutthroat and ruthless and has high ambitions (e.g., the Magisterium), but probably not someone who is butt-clenchingly Stupid Evil and goes around sacrificing babies without facing consequences.
Meh.
As for the second...come oooooooooooon, it's a baby...what's it going to do? Through its pacifier at us? There shouldn't be any consequence for that...<.<
Hmmmm, maybe it's those mysterious people from over the sea again...It's in WoT2, some Seekers went to check it out after the mage-templar war and (I'm assuming) the Breach and they found it abandoned with no signs of violence. ~makes X-File noise~
As for the second...come oooooooooooon, it's a baby...what's it going to do? Through its pacifier at us? There shouldn't be any consequence for that...<.<
What I want, primarily, for a game set in Tevinter is for it to have the tone I've come to associate with Tevinter. And I think the word I would use to describe that tone would be: excess, excess decadence, excess power, excess passion. Everything about Tevinter seems larger than life. The pride of their magisters started the Blights, their capital has withstood those blights, Andraste, the Qunari, four Exalted Marches (the Qunari withstood 3 I think when they first invaded), they sank an entire city into the ground, they have cool lore like Tiana of the Rock and they spawned Corypheus etc.
If the game has themes touching on Qunari invasion and the whole Solas conflict it would be interesting to have to make morally ambiguous choices, the needs of the many, and so on. I would quite like that. The world is full of horrible things. Leaders have to make crappy and difficult choices. That is one thing I did greatly appreciate about DA2. It's not reasonable from a game perspective to expect that the PC will start at the top and stay there. Part of the game is making progress, advancing in power, etc.
Hmmmm, maybe it's those mysterious people from over the sea again...
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