Yes please. Decadent, rich, gothic flavor. Tevinter supposedly has no reserve in love and in war, I hardly expect it in anything else.
As much as I love Dorian -- and you know I do -- some of his lines like that seem a bit hyperbolic. At the end-game party, he calls a best friend Inquisitor his "best and only friend." I think it's more an indication of how passionate HE is in general. Then again, I do expect the Tevinters to be more volatile as a people than, say, Fereldens.
Yes, I can't imagine any game that has Tevinter standing for "free" Thedas versus the Qunari with their medicine and no slavery and distinct lack of racism will ever be black and white. I'm really looking forward to whatever they decide to do. I haven't been disappointed yet; not in any way that matters, so I trust Bioware here.
I rly love gray and gray morality, y'all. I like it when it's not so simple.
I'll buy that the qunari lack racism when we see a non-qunari in a leadership position. I also suspect that what we'll get is black and gray.
As Long As It Sounds Foreign.
This doesn't just come up with Tevene, anyway. Leliana's not anOrlesianFrench name (or a real one, for that matter). Dorian is Greek. Fenris is Norse. I think as long as it sounds vaguely aristocratic and not completely out of place in hodgepodge medieval fantasy Byzantine, they just roll with it.
As much as I love Dorian -- and you know I do -- some of his lines like that seem a bit hyperbolic. At the end-game party, he calls a best friend Inquisitor his "best and only friend." I think it's more an indication of how passionate HE is in general. Then again, I do expect the Tevinters to be more volatile as a people than, say, Fereldens.
I'll buy that the qunari lack racism when we see a non-qunari in a leadership position. I also suspect that what we'll get is black and gray.
It's funny, isn't it? We crack our skulls trying to find a name that is perfectly aligned with the lore but the writers themselves don't care that much.
I mainly play elves and always look up Tolkien names or even try a Sindarin name generator. But Mahariel is the name of a pagan angel and Lavellan means mouse or something like that.
Alright, that's an exaggeration. But I doubt it'll be quite that cut and dry, simply because they've been humanizing the Qunari for ages - not the Qun itself, but the people there, and the fact that none of them are starving on the streets. We'll probably contrast that with slums in Minrathous or the life of the less, erm, "favored" slaves. And then they'll turn around and lobotomize people and we'll be back to square one.
It really depends on what kind of background we're expected to have. We really have no idea at this point. Maybe they'll plop us all on Seheron and say, "Good luck figurin' it out, suckers!"
I have a strong suspicion that many of those who would be starving on the streets in other nations are qamek laborers under the Qun. Though maybe that's a bit cynical.
They could make white the faction's main colour.. Most my pc are in dashing white robes gives a sense of enlightenment
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I CANNOT wait for the quest that takes us to the hidden Elven temple in Arlathan.
I think Arlathan may or may not happen.
All that seems likely, so far, is the Solas location.
They could very well save Arlathan for DA5. Solas isn't the whole elven story, after all.
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I can get behind a Dragon Age 4 set in Tevinter. Might finally break out a mage protagonist.
Hope they tighten up the storytelling and go back to the Origins model of character customization though.
God, I hope not. I'm getting really sick of having Ferelden and the Free Marches being the birthplace of all the heroes. I would take a Tevinter over another freaking Ferelden any day of the week.
Don't get me wrong, I love those two places, but there's other spots in Thedas where people are born. Let's look at one of those spots now.
DAO - Ferelden (varied) in Ferelden
DA2 - Ferelden (common) in the Free Marches
DAI - Free Marcher (varied) in the South (Ferelden and Orlais, moreso Orlais)
DA4 - ?
If they want to make a pattern, we'll have something like a Orlesian with a non-Orlesian accent ('French' = will be turn off, according to marketing, imo) and possibly other details. Or basically, a 'Southerner'.
Or potentially, a southerner slave, carrying the 'south's story' with them (with another angle than the Inquisitor had).
This doesn't mean a native born Ferelden, to be clear. And the story will probably be primarily Tevinter.
Free marches is THE dump of Thedas. I CANNOT wait to be rid of that place.
/rant
Hmm, I didn't get that impression. I thought Kirkwall was a dump of a major city on Thedas (for several reasons, and only being the 'capital' due to already existing foundations set by Tevinter and its location), but the Free Marches were actually pretty good, especially for being more a bunch of individual city-states.
It is Ferelden that is widely considered to be the dump of Thedas. One may be able to compare Denerim to most Free March cities and the latter ones may actually be better places for most to live in. Even in more recent history and optimism about new royalty, there's been the recovery from the Blight and the disaster of the Breach and proximity to other conflicts too, likely minimizing the region's potential until now.
Ferelden kinda languishes and is fine with it as long as they get to be Ferelden. Don't let the more barren and socially problematic location of Kirkwall, or places like the nearby dry mountains, taint your opinion of the whole place.
The Free Marches may be a more frequently chaotic place to live compared to Ferelden (which sure, did have the bigger events of a Civil War and the recent Blight, but the Marches have more bandits and is less unified), but it has a more well-off population due to better trade and not having been at the bidding of Orlais for so long (Ferelden was more like a colony to extract from). As the breadbasket of Thedas and middle-area between many regions, it appears to be THE place to start up and make a living, with the least larger-scale complications to that. That's not a 'dump'. Ferelden is more the place where one settles in and doesn't leave, even as it relatively sucks to stay, more than any major region in Ferelden. What it does have for it is that sure, it doesn't (technically) have the worst of other regions. It doesn't have the Qun expansion, Tevinter slavery, Antiva assassinations, Rivain spookiness(?), Orlais gaming, etc. But it is overall the poorest place for more people to live.
That said, I found the Free Marches boring as hell and I'd only take a return there if it was Kirkwall in a DLC (not main game) or the rest of the Free Marches as only part of a super larger game, or both. I don't think I'd enjoy a game that focused on it (non-DLC) again.
I think it would be a massively wasted opportunity not to have us be an Imperial denizen if the game takes place there, previous games be danged.
Would you accept a compromise in us having a character that becomes a citizen but wasn't before, and has some sort of connection to the region (not necessarily like Hawke's family history, but something else)?
Free marches and its individual cities has been destroyed so many times the marchers have lost count.
And they still do better than Fereldens.
I think it would interesting of the pc is in a arranged marriage at some point either to keep power and wealth in the fam or just brokering alliances
I think it'd be interesting if this happened and it was an actual romance option. Like it starts as an "opportunity" after you've been playing for a while and possibly fallen for another LI, but the benefits are so important you have to consider it. And if you go through with it, you might stay faithful and you might step out with your first love interest. And either way, the arranged marraige person is a real person and a full fledged LI themselves, who you may or may not come to like, if you give them a shot.
... Ok yeah, that's a pie in the sky level kinda scenario. lol
Hmm, I didn't get that impression. I thought Kirkwall was a dump of a major city on Thedas (for several reasons, and only being the 'capital' due to already existing foundations set by Tevinter and its location), but the Free Marches were actually pretty good, especially for being more a bunch of individual city-states.
It is Ferelden that is widely considered to be the dump of Thedas. One may be able to compare Denerim to most Free March cities and the latter ones may actually be better places for most to live in. Even in more recent history and optimism about new royalty, there's been the recovery from the Blight and the disaster of the Breach and proximity to other conflicts too, likely minimizing the region's potential until now.
Ferelden kinda languishes and is fine with it as long as they get to be Ferelden. Don't let the more barren and socially problematic location of Kirkwall, or places like the nearby dry mountains, taint your opinion of the whole place.
The Free Marches may be a more frequently chaotic place to live compared to Ferelden (which sure, did have the bigger events of a Civil War and the recent Blight, but the Marches have more bandits and is less unified), but it has a more well-off population due to better trade and not having been at the bidding of Orlais for so long (Ferelden was more like a colony to extract from). As the breadbasket of Thedas and middle-area between many regions, it appears to be THE place to start up and make a living, with the least larger-scale complications to that. That's not a 'dump'. Ferelden is more the place where one settles in and doesn't leave, even as it relatively sucks to stay, more than any major region in Ferelden. What it does have for it is that sure, it doesn't (technically) have the worst of other regions. It doesn't have the Qun expansion, Tevinter slavery, Antiva assassinations, Rivain spookiness(?), Orlais gaming, etc. But it is overall the poorest place for more people to live.
That said, I found the Free Marches boring as hell and I'd only take a return there if it was Kirkwall in a DLC (not main game) or the rest of the Free Marches as only part of a super larger game, or both. I don't think I'd enjoy a game that focused on it (non-DLC) again.
Ferelden has a basic culture and its not particularly a "clean" place, that's why its called dump. The good thing about Ferelden is its probably the most carefree nation in Thedas, people really don't care about anything as long as their daily lives are not interrupted. They rather be free than be "culturally advanced". Yeah David Gaider confirmed the loose resemblance to England during Roman reign (or Ireland, or Scotland). Although Ironically Ferelden has one of the most advanced political system in Thedas, while still having basic rules such as trial by combat. There is actually sparks of democracy in Ferelden, given the game is based on feudal age its pretty impressive.
Free Marchers have always bitten more than they can chew, they have declared war three times on Tevinter and it has never ended well for them. While it has fertile lands, it probably had most deaths in history. So its not particularly safe.
Ferelden has potential, it *almost banished Chantry as a whole when it took Orlais's side and called invasion of Ferelden just. Granted it didn't happen but that's how much the people of Ferelden value their freedom. They are willing to sacrifice everything for it.
Yeah long as it's not a relative it's workableI think it'd be interesting if this happened and it was an actual romance option. Like it starts as an "opportunity" after you've been playing for a while and possibly fallen for another LI, but the benefits are so important you have to consider it. And if you go through with it, you might stay faithful and you might step out with your first love interest. And either way, the arranged marraige person is a real person and a full fledged LI themselves, who you may or may not come to like, if you give them a shot.
... Ok yeah, that's a pie int he sky level kinda scenario. lol
Yeah David Gaider confirmed the loose resemblance to England during Roman reign (or Ireland, or Scotland). Although Ironically Ferelden has one of the most advanced political system in Thedas, while still having basic rules such as trial by combat. There is actually sparks of democracy in Ferelden, given the game is based on feudal age its pretty impressive.
Well England did end up developing the Magna Carta in 1215, which was ultimately integral to the development of many republics and democracies today, so its not *that* surprising that Ferelden is going the same route. Also, I think Scotland and/or Ireland did something like elect their kings back in the middle ages, didn't they?
Would you accept a compromise in us having a character that becomes a citizen but wasn't before, and has some sort of connection to the region (not necessarily like Hawke's family history, but something else)?
Well England did end up developing the Magna Carta in 1215, which was ultimately integral to the development of many republics and democracies today, so its not *that* surprising that Ferelden is going the same route. Also, I think Scotland and/or Ireland did something like elect their kings back in the middle ages, didn't they?
Kinda
I have a strong suspicion that many of those who would be starving on the streets in other nations are qamek laborers under the Qun. Though maybe that's a bit cynical.
The Qunari let nothing go to waste, so it's probably not as cynical as you think 
Yes please. Decadent, rich, gothic flavor. Tevinter supposedly has no reserve in love and in war, I hardly expect it in anything else.
This, coupled with the thread title, just gives me this image of people standing around in Ferelden/Orlais, chatting about nothing, and then they hear THUD... THUD... THUD... and it just gets louder and they all collectively go "Aw, craaap. Tevinter is coming." And then the next thing you know there's a giant parade of elephants decked out in gold and silk and jewels and all these Tevinter people are on the elephants eating bonbons and wearing all kinds of lace and silk and expensive things, and of course Dorian is in the front going "WE'RE HEEEEEEEERE!!"
Yes please. Decadent, rich, gothic flavor. Tevinter supposedly has no reserve in love and in war, I hardly expect it in anything else.
If there is any empire more decadent than Orlais, it would be Tevinter 
This, coupled with the thread title, just gives me this image of people standing around in Ferelden/Orlais, chatting about nothing, and then they hear THUD... THUD... THUD... and it just gets louder and they all collectively go "Aw, craaap. Tevinter is coming." And then the next thing you know there's a giant parade of elephants decked out in gold and silk and jewels and all these Tevinter people are on the elephants eating bonbons and wearing all kinds of lace and silk and expensive things, and of course Dorian is in the front going "WE'RE HEEEEEEEERE!!"
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