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[raging_monkey]

Regardless its moot til we find out and then it causes a fan war on buck teeth or gender

[raging_monkey]

That or someone complain about pandering, its not my inquisitor, thats bad li or, how ea has finally killed bioware

[Xilizhra]

I didn't want to call Cass, Viv, or Leiliana politicians so much as point out that their respective positions should have them in the back, leading their personal branches of the Inquisition. That they do (occasionally, in Leliana's case) accompany us is mostly Gameplay and Story Segregation for the player's benefit, to experience their arcs.

 

Still have to disagree on both Maevaris and Dorian being Advisors. Aren't two pro-reform Tevinter Mages providing the exact same function a bit redundant? How does that provide any contrast from a thematic or gameplay perspective?

 

I get it, you really want Capernia. While I don't dislike the character, she just never struck me as interesting as other possibilities.

My preference would be that Dorian remain mostly offscreen, with Maevaris being the main adviser. Aside from the fact that I don't really like recurring companions, Dorian was David Gaider's baby and I'd rather he not be extensively written by someone else. Plus the redundancy.

[raging_monkey]

Cole was gaiders and weekes played with him and imo made him better. With weekes head honcho. The series will be fine and characters more fun

[Walter Black]

My preference would be that Dorian remain mostly offscreen, with Maevaris being the main adviser. Aside from the fact that I don't really like recurring companions, Dorian was David Gaider's baby and I'd rather he not be extensively written by someone else. Plus the redundancy.

 

Fair enough.

[Daerog]

I'm pretty sure it wasn't, actually. We certainly heard nothing about the aristocracy as a whole being abolished.

Of course the classes remained, but you did have mundanes in the magisterium.

Looking over WoT, it was because mundanes could be the equivalent of grand clerics in Hessarian's reformed Theocratic Empire. This changed when the Altus regained power and joined the new faith and then the Circle dominated political and religious life.

So, I guess there wasn't much advancement outside Hessarian's Chantry for mundanes, but at least mundanes were seated in the magisterium for a while.

Edit: so, ya, not much meritocracy I guess. Even now, when a civil war is sparked because a talented mage doesn't have the right genealogy.

[Walter Black]

One thing that's been noted about Maevaris is that she, unlike Krem, has the money, resources, and will to use magic to fully transition. So why hasn't she? Does she have any lingering doubts? Does she not want to use blood magic and be labled a hypocrite, damning her reforms by association? Given that transitioning would be an extremely rare magical study in Tevinter, does Mae face legitimate health risks? All three?

 

Whether Maevaris is an Advisor or full Companion, I personally would prefer these questions be addressed in a potential romance quest, rather than her main personal quest to avoid comparrisons with Dorian. If I were writing her, I have Mae's personal quest revolve around her idealismn of Tevinter reform, versus the bloody reality, and how far she is willing to go.

 

Of course, the real question regarding if Maevaris will magically transition or not is whether Bioware will be allowed the time and resources to animate two different bodies for her.

[raging_monkey]

Could just hand wave it maybe ranma 1/2 it

[Daerog]

If Mae wanted to transition, if such a thing can be done in Thedas, she would have done it already.

[raging_monkey]

If Mae wanted to transition, if such a thing can be done in Thedas, she would have done it already.

or just never had time she's quick to get even

[Daerog]

or just never had time she's quick to get even

I guess. She's been dealing with rivals ever since her dad was killed.

[raging_monkey]

Yeah my kind of gal

[Xilizhra]

One thing that's been noted about Maevaris is that she, unlike Krem, has the money, resources, and will to use magic to fully transition. So why hasn't she? Does she have any lingering doubts? Does she not want to use blood magic and be labled a hypocrite, damning her reforms by association? Given that transitioning would be an extremely rare magical study in Tevinter, does Mae face legitimate health risks? All three?

 

Whether Maevaris is an Advisor or full Companion, I personally would prefer these questions be addressed in a potential romance quest, rather than her main personal quest to avoid comparrisons with Dorian. If I were writing her, I have Mae's personal quest revolve around her idealismn of Tevinter reform, versus the bloody reality, and how far she is willing to go.

 

Of course, the real question regarding if Maevaris will magically transition or not is whether Bioware will be allowed the time and resources to animate two different bodies for her.

Well, she might be pre-transitioned when the game begins.

 

 

or just never had time she's quick to get even

Or her husband preferred her original body.

[nightscrawl]

One thing that's been noted about Maevaris is that she, unlike Krem, has the money, resources, and will to use magic to fully transition. So why hasn't she? Does she have any lingering doubts? Does she not want to use blood magic and be labled a hypocrite, damning her reforms by association? Given that transitioning would be an extremely rare magical study in Tevinter, does Mae face legitimate health risks? All three?
 
Whether Maevaris is an Advisor or full Companion, I personally would prefer these questions be addressed in a potential romance quest, rather than her main personal quest to avoid comparrisons with Dorian. If I were writing her, I have Mae's personal quest revolve around her idealismn of Tevinter reform, versus the bloody reality, and how far she is willing to go.
 
Of course, the real question regarding if Maevaris will magically transition or not is whether Bioware will be allowed the time and resources to animate two different bodies for her.

I'd prefer to not turn this thread into an elaborate discussion on Maevaris's hypothetical transition... All I'll say about it is that not ALL trans people want to fully transition. It's not only about money and resources. For some, it may only be enough to live their life as whichever gender, which Mae does do. We don't know what goes on in her mind or how she views the whole thing. Every trans person will have a different take on their own body and how that relates to their status as a trans individual.

[Walter Black]

I never said whether or not Maevaris completely transitions is bad. I brought up potential uncertainty because both David Gaider and Patrick Weekes said Mae had issues with her body. No, I can't recall where right at the moment and will have to look into it.

[Daerog]

Ok, let's talk about how cool the first Archon was and if the Ferryman is real, like a guardian spirit of Tevinter, or not.

http://dragonage.wik...m/wiki/Darinius

The Ferryman has been the sign of the Archon for centuries, if it wasn't manifested by a spirit then, could a spirit have taken its role now?

[nightscrawl]

So, is he like, essentially flashing everyone when he raises his left arm, or what?

 

Spoiler

[raging_monkey]

So, is he like, essentially flashing everyone when he raises his left arm, or what?

Spoiler

Spoiler

Archon: my d!#$ is bigger than yours * the archon said musically

Divine: ive seen bigger the maker sates my needs * the divine said blowing him a kiss teasingly as she walked away staring at his member*

Yeah i thought about it lol

[raging_monkey]

And another

Spoiler

achon: good to cut loose summer heat is horrid.

Cat: bro nobody wants to see that ya wrinkly bastard * cat looks away in disgust*

[Xilizhra]

I'd prefer to not turn this thread into an elaborate discussion on Maevaris's hypothetical transition... All I'll say about it is that not ALL trans people want to fully transition. It's not only about money and resources. For some, it may only be enough to live their life as whichever gender, which Mae does do. We don't know what goes on in her mind or how she views the whole thing. Every trans person will have a different take on their own body and how that relates to their status as a trans individual.

Perhaps not, but it would be strongly advisable were she to be a romance option. As someone who is trans, I wouldn't romance her unless she at least handled the top half.

 

In any case, if such a dedicated thread was made, it'd be eaten by trolls very swiftly. We can actually discuss it in peace here.

[raging_monkey]

You know thats n7phantom level of danger... I mean granted we are all friends (yes i consider you a friend xil and respect opinion) but best keep it groups cause the opposition will go ham and get us locked.

Trans topics last 12 replies average before they devolve and such. Id prefer grepher not chime in or other rabid fans from both sides bring their pissing contest here. (I already peed on the walls anyway)

[The Ascendant]

Didn't Dana mention that the Tevinters have genealogies of all the families with magic? Wouldn't it be interesting to uncover those records and make some world shattering discovery.

[Gervaise]

My money would be on some world shattering discovery about the father of Darinius.   In the history given about him in World of Thedas, only his mother and uncle are mentioned but not his father.   Livia was high queen of the kingdom of Tevinter and a priestess of Razikale, whilst his uncle wasn't even a mage.   It seems peculiar to me that his father isn't even mentioned in their history of him, considering how much importance that Tevinter places on ancient bloodlines.  

 

Failing that, I'd go for simply discovering that at least some of the Altus families actually trace to elven Dreamers rather than human ones.   My own pet theory is that all human mages trace to elf blooded children somewhere back in time because that is essentially how magic got into the human race.   May be they were followers of Fen'Harel who fled the wrath of the other elves and sought refuge with the human tribes, intermarrying and losing the outward appearance of their race as a result, but the Tevinter insistence on breeding for magic and focussing on a small number of Altus bloodlines was sufficient to keep "the magic in the blood" concentrated.

 

One aspect of the Ferryman's abilities that seems largely to have been lost is the ability to communicate with animals and birds.   Leliana uses ravens as messenger birds (clearly taken from Game of Thrones) but so far as I can tell she doesn't actually speak with them or they to her.    Darinius was able to charm animals and use them as agents and spies (or so it is claimed).   The ravens and cats that supported him were said to be so effective it made it appear as though he could predict the future.   Of course he could have been using the presence of the animals to shield his actual human spies from discovery but it would still be interesting to know if this was an actual ability he possessed.   Alternatively, I suppose, it could have been animals possessed by spirits, like kitty in DAO.    I wonder if the current Archon's liking for cats stems from a desire to try and make himself appear like the Ferryman of old or if it is simply a case that he wanted company and cats are the only companions that he can completely trust.

[The Ascendant]

Humans getting magic from mating with Elves always made the most sense for me at least. It is a bit like Game of Thrones in regards to the First Men and the Children of the Forest.

[Hellion Rex]

Meh, I'm not sold on the elves giving magic to humans theory really.