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[GoldenGail3]

So. Do you think they wear sandals in Tevinter? I

Probably, considering it's a hot climate. 

[raging_monkey]

You mean a double Archdemon invasion? I hope my canon warden dies this time around though...

And Archdemons can help people? Huh, that's a new prospect.

I was going off flemeths quote "perhaps I am a dragon"

But yeah we need a reset button reduce everything to zero... If not for laughs

[raging_monkey]

I think the devs said that they wouldn't go by the path of "putting two Archdemons together and calling it a Super-Blight" so I don't see that happening.

In fact I expect to save at least one of them, preferably Raz. I doubt they are mean when They're not corrupted, OGB Kieran was more polite than human Kieran.


I rather think she'd be blonde/dark haired, red hair is a trait more common on the south and her prison is near Tevinter.

blonde and blue eyed goddess... Yes please

And I think kierans tranquil honestly or aleast thread equalvelent of autistic

[nightscrawl]

So. Do you think they wear sandals in Tevinter? I'm tired of soggy, freezing Ferelden and their sodding boots! And Orlesian frippery, bah! My toes gotta breathe. I want to see some gladiator sandals, the ankle-length ones and the ones that go up past your knees.

If anyone wears socks with sandals in Tevinter I just assume they're excommunicated by the Black Divine.

Yes please. Let's see those legs!

[Fredward]

If there are sandals in Tevinter I'd want someone to be wearing socks/hose/whatever with theirs and then I'd also want the option of killing them.

[straykat]

Paarthurnax was great; talking with him about the possible dissolution of this age in order to bring forth the next one, Alduin defying his destiny as World-Eater in order to rule, completely understand why the Blades would fear him as a dragon due to his nature.

Paarthurnax lives.

 

It's kind of interesting that the Greybeards (Nords) end up being the dragon defenders here... while the imperial legacy (Blades) is anti-dragon. I'm still trying to figure that out... why the Greybeards are more Akatosh based. Rather than Shor.

 

 

Also, this thread bumped quickly in a few hours. 

[straykat]

Fantasy circles have always had a fascination with dragons. I don't know why.

 

There's actually an interesting documentary about it... I forgot what it was called. Someone actually analyzed the subject and disparity with the culture at large.

 

It has nothing to do with evil though. That's the same silly thing evangelicals accused D&D fans of in the 80s. A lot of fantasy fans are just nice housewives, with dragon knickknacks on their shelves

[GoldenGail3]

It's kind of interesting that the Greybeards (Nords) end up being the dragon defenders here... while the imperial legacy (Blades) is anti-dragon. I'm still trying to figure that out... why the Greybeards are more Akatosh based. Rather than Shor.

They were disobeying the very person who told them not to kill Paar in the first place (Tribis Setpum) . Didn't the Blades write these things down?

[straykat]

They were disobeying the very person who told them not to kill Paar in the first place. Didn't the Blades write these things down?

 

At that point, it becomes bigger than the dragonborn in their eyes. The whole point of the blades for thousands of years has been the extermination of dragons... they're gonna stick to that principle, even if their Chosen One parts ways.

 

What I find ironic about it though that they ended up as more "Shor" and Nord like than the Greybeards. It's traditional for Nords to hate everything to do with dragons. And elves. Elves and dragons alike

[GoldenGail3]

At that point, it becomes bigger than the dragonborn in their eyes. The whole point of the blades for thousands of years has been the extermination of dragons... they're gonna stick to that principle, even if their Chosen One parts ways.

 

What I find ironic about it though that they ended up as more "Shor" and Nord like than the Greybeards. It's traditional for Nords to hate everything to do with dragons. And elves. Elves and dragons alike

But they can't survive without the Dragonborn - their purpose is utterly useless without them - becuase their the only ones that can kill the dragons in the first place. 

[straykat]

But they can't survive without the Dragonborn - their purpose is utterly useless without them - becuase their the only ones that can kill the dragons in the first place. 

 

Sure, they can. They trace their roots to the Akaviri. And just dragon hunting in general. They had another purpose to seek dragonborn, and were the ones to cross the sea and crown a dragonborn emperor for the first time. But their main purpose before that was dragon hunting.

[IHaveReturned1999]

The fact I'm an actual girl gamer and that you pretend to be one disgusts me.

You give me butterflies!!!

[GoldenGail3]

Sure, they can. They trace their roots to the Akaviri. And just dragon hunting in general. They had another purpose to seek dragonborn, and were the ones to cross the sea and crown a dragonborn emperor for the first time. But their main purpose before that was dragon hunting.

True. 

[straykat]

Kind of a shame to not have them though. Those were two of their big actors and Esbern was in the trailer.

 

 

Funnily, the guy who did Paarthurnax is the same guy who voices Mario. lol. So it'd be a shame to kill him too.

[Bayonet Hipshot]

Any reason in particular?

I think Calpernia may show up in Tevinter, perhaps as a companion (since we never see her die).

 

Here is what I would like for DA4:-

 

1) Calpernia as companion and love interest. Maevaris as a companion.The possibility to make Dorian an Archon. Perhaps have an Ambassadoria Dwarf and ex-slave assassins (Tevinter employs those) as companions as well and maybe a proper Tal-Vashoth along the way. 

 

2) Discover just how much of Tevinter is nicked from the Ancient Elves. I would not be surprised to learn that ancient Tevinter mages learned Blood Magic from Elves in Arlathan. I would also not be surprised to learn that it was not Tevinter who destroyed Arlathan by sinking it to the Earth, but rather the Arlathan Elves and Tevinter Mages were fighting and somehow reawakened a Titan that swallowed Arlathan whole, either to protect it or as a form of vengeance against the Evanuris, who killed some Titans, put them to sleep and made them forget.

 

3) Lessen the impact of slavery. I would hate it if slavery in Tevinter just magically vanished because of our future protagonist but I would love to see some form of Abolitionist Movement to rise in Tevinter because of our protagonist and that at least mages are no longer enslaved.

 

4) F*ck up the Qun hard. Not the average everyday Qunari, but the system called the Qun. Also, perhaps learn about why the Qunari were, as Corypheus put it:- "A mistake".

 

5) Visit Kal Sharok. Learn more about the Dwarves. Find out what Valta has been up to.

 

6) Resolve Solas' plotline and give the DAI protagonist an option for a middle ground (Elves retreat into the forests or into the Crossroads where the Veil has been slowly weakened to allow Elves to live properly again) with Solas, especially Lavellan.

 

7) Resolve the Weisshaupt Grey Warden plotline and have an actual Grey Warden veteran companion. Alistair was a fresh Grey Warden companion, Anders was a Grey Warden companion that left the order and Rainier is simply the longest serving Grey Warden recruit. It would be nice to get someone like Duncan or Riordan or Stroud as a companion.

 

8) The Imperial perspective on the Chant of Light and Andraste. Also, meet Razikale Dragon Cults.

 

9) Proper decadency and proper debauchery. We are going to Tevinter so I at least want proper whorehouses with hookers that use magic and what have you this time.

[straykat]

There's probably many abolitionist type of movements. Fenris said slaves rebel often.

 

They just fail. The place is supposed to be that hopeless.

[Bayonet Hipshot]

There's probably many abolitionist type of movements. Fenris said slaves rebel often.

 

They just fail. The place is supposed to be that hopeless.

 

Yes, well, hopefully the protagonist can make some of them a viable force to be reckoned with. DA protagonists have the ability to such things after all.

[IHaveReturned1999]

Yes, well, hopefully the protagonist can make some of them a viable force to be reckoned with. DA protagonists have the ability to such things after all.

And dismember as many slavers and magisters in sticky bloody bits as possible.

[straykat]

Yes, well, hopefully the protagonist can make some of them a viable force to be reckoned with. DA protagonists have the ability to such things after all.

 

True, although I wouldn't care to waste my time reforming them or anything like that. I'd rather destroy their society. lol. It's the Andrastian thing to do.

 

 

I end up agreeing with the above poster on certain things. I'm funny thay way.

[GoldenGail3]

Yes, well, hopefully the protagonist can make some of them a viable force to be reckoned with. DA protagonists have the ability to such things after all.

Ooh, yah. Although being a mage is my strong point. 

[The Elder King]

I think it'd be best to have low expectations on how much we'll be able to change or challenge the Imperium in DA4.

[straykat]

I think it'd be best to have low expectations on how much we'll be able to change or challenge the Imperium in DA4.

 

If the rest of the series is any indication, it might be extensive. Before DAI, I thought "Nah, they're not gonna let us change the Chantry or anything like that. They want some longevity to the setting", but I don't think that's the case anymore. They actually did it and let people do something as stupid as choosing a Divine. Among other things. Now we'll never see the South again.

 

But the same will happen up North eventually. Pretty soon there will be no more Dragon Age left.

[The Elder King]

If the rest of the series is any indication, it might be extensive. Before DAI, I thought "Nah, they're not gonna let us change the Chantry or anything like that. They want some longevity to the setting", but I don't think that's the case anymore. They actually did it and let people do something as stupid as choosing a Divine. Among other things.

The choice will be glossed over though. I doubt any choice Made in Inquisition, or Trespasser will affect the following games that much.
And the Chantry is a bit different then the Imperium and Orlais. The latter wasn't changed that much based on your choices.
And even if DAI did, it doesn't mean Da4 will give us that much degree of control. That's why it'd best to have low expectations if you care that much about changing Tevinter.

[straykat]

The changes to Orlais are pretty different. You'd have to account for a whole new elven sense of identity in Briala's version. Gaspard might be the easiest, since he's kind of just a defensive hawk and cares about borders. It doesn't sound like he changes society too much.

[Gervaise]

The elven identity changes only until such time as they take down the Inquisition.   The epilogue to the main game makes it quite clear that Briala is only there because of the backing of the Inquisitor and Inquisition in the state it was in at that time.    An Inquisition operating as a peace keeping force might be able to prevent the backlash against elves for what you did with Briala but I very much doubt that she would remain in power much after the Exalted Council.   Briala might well manage to escape with her life but the knives would be out and both she and her puppet Gaspard would fall.    Then back to the original status quo.   Hence the elves leaving in droves to join Solas because the changes that might have kept them loyal to Orlais have simply not survived the change.

 

Any other scenario does not result in enormous changes.   Celene would always be cautious with her reforms even with Briala at her side and every epilogue suggests that the rulers derive much of their strength from the Inquisition.    Gaspard as a sole ruler probably has the most promising outlook after the removal of the organisation as he pretty much wiped out his strongest opposition and has the backing of the Chevaliers.    As so often shown in our own world, if you have the backing of the military then you are pretty secure.   

 

As for Tevinter, they may well give us the opportunity to be kingmaker once more.    It would actually be refreshing if that wasn't the case but if there is any position that we could determine, Archon is the most likely one.    I'd rather we just get to observe how the whole Tevinter system of government works.    So attend a meeting of the Magisterium, see the Black Divine and experience what a place of worship is like in the Imperium.   Find out exactly what their version of the Chant contains and their record of the history of Andraste.   (It might not be any more the truth than the southern version but it would still be interesting to discover what the differences are).    

 

Most of all though, is I don't want to corruption and abuses of the ruling class against slaves and the lower orders whitewashed as they were in DAI.    You would think the Chevaliers were paragons of virtue from our dealings with them.    We were seeing them as the ruling class did, not the peasant population and certainly not the elves.   It is not just about showing blood magic abuse but demonstrating why people might be attracted to the Qun as an alternative to their current life.    I'd like to get back to the sort of origins we had in DAO.   There you could play a noble if you wished and only see events from their perspective but you could also play one of the lower orders, whether alienage elf or castless dwarf.    It is about time that they had a human origin where you are not a noble.   Even Hawke turned out to be of noble descent and so had an easy acceptance back into that society.    Let the majority who play as humans experience the other side of life where everything is stacked against you.  So whether we get to play other races or not, I'm all for being either a slave or a liberati next game.