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[Qun00]

While I don't expect to be able to change Tevinter entirely, we certainly will get the chance to improve it.

And to that end, a mage protagonist seems best. Someone who can set an example and represent the best a mage can be without the corruption that rules their society.

[raging_monkey]

Improve is relative I can improve register by being the ultimate good guy or I can improve it (more likly) by being a ass

[Qun00]

I don't see how.

[Qun00]

I thought that was painfully obvious with the demon summoning and blood sacrifices.

[IHaveReturned1999]

And they argued me down with insults and I'm simply making an observation.

[The Baconer]

It's cool. Satan's my dude.

[raging_monkey]

I was told to review rules ... On dying forum charming

[AlleluiaElizabeth]

I've decided to move to http://bsn.boards.net/ personally. Has the closest content layout to current BSN. 

 

And count me as with Vertigomez in the salt mine if we don't get an ambassadwarvian background option. lol

[Andromelek]

I was told to review rules ... On dying forum charming

I think that's why they're called modbots; it feels like an actual bot, that lacks of common sense was doing the job.

[SwobyJ]

While I don't expect to be able to change Tevinter entirely, we certainly will get the chance to improve it.

And to that end, a mage protagonist seems best. Someone who can set an example and represent the best a mage can be without the corruption that rules their society.

 

Every game has provided and will provide plenty enough reason to play any of the classes. Epic conflicts enough to Warrior, intrigue enough to Rogue, and magic enough to Mage. A shifting to (at least arguably) relatively more Mage than before, is no big deal.

 

I'd not mind, and maybe even love that. Though more and more ideas are popping up in my thoughts more about how a 'Rogue' 'emphasis' could happen into games going into Antiva/Rivain and/or Par Volen/Seheron. It'd have to get more Rogue somewhere around there, right? Sneaky sneaky pew pew trap setting map manipulating wooo.

 

It would be particularly interesting in a hypothetical Dragon Age future shaken up by battles (the first 2-3 games' times), and woken up by magic (DAI and DA4? More?). 'Rogues', setting-wise, could become anything up to the hackers of all of reality.

 

But not yet. Mage time! Lets be a Dreamer k.

[Gervaise]

Every class has its place in Tevinter society.    The Soporati are actually the biggest group numerically.    Many of the administrators and lower level government officials are going to be non-mages, as are the bulk of their military.   They also form the bulk of the merchant class.

 

Dorian says that Tevinter assassins are even more deadly than the Crows, so clearly there is at least one specialist rogue class that could have a standing in Tevinter.  With the number of dwarves around, I would imagine artificer would also be popular.    Given what Bull says about the activities of Tevinter agents on Seheron, may be they will combine the two specialism into a new class of Tevinter Saboteur, someone who works on behalf of the government to undermine enemy armies and outposts.   Such a person could equally use their skills to undermine their own government.

 

I am also hopeful for the return of the spirit warrior.   Surely there has to be room for a warrior discipline that actively seeks the help of friendly spirits in a place like Tevinter where using spirits is not frowned on as it is in the south.   A warrior would also have the advantage that they won't have been tainted in the eyes of spirits by using blood magic.    And given the prevalence of dragon cults still knocking around in Tevinter, the class of Reaver just has to be included (not that I actually use it myself).   I can definitely see a companion who is a true Reaver.   By that I mean they have actually gone through all the rituals like you had to in DAO.

 

I'm really hopeful that we will get some variety again in the classes we are offered or even some entirely new ones given how different attitudes in the north are so those in the south.

[Squinterific]

Every class has its place in Tevinter society.    The Soporati are actually the biggest group numerically.    Many of the administrators and lower level government officials are going to be non-mages, as are the bulk of their military.   They also form the bulk of the merchant class.

 

Dorian says that Tevinter assassins are even more deadly than the Crows, so clearly there is at least one specialist rogue class that could have a standing in Tevinter.  With the number of dwarves around, I would imagine artificer would also be popular.    Given what Bull says about the activities of Tevinter agents on Seheron, may be they will combine the two specialism into a new class of Tevinter Saboteur, someone who works on behalf of the government to undermine enemy armies and outposts.   Such a person could equally use their skills to undermine their own government.

 

Maybe Tevinter assassins are rogue-mage hybrids. That would be cool.

[nightscrawl]

I'm pretty keen to play an altus soporati and I really want that option in the next game. I want to see how they're treated, what it's stated that they do, and so on.

[Gervaise]

I wonder how good their chances of survival would be once it is discovered they aren't mages.   Felix's grandfather was going to have him killed simply for being a mage of negligible ability because of the perceived shame he brought on the family since he was "just barely more than a Soporati".     He only survived because his mother killed his grandfather first.   That made her husband head of House Alexius and thus in control of official family policy on the matter. 

 

May be they are just packed off the some distant relative and never talked about again, even if they aren't actually killed.    Then when they are old enough they are encouraged to enter the military and probably spend the rest of their life stuck on Seheron or some equally soul destroying place.  

 

In fact, considering their careful breeding programme among the Altus, do you suppose they ever produce pure Soporati, as opposed to simply weak mages?    Alternatively, may be you are instantly downgraded to the rank of Soporati, so again this would mean that officially there is no such thing as a non-mage Altus.   Just as mages cannot inherit the family title down south, so non-mages cannot inherit the Altus family title up north.

[The Baconer]

I'd imagine it wouldn't need to be so dire if the Altus weren't a horde of single children.

Silver lining: it'll make them easier to purge in the coming transfiguration

[Heimdall]

I'm pretty keen to play an altus soporati and I really want that option in the next game. I want to see how they're treated, what it's stated that they do, and so on.

That would be great, I'm still hoping for the qunari slave Mage option. I like the idea of being a character in a bad position, but still better than he would find elsewhere.

[nightscrawl]

I wonder how good their chances of survival would be once it is discovered they aren't mages.   Felix's grandfather was going to have him killed simply for being a mage of negligible ability because of the perceived shame he brought on the family since he was "just barely more than a Soporati".     He only survived because his mother killed his grandfather first.   That made her husband head of House Alexius and thus in control of official family policy on the matter. 

 

May be they are just packed off the some distant relative and never talked about again, even if they aren't actually killed.    Then when they are old enough they are encouraged to enter the military and probably spend the rest of their life stuck on Seheron or some equally soul destroying place.  

 

In fact, considering their careful breeding programme among the Altus, do you suppose they ever produce pure Soporati, as opposed to simply weak mages?    Alternatively, may be you are instantly downgraded to the rank of Soporati, so again this would mean that officially there is no such thing as a non-mage Altus.   Just as mages cannot inherit the family title down south, so non-mages cannot inherit the Altus family title up north.

 

I think too many of the posters on these forums are too rigid when it comes to things like this. Every family will be different. You can say the same about having a gay or trans child that doesn't want to "do their duty," but Mae's father was supportive of her, while Dorian's was not. Some children will be shunned, some will be ignored in favor of other children -- we only know of less than a handful of families with a single child, to suggest this is some trend is just silly -- some may in fact be sent off to distant relatives, and some will be loved.

 

As far as ever producing a soporati, I'd imagine it's uncommon, but I'm sure it happens. Genetics is all about percentages, and there is always a chance that you will get the undesired or alternate outcome, whether that be an unfortunate medical condition, or even having red hair when the last member of the family to have such was your great great great grandfather.

 

As far as the multiple children thing is concerned, you have to remember that all of the individuals we know about are significant characters or been involved in the plot in some way, so it is simply plot convenience that Dorian is an only child because of the issues it caused for him. The same applies to Felix and also Maevaris. Would things have been easier for those parents if they had multiple children? Certainly. But it would also have the effect of significantly reducing the drama for certain characters. If Dorian had a sibling, there likely would have been considerably less pressure on him, and thus his personal issues would have been lessened. It's all about the juicy drama.

[raging_monkey]

Wonder if there's such thing as magical diseases(not counting blight)

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[Squinterific]

And to that end, a mage protagonist seems best. Someone who can set an example and represent the best a mage can be without the corruption that rules their society.

 

A job for Magister Dorian Pavus and his Lucerni friends!