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[Frogtoad51]

I loved playing a templar in Origins so I plan on making my Inquisitor a templar. This leaves me with a dilemma.

 

After Kirkwall in DA2 and The White Spire in Asunder, I want to help the mages! On the other hand: I would rather have tough, dependable, knights of the order in my army than raw, undisciplined, mages and it will be far easier for me to fight the mages because I'm templar specced. 

 

Do I help the mages or do I sacrifice my principles for the sake of better allies and an easier battle? If Inquisition doesn't give me a neutral option this is gonna be a tough one...

[Lumix19]

Stick to your principles. Evangeline knew it was wrong to simply bow to Lambert. You can do it too.

[Magister Caedus]

There may well be a middle ground; there is a precedent for it in DA, and Bioware games in general. If not though, playing as a templar who sympathizes with the mages and helps them fight for their freedom could make for a fun role-playing experience.

*I might be a little biased, though*

[Icefalcon]

I suspect we'll discover it's not that straightforward. There are likely to be good and bad on both sides. For every Cullen a Meredith or Alrik and we've already seen from one of the trailers an associate of Dorian's is a bad guy in Recliffe

[bootyislovebootyislife]

I loved playing a templar in Origins so I plan on making my Inquisitor a templar. This leaves me with a dilemma.

 

After Kirkwall in DA2 and The White Spire in Asunder, I want to help the mages! On the other hand: I would rather have tough, dependable, knights of the order in my army than raw, undisciplined, mages and it will be far easier for me to fight the mages because I'm templar specced. 

 

Do I stay true to my desires or do I sacrifice my principles for the sake of better allies and an easier battle? If Inquisition doesn't give me a neutral option this is gonna be a tough one...

 

They said specialization would be story relevant, but I dont think this prevents you from playing how you want to play. I want to play a templar who wants to help mages (there were plenty of those in DA2), sure I mean roleplaying wise it'd make sense, since templars are very close to mages and live with them, they would know that they're not all bad.

 

As I see it, the only difference playing a templar and helping the mages will have is in dialogue like :

 

Quizzy speaking to mages - I'm here to help!

 

Mages - But aren't you a Templar? 

 

Quizzy - Yes.

 

End conversation

[Panda]

Hopefully our choices regarding templar vs mage war can be more shades of grey than just chosing one over other. I have always been in the middle so I disliked how I was forced to chose in the DA2.

[TheKomandorShepard]

Well you can pick army of highly trained knights specialized to fight demons and want bring order or army of corrupted mostly untrained power hungry/insane walking bombs that make demons only stronger and go for own desires not rly hard choice. 

[Master Warder Z_]

Pretty sure we pick one side and stick with it the rest of the game.

[Sifr]

Thrask was a great example of a pro-Mage Templar in DA2.

 

Even if his coup failed and he ended up getting killed by one of the people he was trying to help, you can't fault him for at least trying to get the two sides to work together and prove that it can work if you get the right people on your side. (Unfortunately for him, Grace wasn't tne of the right people).

 

I always wished he'd survived and we'd been able to side with him to oust Meredith.

[KoorahUK]

Decide what kind of Inquisitor is first.

 

Is s/he passionate and/or principled? Go with the heart - Mages in your case.

Is s/he logical and/or pragmatic? Go with the head - Templars in your case.

 

This is the essence of roleplaying I'm afraid and if it was easy it wouldn't be worth doing.

[TheKomandorShepard]

Thrask was a great example of a pro-Mage Templar in DA2.

 

Even if his coup failed and he ended up getting killed by one of the people he was trying to help, you can't fault him for at least trying to get the two sides to work together and prove that it can work if you get the right people on your side. Unfortunately for him, Grace wasn't tne of the right people.

 

I always wished he'd survived and we'd been able to side with him to oust Meredith.

I can he was dumb and an example everything what templar shouldn't be true templar and effective templar follows rule better safe than sorry this guy freed bunch of abomnations and kidnapped hawke brother/sister/friend for them and then was killed by them this is last kind of templar you want to protect you. 

[Xilizhra]

Decide what kind of Inquisitor is first.

 

Is s/he passionate and/or principled? Go with the heart - Mages in your case.

Is s/he logical and/or pragmatic? Go with the head - Templars in your case.

 

This is the essence of roleplaying I'm afraid and if it was easy it wouldn't be worth doing.

I think you can choose mages via logic as well.

[KoorahUK]

I think you can choose mages via logic as well.

Well true but this depends on the players interpretation of how their inquisitor thinks. OP said:

 

"On the other hand: I would rather have tough, dependable, knights of the order in my army than raw, undisciplined, mages and it will be far easier for me to fight the mages because I'm templar specced. "

 

This implies that they feel Templars would be the 'logical' choice rather than the emotive one. 

[Mistic]

Inquisition will likely provide a scenario for this dilemma, so then you will be able to see the two sides and their points.

 

Nevertheless, remember that class and specialization aside, the Inquisition does already have templars and seekers, those who are loyal to the Divine. Cullen and Cassandra are the most triumphant examples. They are the"dependable knights" you mention, those who try to do their job and save the world instead of taking part in the war. The same might be true for mages; after all, Vivienne is a Circle mage.

 

Another thing is which of the rebel factions you want to recruit. But they are that, rebel factions, not the entire group of mages or templars in Thedas.

[The Baconer]

It looks like the breach left only the total A-holes on both sides alive, so flip a coin.

[wcholcombe]

Contrary to DA2 there are plenty of templars who are not total nut job mage haters.

 

Most of the templars in DAO were very middle ground.

The templars who show up in Last Flight left the order because they disagreed with the leadership and its direction.

There is one templar in particular in last flight that has a very humanizing depiction of templars.

 

Also, you have to remember, or I guess read for those of you who haven't read Masked Empire, that the free Marches are considered Draconian in their treatment of mages even by the orlesians.

[Xilizhra]

Contrary to DA2 there are plenty of templars who are not total nut job mage haters.

Yes. They no longer serve the Order.

[Sir DeLoria]

Both sides are potentially very powerful, mages have incredibly powerful spells, but are frail and not as hardened and experienced as soldiers, in reality they'd be much more likely to loose moral, die of hunger, exhaustion or illness. Templars on the other hand may not offer the same cosmic powers, but are battle hardened, disciplined and experienced, they're the far more reliable force.

I'm definitely gonna play a Templar and will stay loyal to the order. But I'll try to be as middle ground as possible, if the game lets me.

[wcholcombe]

Both sides are potentially very powerful, mages have incredibly powerful spells, but are frail and not as hardened and experienced as soldiers, in reality they'd be much more likely to loose moral, die of hunger, exhaustion or illness. Templars on the other hand may not offer the same cosmic powers, but are battle hardened, disciplined and experienced, they're the far more reliable force.

I'm definitely gonna play a Templar and will stay loyal to the order. But I'll try to be as middle ground as possible, if the game lets me.

Loyal to the order or loyal to the chantry? Because the order doesn't appear to be very middle ground at the moment.

[Sir DeLoria]

Loyal to the order or loyal to the chantry? Because the order doesn't appear to be very middle ground at the moment.

Why not both? I know the order officially split, but with Lambert gone, it's not impossible to let the two rejoin.

And while the Templars aren't middle ground, I refuse to believe the remaining members of the order are all but raging lunatics (at least until the game comes out).

[wcholcombe]

Why not both? I know the order officially split, but with Lambert gone, it's not impossible to let the two rejoin.

And while the Templars aren't middle ground, I refuse to believe the remaining members of the order are all but raging lunatics (at least until the game comes out).

Possible, however, I am going to assume that the true middle grounders largely stayed loyal to the Divine and the Chantry and didn't follow Lambert's power grab.

[Xilizhra]

Why not both? I know the order officially split, but with Lambert gone, it's not impossible to let the two rejoin.

And while the Templars aren't middle ground, I refuse to believe the remaining members of the order are all but raging lunatics (at least until the game comes out).

They're fiends regardless and will be treated as such.

[Helios969]

Thrask.

Greatest Templar ever.

Seriously though OP there's no problem RPing a Templar and being promage.