Greatest Templar ever.
Seriously though OP there's no problem RPing a Templar and being promage.
But why would you? Mages are just Abominations in waiting or power mad Blood Mage aspirants unless they are under Templar scrutiny.
Team Templar. Save the World.
/runs
Evangeline is with the mages, other Templar have joined the faction based at Weisshaupt, and you have Cullens Templar supporting the Inquisition, so NO you do not have to play as one of Lamberts extremist Templar.
Personally I intend to play the game as I did DA2...there were some bad mages and bad Templar that I was only too happy to kill. I mainly played pro-Templar Hawke but supported the Mages in the endgame as they were innocent.
I get the feeling that we will meet good and bad examples of both mages and Templar once again...just go with the character that you have created as to how they'd react...oh and save game 
Evangeline is with the mages, other Templar have joined the faction based at Weisshaupt, and you have Cullens Templar supporting the Inquisition, so NO you do not have to play as one of Lamberts extremist Templar.
Personally I intend to play the game as I did DA2...there were some bad mages and bad Templar that I was only too happy to kill. I mainly played pro-Templar Hawke but supported the Mages in the endgame as they were innocent.
I get the feeling that we will meet good and bad examples of both mages and Templar once again...just go with the character that you have created as to how they'd react...oh and save game
Agreed. Hopefully there will be templars more along the lines of DAO then DA2, but we know there are a bunch of mages and templars in Redcliff that may all deserve to die.
I said may, it is entirely possible that something story wise indicates a reasoning for them turning it into their own personal playground.
Simple. Cull both sides and see which one has the most sane people afterwards. The spec is irrelevant to this choice.
Simple. Cull both sides and see which one has the most sane people afterwards. The spec is irrelevant to this choice.
Not if someone chooses to RP it as being loyal to the beliefs of the templars. Most don't, but some do.
The spec is irrelevant to this choice.
This is correct. You can be a Templar and still support the mages. Just how you can be a Knight Enchanter and still support the templars.
Simple. Cull both sides and see which one has the most sane people afterwards. The spec is irrelevant to this choice.
^ Only the guilty will meet the Inquisition with armed resistance.
Thrask was a great example of a pro-Mage Templar in DA2.
Even if his coup failed and he ended up getting killed by one of the people he was trying to help, you can't fault him for at least trying to get the two sides to work together and prove that it can work if you get the right people on your side. (Unfortunately for him, Grace wasn't tne of the right people).
I always wished he'd survived and we'd been able to side with him to oust Meredith.
You don't see a lesson in someone who trusted in mages being killed by mages?
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You don't see a lesson in someone who trusted insane mages being killed by insane mages?
FIFY. His daughter was an abomination and he let it slide. Grace and her Starkhaven splinter group were blood mages, and not the fuel-for-magic kind either. If the guy had an IQ higher then 4 he'd have done things differently.
FIFY. His daughter was an abomination and he let it slide.
Wouldn't it be more likely that she just went abomination the moment she lost all hope? I would have.
Simple. Cull both sides and see which one has the most sane people afterwards. The spec is irrelevant to this choice.
Not if someone chooses to RP it as being loyal to the beliefs of the templars. Most don't, but some do.
The beliefs of the Templars is to be loyal to the Chantry, not the Lord Seeker.
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Wouldn't it be more likely that she just went abomination the moment she lost all hope? I would have.
Hmmm true. He's still stupid for cutting her loose and sending her to Samson in the first place. I'd have sent her to Rivain or Ferelden.
^ Only the guilty will meet the Inquisition with armed resistance.
So, everyone is dead?
Clearly no, given the presence of both former Templars and mages present in the Inquisition at its formation.
Those who do not abandon their violent rebellions incriminate themselves and are spurned by the Maker. They will be cast into the void.
The beliefs of the Templars is to be loyal to the Chantry, not the Lord Seeker.
True, but you said the spec is irrelevant. That isn't correct if someone chooses to truly RP a templar character.
True, but you said the spec is irrelevant. That isn't correct if someone chooses to truly RP a templar character.
Except the Inquisitor isn't a Templar. They can't RP a character who was ever a part of the Templar Order. Even the human ones.
I loved playing a templar in Origins so I plan on making my Inquisitor a templar. This leaves me with a dilemma.
After Kirkwall in DA2 and The White Spire in Asunder, I want to help the mages! On the other hand: I would rather have tough, dependable, knights of the order in my army than raw, undisciplined, mages and it will be far easier for me to fight the mages because I'm templar specced.
Do I help the mages or do I sacrifice my principles for the sake of better allies and an easier battle? If Inquisition doesn't give me a neutral option this is gonna be a tough one...
What exactly does your spec have to do with your mindset? The powers are shown repeatedly not to bind you to viewing things the same way the Templar order does, and while most people who have the powers are sworn to obey the Templar Order I'm fairly sure you're going to learn it from Cullen, who is probably no longer a Templar due to being part of your group; therefore he's probably not going to make you swear anything. (I thought I read somewhere that he left the Templars in disgust with Meredith, but I can't find that now.)
Except the Inquisitor isn't a Templar. They can't RP a character who was ever a part of the Templar Order. Even the human ones.
Also this.
Agreed. You have the powers, yes, but not the membership.Except the Inquisitor isn't a Templar. They can't RP a character who was ever a part of the Templar Order. Even the human ones.
Agreed. You have the powers, yes, but not the membership.
What exactly does your spec have to do with your mindset? The powers are shown repeatedly not to bind you to viewing things the same way the Templar order does, and while most people who have the powers are sworn to obey the Templar Order I'm fairly sure you're going to learn it from Cullen, who is probably no longer a Templar due to being part of your group; therefore he's probably not going to make you swear anything. (I thought I read somewhere that he left the Templars in disgust with Meredith, but I can't find that now.)
Also this.
Except the Inquisitor isn't a Templar. They can't RP a character who was ever a part of the Templar Order. Even the human ones.
What business of it is yours what a player head canons their character to be. Playing your character as being a former templar or whatever and giving some meaning to a spec isn't the most outlandish bit of head canon I have seen on these forums.
As I said I doubt any great number do it, but I have read people talking about doing it in the previous games. They get creative about it. Its no different then the people who actually try to RP something into their character being a mage or blood mage when they are able to.
DAO allowed both a great deal more then DA2 did, but just because you don't do it doesn't mean others don't.
Good grief we have people who have head canoned out the entire existence of their warden and whomever the fling they ended the game with was for the rest of their lives.
You don't see a lesson in someone who trusted in mages being killed by mages?
This is pretty much dragon age major theme "don't trust mages or you will end poorly"
What business of it is yours what a player head canons their character to be.
It's the point of this thread? If you want to headcanon against the basis of the game, why even ask? The story doesn't even have to happen.
What business of it is yours what a player head canons their character to be. Playing your character as being a former templar or whatever and giving some meaning to a spec isn't the most outlandish bit of head canon I have seen on these forums.
As I said I doubt any great number do it, but I have read people talking about doing it in the previous games. They get creative about it. Its no different then the people who actually try to RP something into their character being a mage or blood mage when they are able to.
DAO allowed both a great deal more then DA2 did, but just because you don't do it doesn't mean others don't.
Good grief we have people who have head canoned out the entire existence of their warden and whomever the fling they ended the game with was for the rest of their lives.
The thing is that the OP seemed to believe that properly roleplaying a character with certain powers required them to roleplay a character with a certain mindset. What everyone you quoted is saying is that there is no necessary conflict there unless you headcanon one.
Greatest Templar ever.
Just to clarify when I say "it will be far easier for me to fight the mages because I'm templar specced" I mean that from a combat perspective not a mindset. I had mage killing down to an art in Origins.
Mage hunting tactics 101: Holy Smite thy foul wielder of magic from a distance and knock him to the ground before he has a chance to damage you from range. Close the distance and strike thy fragile wearer of robes with righteous fury. Cleanse aura should the apostate place any harmful glyphs nearby. Have friendly enchanter dispel any unholy buffs or de-buffs cast by the apostate. Stun with either pommel or shield to disrupt the apostate if he begins casting heavy magic.
Its a bit dated now, especially with the powerful new Silence ability the order has developed, but The Hero of Ferelden still has some good tips for new recruits to make use of.
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