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[Riverdaleswhiteflash]

Just to clarify when I say "it will be far easier for me to fight the mages because I'm templar specced" I mean that from a combat perspective not a mindset. I had mage killing down to an art in Origins.

 

Mage hunting tactics 101: Holy Smite thy foul apostate from a distance and knock him to the ground before he has a chance to damage you from range. Close the distance and strike thy fragile wearer of robes with righteous fury. Cleanse aura should the apostate decide to buff himself. Have friendly enchanter nearby to dispel any unholy debuffs placed upon you. Stun with either pommel or shield to disrupt apostate if he begins casting heavy magic.

 

Its a bit dated now, especially with the new Silence ability the order has developed, but The Hero of Fereleden still has some good tips for new recruits to make use of.

Well, then that's a harder question.

 

One thing I can tell you about whether to recruit the mages or the Templars: just because you can dispel magic with ease doesn't mean the demons can. The stronger ones can, certainly, but against anything weaker than a desire demon I think the mages aren't going to lose much effectiveness. Against a Pride demon they'll probably get wrecked, but then the Templars will have the same problem.

[TheKomandorShepard]

Sending mages against demons is pretty much doing that

 

I rly hope there is scene for those who picked mages to fight with demon where elder one says "thank you Inquisitor i will take those mages without hesitation"

[Riverdaleswhiteflash]

Sending mages against demons is pretty much doing that

 

I rly hope there is scene for those who picked mages to fight with demon where elder one says "thank you Inquisitor i will take those mages without hesitation"

Hence why I said "against anything weaker than a desire demon." Do try to keep up.

 

Edit: Also, if the Elder one hasn't already possessed the strongest member of the Venatori before the final battle, so as to better stand a chance against the PC, I will be shocked. I will be much less shocked if he did so before the game began under the reasonable assumption that he's not going to find anyone better. Either way, I doubt he's going to have much personal use for the bog-standard mages the Inquistor's going to have in his train.

[Razored1313]

To the OP, roleplay your character how you want to, right now I'm stuck between templar and reaver, and my in game justification for choosing templar if I do so is that the inquisition is trying to stop demons from entering the world, and demons use magic as well so training to have templar abilities would make logical sense no matter which side of the conflict you support, here is the description of the specialization

These unrelenting warriors specialize in fighting mages and demons. No enemy's magic can withstand them, and they inspire and protect their allies with their righteous power.

[Shadow Fox]

FIFY. His daughter was an abomination and he let it slide. Grace and her Starkhaven splinter group were blood mages, and not the fuel-for-magic kind either. If the guy had an IQ higher then 4 he'd have done things differently.

And how he tried to "recruit" Hawke was stupid.

 

"Oh yes I'll kidnap the sibling/friend/lover of one of the most influential people in Kirkwall who eats abominations and high dragons for breakfast and try to blackmail her into joining my coup it's the perfect plan."

 

[WarriorOfLight999]

Will play as a Templar, but use my powers to protect mages from demons, and try not to oppress them. After all, one can get the training, but not necessarily be fanatical to the Chantry.

[TTTX]

This is pretty much dragon age major theme "don't trust mages or you will end poorly"

More like don't trust anyone or it will end up poorly.

[Helios969]

But why would you? Mages are just Abominations in waiting or power mad Blood Mage aspirants unless they are under Templar scrutiny.

Team Templar. Save the World.



/runs

Hey if I can play a mage hating mage (one of my funest DA2 playthroughs) a mage loving Templar is a piece of cake. Really any kind of rationale works. Hypocrisy can be hilarious fun.

[Fiddles dee dee]

This is why you can play though multiple times.

 

I'd let it happen organically though, start by rolling on and then change your mind based on the specific circumstances that pop up in game.

[TheKomandorShepard]

Hence why I said "against anything weaker than a desire demon." Do try to keep up.

 

Edit: Also, if the Elder one hasn't already possessed the strongest member of the Venatori before the final battle, so as to better stand a chance against the PC, I will be shocked. I will be much less shocked if he did so before the game began under the reasonable assumption that he's not going to find anyone better. Either way, I doubt he's going to have much personal use for the bog-standard mages the Inquistor's going to have in his train.

It doesn't matter against which demons (especially that we deal with an invasion so we deal with pretty much all types of demons)  you don't send mages against demons simple of fact they are power up for them.Hell even those "weaker" kinds can be stronger than those higher in the hierarchy.

 

Well he will use mages to strengthen his army of demons but yet what the hell elder one is we have to see in game because it may be just powerful demon or complete different being.

 

 

More like don't trust anyone or it will end up poorly.

Nope only mages of course not trusting anyone is sane thing to do but sometimes you can trust someone mages never as they are unstable not mention that anyone can't destroy half world screaming "i will be god!" or "for elder one".

[Br3admax]

It doesn't matter against which demons (especially that we deal with an invasion so we deal with pretty much all types of demons)  you don't send mages against demons simple of fact they are power up for them.Hell even those "weaker" kinds can be stronger than those higher in the hierarchy.

No. 

Nope only mages of course not trusting anyone is sane thing to do but sometimes you can trust someone mages never as they are unstable not mention that anyone can't destroy half world screaming "i will be god!" or "for elder one".

What? 

[TheKomandorShepard]

 

No. 

What? 

 

Yes unless you want of course deny that abomnations exist and an example of that in ferelden circle but feel free.

That normal person can't create army of undead or cause blight...

[Br3admax]

Yes unless you want of course deny that abomnations exist and an example of that in ferelden circle but feel free.

Most of those were pride abominations and the rest were forced into tortured people. No lore says that a mage can't fight a lesser demon. 

That normal person can't create army of undead or cause blight...

Neither can most mages. What's your point? 

[john-in-france]

Except the Inquisitor isn't a Templar. They can't RP a character who was ever a part of the Templar Order. Even the human ones. 

 

Sorry but I have to disagree. No age is given for the Trevelyan warrior, and the CC shows a wide age range. There is nothing to stop you from RPGing someone who served as a Templar or Templar recruit, before becoming Inquisitor. After all you come from a family with ties to the Chantry and the Templar order.

 

Being honest I'd rather RPG a Templar than a spoiled Noble brat bleating about how hard their life is being expected to follow in family footsteps...

[foolishquinn]

There may well be a middle ground; there is a precedent for it in DA, and Bioware games in general. If not though, playing as a templar who sympathizes with the mages and helps them fight for their freedom could make for a fun role-playing experience.

*I might be a little biased, though*

 

Caedus said this perfectly, but mages are not all undisciplined the arcane knight specialization proved mages did/ may have run with Templar's in tevinter or elsewhere to hunt other mages. 

[Asdrubael Vect]

I loved playing a templar in Origins so I plan on making my Inquisitor a templar. This leaves me with a dilemma.

 

After Kirkwall in DA2 and The White Spire in Asunder, I want to help the mages! On the other hand: I would rather have tough, dependable, knights of the order in my army than raw, undisciplined, mages and it will be far easier for me to fight the mages because I'm templar specced. 

 

Do I help the mages or do I sacrifice my principles for the sake of better allies and an easier battle? If Inquisition doesn't give me a neutral option this is gonna be a tough one...

happy for you, you will already-in the start of your Inquisition have templars and seekers in your ranks..and you know who this would be? those Kirkwall butchers with their captain Cullen who escape execution from Hawke and was putted by Cassanra and resurrected Lelianna to be our general ...and you cant rid of them

 

so you already have templars and seekers soldiers..others are was with Lambers and they would be you enemies for at least some time before you will make a choice to have again only more useless soldiers who will need lyrium drugs to at leasty do somethink or those who was protect themselfs and those who are more experience and have much more powers to fight with deamons and close the fade holes..not talking about other things what they can do wat is makes them as always more valuable for anyones

 

 

and your Inquisitor no matter who he or she is are became mages who do magic to close or open the fade

 

its a pity that we have a magic stick what makes you do what you want and you does not need mages who was the only ones who can do the job....i would like to see how Tempalrs by themself witll fight wtith armies of deamons and ty to close the holes in fade without mages

[Riverdaleswhiteflash]

Sorry but I have to disagree. No age is given for the Trevelyan warrior, and the CC shows a wide age range. There is nothing to stop you from RPGing someone who served as a Templar or Templar recruit, before becoming Inquisitor. After all you come from a family with ties to the Chantry and the Templar order.

 

Being honest I'd rather RPG a Templar than a spoiled Noble brat bleating about how hard their life is being expected to follow in family footsteps...

The problem is that the Human Warrior is from all I can tell supposed to be part of the Trevelyan delegation, not the Templar one. So it'd have to be someone who left the Templar Order, which the Trevelyan family might look askance at.

 

@Asdrubael- Oh look, it's the anti-TKS.

[john-in-france]

The problem is that the Human Warrior is from all I can tell supposed to be part of the Trevelyan delegation, not the Templar one. So it'd have to be someone who left the Templar Order, which the Trevelyan family might look askance at.

 

@Asdrubael- Oh look, it's the anti-TKS.

Part of the Chantry delegation...I see the Templars as splitting into two faction Loyalists and Lamberts extremists...but we have to wait for game play to see. Doesn't hurt to think about it though.

[john-in-france]

happy for you, you will already-in the start of your Inquisition have templars and seekers in your ranks..and you know who this would be? those Kirkwall butchers with their captain Cullen who escape execution from Hawke and was putted by Cassanra and resurrected Lelianna to be our general ...and you cant rid of them

 

so you already have templars and seekers soldiers..others are was with Lambers and they would be you enemies for at least some time before you will make a choice to have again only more useless soldiers who will need lyrium drugs to at leasty do somethink or those who was protect themselfs and those who are more experience and have much more powers to fight with deamons and close the fade holes..not talking about other things what they can do wat is makes them as always more valuable for anyones

 

 

and your Inquisitor no matter who he or she is are became mages who do magic to close or open the fade

 

its a pity that we have a magic stick what makes you do what you want and you does not need mages who was the only ones who can do the job....i would like to see how Tempalrs by themself witll fight wtith armies of deamons and ty to close the holes in fade without mages

 

In your playthrough of DA2 perhaps. Hope you enjoy DAI

 

In my playthroughs things went down differently and I will enjoy using my demon fighting specialists aka Templar skilled warriors...you have read the specializations?

[Br3admax]

Sorry but I have to disagree. No age is given for the Trevelyan warrior, and the CC shows a wide age range. There is nothing to stop you from RPGing someone who served as a Templar or Templar recruit, before becoming Inquisitor. After all you come from a family with ties to the Chantry and the Templar order.

 

Being honest I'd rather RPG a Templar than a spoiled Noble brat bleating about how hard their life is being expected to follow in family footsteps...

Except the backstory of the game. It's on the dragonage.com, incase you didn't know.  

As the youngest child of the Trevelyan noble house, you grew up in the Free Marcher city of Ostwick and have enjoyed a life of privilege. With close family ties to the Chantry, and many relatives among the priesthood and the templars, you were always expected to follow a similar path in service of the Maker—regardless of how you feel about the matter personally. Willing or unwilling, you were sent to the Chantry's conclave to assist relatives who sought to make peace between the templars and mages. It didn't go well.

Emphasis on youngest child. Emphasis on expected to follow. While you can say you were meant to become a Templar, that itself never happened. No matter how much you want to disagree with it. 

[john-in-france]

@Br3admax.

Sorry we'll have to wait and see.

 

It says you were expected to follow the familys footsteps...regardless of your feelings.

It says you were sent as part of the Chantry delegation...willing or not.

It says nothing about age, and what you've been doing with your life between those two statements.

You can choose to play a young person who has so far avoided the family expectations or an older person who fulfilled them. There can be a gap in time or not, and that is where RPG comes in.

 

Regardless of how you read it, DA has always been quite clever in allowing headcannon.

 

I could say that I was always expected to join the military by my father. I did join, the statement is still true. I'm in my 40s and still the youngest child of my parents.

[Darkly Tranquil]

I'd say they've intentionally left it ambiguous enough to allow people their own interpretation, while still locking it down enough to justify the (soon to be) Inquisitor being at the peace conference.

[Br3admax]

It says you've been living in the lap of luxury until the game starts. It says you went to help your family, not that you went with the Chantry. It flat out says you're the youngest member of the House. Headcanon is one thing, but blatantly ignoring what's right in front of you is another. 

[Helios969]

I fail to understand how people choose to RP matters so much to others.

[raging_monkey]

I fail to understand how people choose to RP matters so much to others.

theres bit of elitism regarding it.
Original concepts for chatacters(favored)
Loose interpetations of backgrounds(tolerated)
Self-inserts( lack of imagination and is such generally looked down on)~i fall into this category

Going by this heirarchy theres a clear level of acceptance on how to "correctly" play from what ive seen here on the bsn imo