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#101
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What chances are that 1 mage will find way to brainwash entire humanity , another will find mask to destroy entire humanity , and another will find way to do the same in pretty much in same 10 year peroid of time?Well it seems pretty much chances aren't so small if that happened at least 3 times during 10 years... 

What are the chances that any of the mages who said they were going to do those things knew the scale of what they said they were going to do?



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What are the chances that any of the mages who said they were going to do those things knew the scale of what they said they were going to do?

Big enough to peoples want to stop them from doing so...



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What chances are that 1 mage will find way to brainwash entire humanity , another will find mask to destroy entire humanity , and another will find way to do the same in pretty much in same 10 year peroid of time?Well it seems pretty much chances aren't so small if that happened at least 3 times during 10 years... so pretty much there is plenty ways for mages to screw over human kind.

In case you hadn't notice, pretty much everything Thedas will kill you and most of time chances are you are going to end dying the end of a sword rather then a magical plot by a mage.



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Big enough to peoples want to stop them from doing so...

Yeah, you can be dangerous enough to need killing without the entire world being in danger from you.



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In case you hadn't notice, pretty much everything Thedas will kill you and most of time chances are you are going to end dying the end of a sword rather then a magical plot by a mage.

Yes if you will show me human non-mage with sword that can destroy world well then we will be able to make sword at least some comparisons to magic and i want note that destruction of human kind isn't quite the same as well killing 1 person or 10 or 100 unless of course that is number of human kind.

 

 

Yeah, you can be dangerous enough to need killing without the entire world being in danger from you.

Then you need to be dangerous for someone pretty much keeper , qunari mage (that knew what he was doing) , and peoples who were after him apparently belived that he can do that so well take your pick and do nothing but have fun dealing with army of demons. 



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Big enough to peoples want to stop them from doing so...

I think it's more do to the fact untrained mages are the most likely to become abominations and the fact it's easier to contain an abomination when it's hold up in one place.



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I think it's more do to the fact untrained mages are the most likely to become abominations and the fact it's easier to contain an abomination when it's hold up in one place.

And abomnations aren't danger to the world? As i said guy wanted destroy veil and bring army of demons guy cleary knew what he was doing and well movie showed that he was doing that so well take your pick but it looked dangerous enough and on that what he had in mind...



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Yes if you will show me human non-mage with sword that can destroy world well then we will be able to make sword at least some comparisons to magic and i want note that destruction of human kind isn't quite the same as well killing 1 person or 10 or 100 unless of course that is number of human kind.

We have two maybe three (it depends how the explosion was caused in DA:I) cases where mages have almost caused the destruction of the world, one was the old magister who was ruler of Thedas and no one could stand up against them and who sought power and not the destruction of the world simply because they messed with something that no one could cause such a thing (The Black city is an unknown), two was a mage who was trained to be a weapon of destruction and he carried his mission out to the letter in a bad way.

 

Mages in general don't want to cause the destruction of the world simply because they live in the world and don't want to die, the few that do don't have the power to do it, expect for one who was extremely lucky to find a mask that remained undetected for thousands of years and unused for a very long time.



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Yes if you will show me human non-mage with sword that can destroy world well then we will be able to make sword at least some comparisons to magic and i want note that destruction of human kind isn't quite the same as well killing 1 person or 10 or 100 unless of course that is number of human kind.

We have two maybe three (it depends how the explosion was caused in DA:I) cases where mages have almost caused the destruction of the world, one was the old magister who was ruler of Thedas and no one could stand up against them and who sought power and not the destruction of the world simply because they messed with something that no one could cause such a thing (The Black city is an unknown), two was a mage who was trained to be a weapon of destruction and he carried his mission out to the letter in a bad way.

 

Mages in general don't want to cause the destruction of the world simply because they live in the world and don't want to die, the few that do don't have the power to do it, expect for one who was extremely lucky to find a mask that remained undetected for thousands of years and unused for a very long time.



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And abomnations aren't danger to the world? As i said guy wanted destroy veil and bring army of demons guy cleary knew what he was doing and well movie showed that he was doing that so well take your pick but it looked dangerous enough and on that what he had in mind...

most abominations seems more intent on "seeing" the world through mortal eyes and feed off them and/or conquer the world under their rule rather then destroy it and at times they are also mindless just causing death without much of a plan like Darkspawn.



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Then you need to be dangerous for someone pretty much keeper , qunari mage (that knew what he was doing) , and peoples who were after him apparently belived that he can do that so well take your pick and do nothing but have fun dealing with army of demons. 

Yeah, I'm not denying that the Vashoth mage was dangerous for a whole lot of someones. I'm not denying that he was before he got the mask, and I'm certainly not denying that the mask didn't help much. And at no point have I denied that the world is richer for having lost him. Point is, you haven't sold me on him being dangerous to the entire world. That is an entirely different scale of threat that you haven't sold me on, and that I think is a pretty hasty conclusion on both his part and that of the other characters.



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We have two maybe three (it depends how the explosion was caused in DA:I) cases where mages have almost caused the destruction of the world, one was the old magister who was ruler of Thedas and no one could stand up against them and who sought power and not the destruction of the world simply because they messed with something that no one could cause such a thing (The Black city is an unknown), two was a mage who was trained to be a weapon of destruction and he carried his mission out to the letter in a bad way.

 

Mages in general don't want to cause the destruction of the world simply because they live in the world and don't want to die, the few that do don't have the power to do it, expect for one who was extremely lucky to find a mask that remained undetected for thousands of years and unused for a very long time.

That are are only 3 we know... 2 happened in same 10 years timeline and fourth was as i said danger to human kind.

I have no doubt that most mages don't want cause world destruction i certain way it doesn't rly matter i mean does magisters wanted destroy world ?Does mages want become an abomnations that are threat to the world?No simple mages are endless mine disasters because of their actions and and the possible consequences and their weight regardless of their intentions.And well not to mention crazy mages aren't something that series lacks... 

No one could cause such thing well mages did otherwise there wouldn't be such thing...

So no mages can't do such things how as i said look on last 10 years in da.

 

 

most abominations seems more intent on "seeing" the world through mortal eyes and feed off them and/or conquer the world under their rule rather then destroy it and at times they are also mindless just causing death without much of a plan like Darkspawn.

Not rly see connor or uldred they weren't mindless and rule the world meant pretty much kill everything in their way save for some peoples but it didn't seem that they would spare them for long and well for something different than mind controled puppets or short-term source of entertainment until it bore them.

 

 

Yeah, I'm not denying that the Vashoth mage was dangerous for a whole lot of someones. I'm not denying that he was before he got the mask, and I'm certainly not denying that the mask didn't help much. And at no point have I denied that the world is richer for having lost him. Point is, you haven't sold me on him being dangerous to the entire world. That is an entirely different scale of threat that you haven't sold me on, and that I think is a pretty hasty conclusion on both his part and that of the other characters.

Well if veil destruction is nothing for you i guess you won't do anything about that in dai?As i said he wanted to do that and we saw he was doing what he wanted to do (read destroy veil and bring army of demons to destroy everyone) that and he rather had some idea how masks works. 

 



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1.Haha so what dude?You were talking about pride demons not "greater demons" trying change point of what you said from pride demons to greater demons pretty much their intensity says while they may be more powerful they aren't rly rare what in fact kills your entire point sending mages against them.

I've already shown where the majority of demons were pride and desire, the strongest types of demons known to Thedas. You try to say the Tower was overrun because any type of demon is challenge to the strongest of mages. Nice try. 

 

 

 

2.Not army of demons well they can do that too and technicaly that is in case im speaking about but undead army... and what abomnations can do? Can every mage turn into abomnation? here you go.

Not to your point that they can destroy the world, which no single abomination has ever shown doing, nor being capable of. No mage has ever created an undead army on their own either. You're really grasping at straws here. 

 

Avernus and qunari mage and source of that well dao and dragon age redemption as well simple by fact mage do can do that by simple using magic as asunder show us.That was used to get to black city not just tear veil what avernus just could do using blood magic...

The small tears in the Veil there aren't even comparable to the Breach. Not at all. Even those weren't caused by Avernus. It was caused by the greater demons he summoned. Mages can't tear the Veil of their own power. 



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I've already shown where the majority of demons were pride and desire, the strongest types of demons known to Thedas. You try to say the Tower was overrun because any type of demon is challenge to the strongest of mages. Nice try. 

Not to your point that they can destroy the world, which no single abomination has ever shown doing, nor being capable of. No mage has ever created an undead army on their own either. You're really grasping at straws here. 

The small tears in the Veil there aren't even comparable to the Breach. Not at all. Even those weren't caused by Avernus. It was caused by the greater demons he summoned. Mages can't tear the Veil of their own power. 

Tower was overrun because of demons any kind (at least that known) and every of them was part of that like it or not in fact it started on single pride demon and that is all that pretty much was enough to send circle where it was.Strongest please i never said strongest , strongest like warden , hawke and Corry can handle pride demon but that is way very long way from most of mages that would be pretty much crushed by most of demons. 

 

Of course what is tearing veil or creating army of undead or abomnations i mean nothing i mean demons aren't even almost any danger why even bother stop demon invasion in dai... <sarcasm> Hardly that abomnation could destroy world same for archdemon if they did world wouldn't exist even codex point that pride demon would threaten entire world.For god sake can you read what im telling you instead pretty much ignoring it and writing what you want to read part about every mage can become an abomnation and what abomnation can do please.

 

Of course they aren't but still mages can bring down veil even in that case undesirable what avernus did and that wasn't demon it was because he was summoned demons and pretty much his summoning circles were cause of that...

Again they can but feel free to ignore what im saying what pretty much you did most of time and ignore that even simple using magic can tore veil and we have example like avernus ,qunari mage and possible baroness but here i won't point as we don't know if she was pride demon before or not.

 



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I have a strong feeling that the red Templars will be up to some pretty nasty stuff, given the powers granted by red lyrium.

My templar will try to help his brothers and sisters from the corruption of red lyrium, but if he cannot they will be taken care of.

I really hope we see a behemoth vs pride demon in this game.

Lets get ready to RUMBLLLLLLLLLLE!!!!!