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Plot holes:why developers in the ending of DA2 they use the state of disappeared for warden and now confirm the not appearence in the game?


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dsl08002

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To be blunt. Get over it. We didn't see Morrigan or Shale or Wynne in DA2. and i wished i had, but i got over it because it wasn't their story. This story isn't about The Warden
 
Again i will say this simply. Get over it, its not a big deal, and you should be appreciative David Gaider actually came into your thread to try to discuss this with you but really what it is, is that you're just scorned he won't appear, Even though like in real life, not every issues will be resolved at the same time, and that's what the DA series does, we gets hints and clues, messages and questions that are for a game to come
 
Just get over it. And obviously they aren't Catering to DA2 fans since many DA2 companions have been confirmed to not return, yet we have Leliana and Morrigan as main characters of the game and we know Alistair is making a cameo.


To be blunt, stop this ridicolous " get over with it thing" you are starting to loose your credability.

If someone wants to vents his or hers opinion regarding this its not your place to diminish it.

Besides in first glance DA2 really felt like a continuation of warden and hawke story.

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To be blunt, stop this ridicolous " get over with it thing" you are starting to loose your credability.

If someone wants to vents his or hers opinion regarding this its not your place to diminish it.

Besides in first glance DA2 really felt like a continuation of warden and hawke story.

 

In your first glance, maybe. That is your assumption being wrong. Simple as that. (not trying to be rude, by the way)



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To be blunt, stop this ridicolous " get over with it thing" you are starting to loose your credability.

If someone wants to vents his or hers opinion regarding this its not your place to diminish it.

Besides in first glance DA2 really felt like a continuation of warden and hawke story.

Shouldn't that also include people "venting their opinion" that you need to get over it or are you excempt from the rule?

Also how can DA2 be a continuation of Hawke's story if it started there?

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To be blunt, stop this ridicolous " get over with it thing" you are starting to loose your credability.

If someone wants to vents his or hers opinion regarding this its not your place to diminish it.

Besides in first glance DA2 really felt like a continuation of warden and hawke story.

No it didn't. DA2 had nothing to do with the warden and not even at first glance since the dev's said it wasn't the warden's story. the only thing it shared was flemeth as a plot device and darkspawn for about 15 minutes. and a small amount of cameos. It was its own story completely.

 

And there is a difference from saying. "well i wish he would of shown up". and starting an argumentative thread to bash the writing of a game that hasn't come out. And to keep it going when David Gaider came in here to speak to you. he doesn't give everyone his time but he decided to talk to the people here so they could see his side, but instead people argued with him.

 

And what are you talking about my credibility? that was my first post in this thread because its annoying to see people get mad at choices that are obviously for story reason.

 

Seriously when i hear something i don't like i deal with it and move on. So what the Warden isn't going to be in the game. he doesn't have to. because the series isn't about him. he/she is just a PC in a wonderful game. Nothing more, the series isn't about him or her so they don't ever have to show up if the Writers decide to take the story in the direction. 

 

Just because he/she exist or gets mentioned in a game doesn't mean they have to be in every game as PC or cameo. 

 

And you're telling me to stop telling people to get over it when people are openly bashing the writing of this game just because they didn't get what they want. There is a big difference between voicing an opinion and insulting people because they are trying to make a great experience of a game.


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In your first glance, maybe. That is your assumption being wrong. Simple as that. (not trying to be rude, by the way)


That is just your opinion which is wrong :) if we are going that road

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Not really, considering every single person I know that plays DA both on and off these forums want resolution.  It's not just about me, it's about a huge swathe of the fanbase that would like it.  I can even live without an appearance, but I would like closure one way or another.

 

Oooooo now we are at the "Everyone I know wants this, therefore the majority probably does too!"



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That is just your opinion which is wrong :) if we are going that road

 

Yes. The impression you had about what the game was about. The devs never ever claimed the story would be about the warden.



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Oooooo now we are at the "Everyone I know wants this, therefore the majority probably does too!"

Yeah, because that's what I said...please don't put words in my mouth, nowhere did I claim EVERYONE.  Thanks.



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Well, now you know a few people who don't care about "resolution." Whatever the hell that's supposed to mean in this context, anyway.
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I think they will show the warden and hawke but not for long i think DA 4 will have the warden, Hawke, and the inquisitor 



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I understand the frustration of those that want closure. None of this would have happened if DA2 hadn't said in the epilogue that the warden had disappeared like Hawke.

 

If we later learn that Hawke will appear in DAI, the correlation is obvious, and most people liked the warden more than Hawke. It would have been easier to let the warden stick to her queenly activities or whatever.



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Yeah, because that's what I said...please don't put words in my mouth, nowhere did I claim EVERYONE.  Thanks.

 

"A huge Swathe of the fanbase" implies a majority. 



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"A huge Swathe of the fanbase" implies a majority. 

No it doesn't, it implies a huge swathe of the fanbase... if I'd meant the majority I would have said the majority.



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The warden is not appearing and i have come to terms with it. I dont agree with that decision, thinking its a mistake not to include the warden.

But i have come to terms with it.

But my fear is this: they have said that it will be a story behind it. But im not so sure i want to take that leap of faith. the story itself may be quite cheap. I just hope that they will address and conduct this seriously. And not simply throwing a leftover dinner

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Guess I'll be letting my Warden stay dead so I don't need to worry about this. Sorry for everyone else.

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David Gaider You respond few dude here i hope you explanation why now say "hawke  have a important rol in DAI and before you say "This is the story of inquisitor not of warden 2.0" and now my question is...this is the story of Hawke 2.0?

 

 

why we have obligation of see other time hawke?i hope a differents options for not cooperate with him.

 

 

This is a implementation for change the relation hawke/players?the 90 % of users hate Hawke for the poor story of a fail carácter really the only idea for change this is add Hawke for new companion secret?

 

i think this is a fanservice of the writers for change the visión of players with Hawke.

 

well wardens fans not have a decent closure with a cameo scene of warden but hawke fans have a nice cameo and important rol of hawke in the game?much users feel this,we perceive this with the nice treatment of Hawke compared with Warden.

 

 

i hope have a option for kick the a.... of hawke with my inquisitor remember this is a story with different consecuences,the lineal story is for books.



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90%? You polled them?
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so you found a thread of yours that wasn't closed for some reason and bumped it? srsly dude what is your problem

 

do you want some tea? do you need a hug? what can i do to help you get over this so that you will stop posting about this. 



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this post have responses of David Gaider now with the new information of a very important rol of hawke in the game and only a Little mention of warden i need a explanation why they say first "this is the story of inquisitor"and now they add more protagonism and a posible control of hawke in the game.



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can't a hero sit out an apocalypse immediately after stopping one?

 

give the Warden a vacation


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David Gaider You respond few dude here i hope you explanation why now say "hawke  have a important rol in DAI and before you say "This is the story of inquisitor not of warden 2.0" and now my question is...this is the story of Hawke 2.0?

 

 

why we have obligation of see other time hawke?i hope a differents options for not cooperate with him.

 

 

This is a implementation for change the relation hawke/players?the 90 % of users hate Hawke for the poor story of a fail carácter really the only idea for change this is add Hawke for new companion secret?

 

i think this is a fanservice of the writers for change the visión of players with Hawke.

 

well wardens fans not have a decent closure with a cameo scene of warden but hawke fans have a nice cameo and important rol of hawke in the game?much users feel this,we perceive this with the nice treatment of Hawke compared with Warden.

 

 

i hope have a option for kick the a.... of hawke with my inquisitor remember this is a story with different consecuences,the lineal story ifs for books.

 

deal_with_it__morrigan_edition__dragon_a


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Did you really necro your own thread?


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If you "need" an explanation from David Gaider, I'm guessing you're going to be going needy, because explaining the extent/rationale/involvement of Hawke in the game is 1) a spoiler and 2) not actually something he is obligated to explain to anyone, let alone people who are rudely spamming the forums and trashing his work. 

 

But I did offer to help, so I can pretend to be David Gaider and explain it to you.

 

[dude voice]"Because that's what I did. Also Stroud ate your warden, so he can't come back. Sorry. Shouldn't have made a warden that looked so delicious." 


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SERIOUSLY AGAIN?????

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but they finish DA2 with a relation of disappearances of Warden a Hawnke and now they decide change the idea and only back Hawke,Warden only receive a very poor treatment with mentions and notes.

 

 

much fans wait much time for this game and now they take the decisión of delete the participation of warden in inquisition.

 

 

really i hate this differents treatments of hero,probably in this game Hawke receive a closure of story and Warden only a poor off screen closure