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[LaughingWolf]

This is the consequence for doing the Dark Ritual. Your Warden disappears and no one knows why.

You can either die the hero in DA:O, or you do the Dark Ritual and eventually disappear and are never seen again.

[herkles]

How many times are you going to keep bringing this up?

[themageguy]

Are you kidding me? Do you realise how much i would love to start a topic talking about some aspect of lyrium or character, and have David Gaider reply?

that would be awesome.

But no, instead he has to respond to people whining like you.

For inquisition, Hawke is ten times more important than the hero of fereldan.

It has been explained to you numerous times the reasons why Hawke has a bigger role in inquisition.

If you are not prepared to listen to reason, at least have the decency to stop spamming the forums

[Navoletti]

I only talk of the bad treatment for wardens,they ignore the story open of him.

 

 

Hawke probably in inquisition have a decent closure with a nice cameo and a control,

 

why the fans of wardens have the very poor treatment with a Little off screen closure?

 

 

please unserstand the situation...the more important hero of thedas only have a closure with notes and Little mentions....come on Bioware is the more important hero of thedas he need a decent closure with a control/or cameo scene.

[ghostzodd]

Are you kidding me? Do you realise how much i would love to start a topic talking about some aspect of lyrium or character, and have David Gaider reply?

that would be awesome.

But no, instead he has to respond to people whining like you.

For inquisition, Hawke is ten times more important than the hero of fereldan.

It has been explained to you numerous times the reasons why Hawke has a bigger role in inquisition.

If you are not prepared to listen to reason, at least have the decency to stop spamming the forums

 

 

Why are people making such a big deal about this, why is it wrong to ask why?

[DooomCookie]

I don't want to see my Warden again, ever.  We had such complete head-canon control over our character, it would be impossible for a perfect voiced representation of my character to appear in game.  I also think their plot is over in DAO and it would be inappropriate to give the dead plot the respect it is due.

[Ryzaki]

You guys want BW probably screwing the heck out of your warden's personalities? Because there's a good chance that's exactly what'll happen. (Hell Shepard couldn't even stay goddamn consistent from ME game to ME game in some aspects).

 

I actually wish they'd left Hawke alone too

[TammieAZ]

i not understood why bioware start a expectation with the ending of da2 and the missing state of warden and hawke....they only bring back hawke but not the warden....
 
 
what is your plan with the hero of ferelden/orlesian warden?you have a idea and now decide change the opinión or what?
 
 
much people since the ending of da2 have expectation.
 
why generate false expectations?
 
bioware decide change the state of warden alive for disappeared well now my question is he continue alive or he is death?is very simple respond this for bioware?
 
have a plan for wardens commander(hero or orlesian warden)for future games?please confirm this and stop of generate expectations in the fans of wardens.

Hmm...artistic integrity. ..

[AlanC9]

I
Hawke probably in inquisition have a decent closure with a nice cameo and a control,
 
why the fans of wardens have the very poor treatment with a Little off screen closure?
 
 
please unserstand the situation...the more important hero of thedas only have a closure with notes and Little mentions....come on Bioware is the more important hero of thedas he need a decent closure with a control/or cameo scene.

I don't know what you mean by "a control." I'm also not sure what sort of "closure" you're looking for. I suppose Bio could just go ahead and kill the Warden, but that's obviously not what you're asking for. So... what are you looking for?

[Revan Reborn]

I don't know what you mean by "a control." I'm also not sure what sort of "closure" you're looking for. I suppose Bio could just go ahead and kill the Warden, but that's obviously not what you're asking for. So... what are you looking for?

I believe he is suggesting we either have an expansion or another game where we play as the Warden from DAO.

 

Personally, while I would like to see the whereabouts of the Warden, DG alluded to earlier in the thread that we are likely going to receive an ample amount of information on what happened. I suppose we'll just have to wait and play the game to determine whether we like how the Warden's presence in DAI is handled or not.

 

I wouldn't mind another game playing as the Warden, but given DA's history of going to new protagonists, it isn't likely.

[puppyofwar]

Oh well, pass the popcorn will ya.

[dsl08002]

I believe he is suggesting we either have an expansion or another game where we play as the Warden from DAO.
 
Personally, while I would like to see the whereabouts of the Warden, DG alluded to earlier in the thread that we are likely going to receive an ample amount of information on what happened. I suppose we'll just have to wait and play the game to determine whether we like how the Warden's presence in DAI is handled or not.
 
I wouldn't mind another game playing as the Warden, but given DA's history of going to new protagonists, it isn't likely.

I can be bold enough to say that if bioware bring back the warden as protaganist there will be a lot of happy opinions. The generell opinion regarding the wardens is that fans dont want bioware to change or meddle with the wardens personality if he/she returns as NPC. But return as PC then you are in full controll. It is not uncommon that a triology for movies and games go back to their roots where it all began, usually because they know it works well. So in this case why not go back to the blights and gathering armies, solving problems and so on. It actually works.

BUT I would be careful regarding this story about the warden. It could end up like a wild goose chase. So im having low expectation to avoid a big disapointment.

[Shahadem]

Because it did not fit with the story. This is not the story of the warden part 2.

 

Nothing in the end of DA2 was about setting up the wardens return. Just that they had gone missing

 

But why? My Warden didn't go missing. She's alive and well sitting on the throne of Ferelden.

[Shahadem]

You guys want BW probably screwing the heck out of your warden's personalities? Because there's a good chance that's exactly what'll happen. (Hell Shepard couldn't even stay goddamn consistent from ME game to ME game in some aspects).

 

Shephard was pretty consistent between ME1 and ME2. Still a jerk. http://youtu.be/-PjTuSQNLI4

[LonewandererD]

Shahadem, on 03 Nov 2014 - 8:15 PM, said:

But why? My Warden didn't go missing. She's alive and well sitting on the throne of Ferelden.

I'm afraid headcanon doesn't count, all Warden regardless of how they ended up are listed as MIA at the end of DA2

 

-D-

[nutcrackr]

I wish they never answered any questions pertaining to the Warden. Let the game speak for itself.

[Bugsie]

Why are people making such a big deal about this, why is it wrong to ask why?

Nothing wrong with asking...

However, this dude has created multiple threads that the mods have closed and now he demands a dev answer him.

Pretty sure David Gaider has better things to do.

So in summary...

[Fardreamer]

Okay, let me put it this way. Picture the very end of DA2.

 

"...and then, as Leliana turns to speak to Cassandra, a dagger flies from off camera and plunges into her chest. Her eyes widen, and she falls. Cassandra spins, drawing her sword, but a blast of magic hits her and she also falls to the ground. The camera pans down, and we see the black boots of an unseen figure walking between the fallen pair as the sounds of battle are heard. Ominous music, fade to black."

 

Cliffhanger.

 

"...Leliana and Cassandra look puzzled. Then, the camera showing Cassandra's perspective, we see Leliana's eyes widen and she gasps, as if seeing something behind Cassandra. Cassandra spins around, and we see her shocked face but not who she's looking at. "You?" she cries. Smash cut to black. Ominous music."

 

Cliffhanger.

 

Posing a question, which is unresolved as they walk off?

 

Just an unresolved question, and a hint at the future. Not a cliffhanger.

 

"The Champion is gone... just like the Warden.  This is no coincidence."  The two walk off into a burning city while surrounded by an army of soldiers.

 

I'm pretty damn sure that qualifies as a cliffhanger in every sense of the word...

[Heimdall]

"The Champion is gone... just like the Warden.  This is no coincidence."  The two walk off into a burning city while surrounded by an army of soldiers.
 
I'm pretty damn sure that qualifies as a cliffhanger in every sense of the word...

While I don't agree with Gaider's use of the word Cliffhanger (I've never seen it defined so narrowly), I don't think the end of DA2 necessarily qualifies. It's certainly unresolved and clear sequel bait (Or expansion bait as the case was), but not quite what I'd call a cliffhanger. More of a teaser.

[Bfler]

What are the problems with a living Warden in DA:I? There aren't any problems with the transfer of Shepard from ME 1 to 2 and 3, so it can't be appearance. And if you only make reference to very important decisions, e.g. if he walked through Eluvian, there also can't be any difficulties in this regard.

 

So again, where is the problem?

[LonewandererD]

The problem seems to be the myriad of different wardens types there can be. Hawke is easier to right as Hawke has one of three predetermined personalities (hostile, diplomatic, humorous) so its easy to right dialogue to correspond with each of the three personas, variation can be added in what choices you chose as well as whether or not Hawke is a mage or non-mage, gender shouldn't factor too much. Also Hawke, of either gender, already has a voice actor and voice.

 

The Warden is a much harder to write for as the writer would have to factor in race and class and unlike Hawke the Warden has no persona presets that can be chosen from. The Warden has no voice or voice actor and served as a blank slate onto which a player could project themselves, and one possible outcomes for the warden is death. How can a writer account for all of that? So the writer would have to gloss over huge parts of the warden making an incomplete character, account for EVERYTHING creating an almost insurmountable to write character that could take more time and effort than anything in the game, or create their versions of the character which would be sure to ****** people off. So having a living breathing Warden in Inquisitor is not impossible just very hard to do. Thusly the writers have chosen to keep the Warden return on the backburner for the time being, restricting them to mentions and off-screen activities.

 

That's my view anyway

 

-D-

[Eudaemonium]

Basically including the Warden in a physical cameo would require too many zots for too little gain. It's not cost effective.

[LonewandererD]

Basically including the Warden in a physical cameo would require too many zots for too little gain. It's not cost effective.

Summed my post up even better than I did

 

-D-

[Estelindis]

I'm looking forward to seeing what DA:I does with the Warden, even though she won't appear.  It would bother me if the writers never used her disappearance to further any other plots, but at the moment it doesn't look like they're doing this.

 

This is the consequence for doing the Dark Ritual. Your Warden disappears and no one knows why.

You can either die the hero in DA:O, or you do the Dark Ritual and eventually disappear and are never seen again.

Except that the Warden can survive without doing the Dark Ritual.

[The Elder King]

You guys want BW probably screwing the heck out of your warden's personalities? Because there's a good chance that's exactly what'll happen. (Hell Shepard couldn't even stay goddamn consistent from ME game to ME game in some aspects).
 
I actually wish they'd left Hawke alone too

This. I'm resigned to see My neutral Hawke acting like a pro-mage.