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[Ajna]

So why should Bioware satisfy those people and not me?

Sorry my lord, I forgot the world revolved around you

[Navoletti]

really for Bioware is very easy add a state of dissapear or only mentions...he is gone ohhh what happen with him.....but why not work in a consistent ending for him(for people that have the warden live and for the other the close of stoy of orlesian warden of awakening.

 

 

really is very hard close a story for a old protagonist?

 

come on bioware is very mediocre use the revan 2.0,shepard 2.0 state dissapeared for wardens alive.

[PhroXenGold]

if you see a movie you have a decent ending for you protagonist never is aceptable a ending with a state disappeared,if they have plan of kill ok go,if they have plan of continues with him in future games ok go but the protagonist of DAO need a close in the story.

 

they need close the story but i not accept a state of dissapeared is a solution very easy and mediocre for writers..

 

Yeah, most movies don't end with the protagonist's fate being uncertain. Which is exactly why I think Bioware should do it here. Be different. Don't just follow the way things are usually done. "Stories" aren't always resolved in real life, why should they be in fictional universes? Leaving things unresolved makes it more realistic, believable and immersive.

[PhroXenGold]

Sorry my lord, I forgot the world revolved around you

Aren't you asking for the same thing?

[Kantr]

Yeah, most movies don't end with the protagonist's fate being uncertain. Which is exactly why I think Bioware should do it here. Be different. Don't just follow the way things are usually done. "Stories" aren't always resolved in real life, why should they be in fiction universes? Leaving things unresolved makes it more realistic, believable and immersive.

Also it rules out money making sequels for hollywood if the protag's fate is not known

[AlexiaRevan]

really for Bioware is very easy add a state of dissapear or only mentions...he is gone ohhh what happen with him.....but why not work in a consistent ending for him(for people that have the warden live and for the other the close of stoy of orlesian warden of awakening.

 

 

really is very hard close a story for a old protagonist...

 

come on bioware is very mediocre use the revan 2.0,shepard 2.0 state dissapeared for wardens alive.

If they give you an ending , it mean the story of the Warden is OVER . DOne witH ! 

If they leave as it is , it give them more opening for more stories about your warden . 

The next game isn't about your warden but the Inquisitor . Which is fine , maybe the one after it will be about the warden..or Hawke..or Flemeth..or Gamlen....

[Kantr]

If they give you an ending , it mean the story of the Warden is OVER . DOne witH ! 

If they leave as it is , it give them more opening for more stories about your warden . 

The next game isn't about your warden but the Inquisitor . Which is fine , maybe the one after it will be about the warden..or Hawke..or Flemeth..or Gamlen....

You left out sandal.

[TheLittleBird]

really for Bioware is very easy add a state of dissapear or only mentions...he is gone ohhh what happen with him.....but why not work in a consistent ending for him(for people that have the warden live and for the other the close of stoy of orlesian warden of awakening.

 

 

really is very hard close a story for a old protagonist...

 

come on bioware is very mediocre use the revan 2.0,shepard 2.0 state dissapeared for wardens alive.

 

Is it really so hard to understand that we don't know anything other than that we won't see the Warden? For all we know the Warden sends us letters like every 5 in-game minutes!

[NUM13ER]

Hawke is a lot easier to implement due to the set voices, gender, race and even personality. The Warden presented a whole different kind of challenge.

To be honest, considering the issues I had with Revan's and the Exile's appearances in The Old Republic, I'm actually happy enough to have the Wardens actions be "off-screen" as it were. Might allow them more flexibility. 

[Ianamus]

How could they include a character with no voice and no personality?

 

Hawke was a stretch, expecting to have the Warden as a prominent character in game as well was just being delusional.

[PhroXenGold]

If they give you an ending , it mean the story of the Warden is OVER . DOne witH ! 

If they leave as it is , it give them more opening for more stories about your warden . 

The next game isn't about your warden but the Inquisitor . Which is fine , maybe the one after it will be about.....Gamlen....

 

I want that game...

[Ajna]

Aren't you asking for the same thing?

Not really, considering every single person I know that plays DA both on and off these forums want resolution.  It's not just about me, it's about a huge swathe of the fanbase that would like it.  I can even live without an appearance, but I would like closure one way or another.

[AlexiaRevan]

You left out sandal.

My bad...and sandal..and the Halla you save in Origins..and Loghain as a Zombie...and the Desire demon in the basement!...did I forget anyone ? oh and Howe.....as a slave in Antiva !   

[Sifr]

For you it is yes, but for many many others it's not okay at all.

 

But it would be kind of ludicrous to have the Warden keep showing up to solve every little crisis that happens in Thedas.

 

The Wardens job is to kill Darkspawn and sure, they are very good at it. But the political problems in Kirkwall in DA2 would have been outside of their ability to change, while the Fade tearing itself a new one in DAI is something that they'd have absolutely no ability to help with aside from killing the odd demon?

 

What's wrong with them simply wanting to do their own thing for a bit, now the Blight's over and done with? Unless it's Darkspawn related, I'd daresay they've earned themselves a rest and the right to use a get-out-of-jail-free card from ever having to lift a finger again.

 

Noble: Warden Commander, we desperately need your hel-

Warden: Get Stroud.

Noble: But Warden Commander, we-

Warden: STROUD!

[Navoletti]

yeah but they start with expectation ok,they use the situation of warden in the ending of DA2,they change my warden state alive for disappeared....well now my question is he continues live or he is death.

 

is very simple for bioware respond in the next game this?or future games?

[AlexiaRevan]

 

To be honest, considering the issues I had with Revan's and the Exile's appearances in The Old Republic, I'm actually happy enough to have the Wardens actions be "off-screen" as it were. Might allow them more flexibility.

Same..if they do the same here..I go nerd Rage lolol 

[Felya87]

So why should Bioware satisfy those people and not me?

because you are just a troll 

[PhroXenGold]

To be honest, considering the issues I had with Revan's and the Exile's appearances in The Old Republic, I'm actually happy enough to have the Wardens actions be "off-screen" as it were. Might allow them more flexibility. 

 

Thats another reason not to resolve things. Whatever resolution they go for will likely ****** off more people than it satisfies...

[Navasha]

Sorry OP, nothing about that scene makes the expectation for the return of the Warden.   Cassandra and Leliana clearly are looking for a hero to 'save' the world that is falling apart.   They looked for the HoF and couldn't find them.    Then they interrogated Varric to find the Champion.    They were looking probably for a leader of the Inquistion.   

 

Nothing there indicates anything about a return of either of them.

[PhroXenGold]

because you are just a troll 

 

Actually, I'm not. That particular comment was a joke (hint, it had a smiley). My remarks on not wanting the warden's story to be resolved are completely serious as I feel it makes for much more interesting storytelling to leave things like that uncertain.

[Ajna]

But it would be kind of ludicrous to have the Warden keep showing up to solve every little crisis that happens in Thedas.

 

The Wardens job is to kill Darkspawn and sure, they are very good at it. But the political problems in Kirkwall in DA2 would have been outside of their ability to change, while the Fade tearing itself a new one in DAI is something that they'd have absolutely no ability to help with aside from killing the odd demon?

 

What's wrong with them simply wanting to do their own thing for a bit, now the Blight's over and done with? Unless it's Darkspawn related, I'd daresay they've earned themselves a rest and the right to use a get-out-of-jail-free card from ever having to lift a finger ever again.

 

Noble: Warden Commander, we desperately need your hel-

Warden: Ask Stroud.

Noble: But Warden Commander, we-

Warden: STROUD!

I'm not talking about the Warden showing up to save the day, where on earth did you get that from?  I'm in the closure camp, that's all...I'd like resolution for my warden, especially since she's the Queen of sodding Ferelden.

[AlexiaRevan]

I want that game...

I give Gamlen save the Blooming Rose movie..if you give me Blasto cure the Genophage !   

[TheLittleBird]

yeah but they start with expectation ok,they use the situation of warden in the ending of DA2,they change my warden state alive for disappeared....well now my question is he continues live or he is death.

 

is very simple for bioware respond in the next game this?or future games?

 

They never said they aren't going to respond to that.

[Felya87]

Actually, I'm not. That particular comment was a joke (hint, it had a smiley). My remarks on not wanting the warden's story to be resolved are completely serious as I feel it makes for much more interesting storytelling to leave things like that uncertain.

mine was a joke too. that's why there was the smiley (this  )

 

I think the warden disappearance shouldn't have been mentioned in DA2 at all. Otherwise, no one would have the expectation of seeing the Warden. People have worked hard to have certain ending for their wardens, the "he/she disappear" is quite a kick in the teeth for them.

A royal doesn't disappeare like this. and so a Warden Commander.

 

And seeing Hawke, a not so much loved character by many reappear, while a much more loved one like the Warden doesn't, expecially after the tease about them disappearing for the same reason, is quite annoyng for many.

 

I hope at least there are heavy mentions of the Warden, at least, since not only we will met a lot of the older companions, but seems like the Inquisition will have business with the Gray Wardens. A Warden Commander that doesn't appear will be quite strange, howerver.

[Orzammar OG]

It would only be a plothole if the Warden's absence wasn't explained in DA:I. Which it will be.