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[dogstar12]

If the Warden does not appear I will very disappointed as it will show a lack of story. If they don't want the warden why did they put the choice of saving the warden with the dark ritual. And at the end of DA2 with Leliana and Cass say that the warden is one who could bring peace between the Mages and Templers so the warden has to be in the game

[Gregolian]

I don't think we will see the Warden.  Will we hear he/she is off doing something, or get some of their old gear (like that sword from Awakening and such) I could see.  It would be cool if there is something of a CC for Hawke and one for the Warden but the Warden appears as a statue or some such thing at Weisshaupt or in Denerim/Redcliffe

[zqrahll]

I am very concerned that the Grey Warden, who should be one of the most important people alive (as DA2 outright stated), has basically been dropped because it appears too hard for Bioware to write a good conclusion.  It is especially galling after DA2 basically saying we need both the Warden & Hawke to stop World War Thedas, yet it appears that Bioware instead decided to create a new character & new threat instead of what could have been a very interesting Civil War.

 

Maybe we will still get part of a war between Mages & Templars, but that will not be the main thread, and I will bet you anything that we do not get to actually choose how that war plays out-- Bioware will have some sort of cease-fire/peace treaty to keep the plot from spinning out of control.  There is no way they make 2 versions of DA4 with the Mages victorious in 1 & the Templars victorious in the other.

 

It is basically the same thing as ME4-- they have to do a spin off because they cannot spark the ending controversy back up by picking 1 color as canon.

[aTigerslunch]

We have to solve Templar/Mage thing with the Inquisitor. It also happens soonish, hence the ability to have Mage Tower in Skyhold, if side with mages that is.

 

The Warden doesn't need to be solved in DA:I, they could be going, which I prefer, and I don't need to know what comes of the Warden anyways. If you prefer a conclusion to the Warden then go back to the Ultimate Sacrifice instead, solves the problem of those that want to kill a Warden off. I don't get why its necessary to conclude a death.

[Notshauna]

The Warden is really challenging because they can be so many things and were silent but, I feel like they just need to rip the band-aid off and have a voice for each Warden and a simple questionaire on the Keep to try and fill out their personality. There isn't a way to satisfy everyone here, and that's just a fact of it all. I'd personally rather them handle this quickly so we can have our Wardens', Hawkes' and Inquisitors' appearance and personality nailed down so when DA:4 or a standalone DLC comes around we can avoid this mess. I seriously doubt we'd see the Warden die so unceremoniously but by the same token I don't want to see the Warden just show up to say hi and leave, they should only be involved when it matters (as Hawke matters to the Mage Templar War). And besides she's a busy lady, Amaranthine/all of Ferelden isn't going to rule itself.

[zqrahll]

^^ Tigerslunch, I never said I wanted the Warden to die.  I want good writing for why the Grey Warden just wandered off somewhere when he should be one of the most important people in the world.  

 

And as for "solving" the Mage/Templar war that is the exact opposite of what I want to see.  If they are going to give us such a rip off instead of an actual war between those factions, then I will not be buying this game.   Build up a conflict for both games & multiple books/comics/movies (basically everything Dragon Age) then just "peace treaty" it away will make me lose all respect for Bioware & I will stop buying any of their games.

[aTigerslunch]

Hero's need a break.

 

Also, the war was happening while we sat and waited to hear about the Inquisition, Last Flight I think actually has some mentions. Mages and Templars running to the Grey Wardens to stay out of the fight was brought up. The Templar vs Mage isn't what Inqusition is about but that Exalted March deal I think is supposed to be. I didn't mean that it will get solved within two minutes, I hope not. Also, red Templars will always be a threat for some time it appears too.  There will be a mage tower option if sided with the mages at Skyhold. They mentioned that Mage Templar war will be dealt with early on as well.

 

Since I haven't played it, along with the rest of us, we don't have exact details. I know what I said is mentioned and the farmer being killed by Templars was mentioned, cause they somehow mistook him as a mage due to the shovel blade stuck in ground...weird thing that.

[StrangeStrategy]

As others have stated... It is weird. My warden wouldn't be the type to disappear... Some wardens end up being the king or queen of Ferelden. Royalty just doesn't disappear and nobody cares... atleast, not outside Orlais.

 

This is also weird since Morrigan is showing up. Which means something happened to Wardens who went through the mirror with her. She'd know where he is.

I guess my first playthrough (and the majority) will be the Noble Sacrifice ending so I don't have to deal with this loose end.

[Araceil]

I personally think this is a great decision, there is just too many ways that they could mess something like this up given the nature open nature of the Warden. Also how long has it been since the Wardens joining, something like 10/11 years right? So surly the time of his/hers calling would be coming up soon as well. 

[bazzag]

I believe theres supposed to be something like 5 games in the DA series. Theres plenty of time for the hero of ferelden to make his grand appearance.

[Genuine UK]

well my warden went into the Eluvian with Morrigan in the witch hunt dlc was hoping he would have some role in Inquisition with Morrigan having sutch a major role

[aerisblight]

My warden is busy being pregnant from Alistair, so It's fine she won't be around

[LonewandererD]

Would I like to see the Warden? Yes. Am I concerned if he/she doesn't show? No.

 

The warden would make for an excellent cameo but an inconvenient one. An advantage with Hawke is all though everyone has their own Hawke you know that he/she comes from the same place and ends up in basically the same point with every one with variations on certain points. The Warden is far more complex, multiple starting and ending points makes for a difficult character to account for in every regard. Also, consider this. They are bringing in Hawke and they can't half ass it; they seem really determined to make DA:I the best it can be and maybe also make up for some past disappointments, IMO anyway. To make both the Inquisitor and Hawke work well would be no small feat, add in the Warden and you could have a situation in which everyone is there but the effort to properly represent all of them could lead to a lot of unsatisfied people. Best let them focus on what they have now and give more time for the Warden later if need be.

 

That being said I still want to see my Warden and get some closure on his story; he's a curious fellow but even he would grow bored of the Eluvian at some point

 

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[dogstar12]

I would be bad if the Warden story did not get closure. The first game was based around the Warden and for him/her to disappear and not get closure would  very bad idea on Bioware part. As I said before the Warden and Hawke are major players in Mage Templar war as the Divine set Lelianna and Cassandra to find them both so it would ruin the story for just Hawke to show up. And what about the people who chose to bed  Morrigan  and be the father to the old baby will that  et finished.  My Warden love interest Lelianna would love to see her warden  

[ShadesX1]

All the points being stated here are precisely my point, No matter what your warden is or isn't doing don't you want to know? This isn't just about the mage/templar war, the fade has ripped itself open The Warden Commander wouldn't notice this and do something? If not WHY? Where did they go? What happened? This is the Hero of Ferelden they don't stay idle unless they have to.

[In Exile]

I am very concerned that the Grey Warden, who should be one of the most important people alive (as DA2 outright stated), has basically been dropped because it appears too hard for Bioware to write a good conclusion. It is especially galling after DA2 basically saying we need both the Warden & Hawke to stop World War Thedas, yet it appears that Bioware instead decided to create a new character & new threat instead of what could have been a very interesting Civil War.

Maybe we will still get part of a war between Mages & Templars, but that will not be the main thread, and I will bet you anything that we do not get to actually choose how that war plays out-- Bioware will have some sort of cease-fire/peace treaty to keep the plot from spinning out of control. There is no way they make 2 versions of DA4 with the Mages victorious in 1 & the Templars victorious in the other.

It is basically the same thing as ME4-- they have to do a spin off because they cannot spark the ending controversy back up by picking 1 color as canon.

The warden is not important (by outward appearances). You end the 5th blight, but you are so awesome at doing it no one outside Ferelden really believes it was a blight. Stopping the architect is another unknown. It's just another darkspawn raid.

As far as Thedas is concerned, the warden is just a badass Ferelden warden. You're the equivalent of Loghain post independence. A notable Ferelden hero, but not someone important on a global scale.

Leliana knows you're a big deal because she's been with you, but the rest of Thedas doesn't.

[ShadesX1]

The warden is not important (by outward appearances). You end the 5th blight, but you are so awesome at doing it no one outside Ferelden really believes it was a blight. Stopping the architect is another unknown. It's just another darkspawn raid.

As far as Thedas is concerned, the warden is just a badass Ferelden warden. You're the equivalent of Loghain post independence. A notable Ferelden hero, but not someone important on a global scale.

Leliana knows you're a big deal because she's been with you, but the rest of Thedas doesn't.

Also Morrigan and any other companions that happen to survive. The only 2 we know for certain are Leiliana and Morrigan but if Alistair is king then most likely him, no word on Sten, Sevren, Shale should still be around, possibly Oghren, Wynne not neccesarily (her fate is shared in a novel I believe). Then there are the Awakening companions, we know about Anders, Oghren again, Valenna (though it seems like she disappears in all endings), and Sigrun.

[Grieving Natashina]

Sten is the new Arishok.  I'm pretty sure we'll end up seeing him again.  Shale is certainly still around as of Asunder, and Wynne's fate was indeed being addressed in the same book.  

[dgcatanisiri]

TBH, I was content with calling both the Warden and Hawke's disappearance a preemptive answer to 'where are they during Inquisition?' and not having seen either of them. So I'm happy with no appearance from the Warden, especially considering the Warden wasn't even voiced. I didn't want to suddenly meet a voiced Warden the game wanted to call the same character I'd played in Origins.

[ShadesX1]

TBH, I was content with calling both the Warden and Hawke's disappearance a preemptive answer to 'where are they during Inquisition?' and not having seen either of them. So I'm happy with no appearance from the Warden, especially considering the Warden wasn't even voiced. I didn't want to suddenly meet a voiced Warden the game wanted to call the same character I'd played in Origins.

This Doesn't seem like a cop out to you?

[Dr. Rush]

I think showing the warden in any way in DAI is going to be a disaster. 

[Boss Fog]

This Doesn't seem like a cop out to you?

Saying someone is "gone" at the end of the game doesn't hold you to do anything for the next game.  This is simply fans placing an expectation over Bioware's head that was never really there in the first place.  It's not a marketing gimmick; it's a plot point that had no real deadline for when it had to be addressed.  Comparing this to a ME3 situation where it seems their marketing campaign outright lied is another matter entirely and I'm having a real hard time figuring out how you would even associate the two situations.

[In Exile]

Also Morrigan and any other companions that happen to survive. The only 2 we know for certain are Leiliana and Morrigan but if Alistair is king then most likely him, no word on Sten, Sevren, Shale should still be around, possibly Oghren, Wynne not neccesarily (her fate is shared in a novel I believe). Then there are the Awakening companions, we know about Anders, Oghren again, Valenna (though it seems like she disappears in all endings), and Sigrun.

 

All of these people are unimportant randoms, except for Alistair if he happens to be King. And even then, you're still just a local Ferelden hero. No one in Orlais would give a fig about your existence. 

[R0vena]

Am I curious about fate of my Warden? Yes.

But I"d rather never hear about it at all than have a-la-Revan conclusion. 

So if the story behind Warden's disappearance will not be explained I'll be fine with it. At least I can headcanon what I like then.