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#101
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hes bioHawke now

 

Well, yeah, much the same as the Warden would be bioWarden now. People talking about how the Warden had such depth of characterisation seem to be forgetting that a significant portion of that depth was in headcanon and had nothing to do with the game they were playing. If the Warden appeared they would be incredibly limited in what they could do or who they could be. Hawke at least had a dominant tone that could be used to dictate general personality type. The Warden had none of this. It's much easier to include the Warden in some kind of codex entry or unseen role where they violate the only thing that gave them depth (the player's headcanon) as little as possible.

 

People keep talking about the Warden having loads of depth vis-a-vis Hawke and is thus more worthy of inclusion without the recognition that its precisely that mostly-imaginary depth that precisely prevents her or his inclusion.


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Who would be satisfied if the warden makes a cameo in the beginning of the game and dies protecting Morrigan or something similar?

If that would happen I would pretend it was not my Warden but some crazy look alike who managed to fool everybody else.

 

I personally prefer my heroes not to die unless it is my choice in the game itself.


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If that would happen I would pretend it was not my Warden but some crazy look alike who managed to fool everybody else.

I personally prefer my heroes not to die unless it is my choice in the game itself.



#104
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I don't want my Warden to die either but seeing how I romanced Morrigan did DR went through the portal if will not make sense to me if he is not there at all. Can't wait to play this game either way thou

#105
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@Revan248

 

Well, not all Wardens romanced Morrigan. Some wardens are even dead, for that matter.

And alas, developers need to find an explanation which suits every possibility.

 

I personally would be content with news like; some super important stuff is going on... somewhere, Warden investigates/takes care of it and thus can not participate in present events.

 

I also am very curious what we  will find out about our Warden (if alive), I just really don't want Revan/Exile outcome in the end.



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Who would be satisfied if the warden makes a cameo in the beginning of the game and dies protecting Morrigan or something similar?

 

My warden would not do that.

 

said crazy evil clone might but not my warden. 



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I couldn't care less.



#108
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My Hero of Ferelden is dead unlike my Orlesian Warden-Commander.  

 

I wonder how Bioware will deal with that.



#109
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hes bioHawke now

I am surprised at the lack of outrage with regards to this.

 

Unless I missed something . . .



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My Hero of Ferelden is dead unlike my Orlesian Warden-Commander.  
 
I wonder how Bioware will deal with that.

Orlesian warden replaced your warden if he's dead in Awakening, so shlee could easily fill the role again.

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Now for me, there are some things that should be resolved - the main plot of a game should be settled. So DA:O had to resolve the threat to Fereldan from the Blight, DA2 had to resolve the issues with the Qunari and the Mage/Templar conflict in Kirkwall and DA:I should resolve the immediate threat to Thedas from the rifts. But the first two of those things have been settled and it's highly likely that the latter will be by the end of Inqusition.

 

But resolving everything, even if the game series is ending, is to me at least, boring. I hated that ME3 basically wrapped up all the major problems affecting the galaxy. I want there to be unresolved issues. I want there to be things I don't discover. Why? Because that, for me, makes the world feel more immersive and believable. No one can solve everything. Having everything nicely wrapped up just makes the setting and the characters that were able to do so unbelievable.

 

Well, not EVERY major problem affecting the galaxy. It is empty of Mass Effect relays now. 



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None.



#113
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My Hero of Ferelden is dead unlike my Orlesian Warden-Commander.  

 

I wonder how Bioware will deal with that.

 

From the Twitch stream they said they are looking into a way to deal with just this issue for the keep.



#114
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Im a little disappointed about the Warden and the fact he doesn't show up in DA:Inquisition. I mean, the blight was one of the most fearsome foes for the Farelden's peoples, and not only to them, but to the whole world. In Inquisition, we see some sort of blight, just bigger, strongher, end even more deadly. So why does the man who has faced the problem last time, now don't reappears to help out? Really, to me it makes no sense...



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From any standpoint I believe that it is important for the Warden to reappear; if not in Inquisition in the flesh, then at least in some reference that explains his or her location.  Most of us played DAO several times and had several Wardens, possibly with differing endings.  But nonetheless, the Warden character was the prime focal point at which the game ended.  In DA2 there was minimal reference to the Warden, but the implication was that (s)he was still around somewhere.  It would be unacceptable for the character to now just drop of the face of the planet with no explanation.  For me, personally, I would sadly miss my Warden and would love to see her return in the flesh.


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From any standpoint I believe that it is important for the Warden to reappear; if not in Inquisition in the flesh, then at least in some reference that explains his or her location.  Most of us played DAO several times and had several Wardens, possibly with differing endings.  But nonetheless, the Warden character was the prime focal point at which the game ended.  In DA2 there was minimal reference to the Warden, but the implication was that (s)he was still around somewhere.  It would be unacceptable for the character to now just drop of the face of the planet with no explanation.  For me, personally, I would sadly miss my Warden and would love to see her return in the flesh.

 

From a story-telling point of view, not addressing the status of the Warden would, quite frankly, result in a terrible story. Anyone that understands story structure, knows you cannot make a character carry out an action ( i.e. disappear) without giving a cause and a resulting effect or a foreshadowed effect. For example if a character disappears you can justify it by saying it is within their character to do so or another scenario is to say the character was taken against their will, in the latter scenario you have to address the circumstances surrounding that event and/or the effect of them being taken, you don't have to do it right away but you have to do it or else what is the point of that bit of the story.

 

Example:

Person A and Person B are having an intimate discussion about the state of affairs of their nation, Person A an avid supporter of the royal family is arguing that they should be allowed to rule as a monarchy, Person B counter-arguing that the nation needs a ruling body elected by the people not a single family that rules forever. When suddenly Person C swoops in through the window and slaps Person A, mid-sentence, across the face with all the force he can muster from his stocky, 6'4" frame and then jumps back out the window again. Person A finishes up his proposal of a royal family stating that a single guiding hand is what the nation needs right now and Person B counters that a single hand is needed but a hand elected by the people.

 

See that ^. Without the context of Person C being a ghost that scenario makes no damn sense. You would expect some response wouldn't you from A and B but nothing, not even a 'swooping is bad'. Ergo Thedas must respond to the Warden being gone/not present to deal with the Inquisition and if not Thedas, then Ferelden and if not Ferelden, then the one he romanced would most certainly have something to say about him. Of course this only applies if the Warden has made those connections and isn't dead.


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#117
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Whatever happens it won't be worse than what TOR did to poor Revan. I'd rather the Warden not appear at all than have a fake, standardised version forced upon everyone.


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