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If it makes sense in the story

[Cyonan]

I'd like to see it where it makes sense, such as the Fenris/Blood Mage thing. The whole elf thing will be fine with me as long as it fits.

 

That said you can't really get too far into it without the number of companions needed becoming completely absurd, but I still didn't care much for Dragon Age 2's player sexual.

[Jagrevi]

The "realism" thing I think is always a bit of an odd argument when it comes to things like Dragon Age's 2 "player sexual" thing. While, yeah, I much prefer to have more texture to the romances and I even like adding race into the mix where appropriate, I don't necessarily know if "realism" should be the highest goal here.

 

"You know, realistically, it should be harder for gay people to find a good partner in a small group than this, because they're not this % of the population on Earth"

 

Surely player-convenience is some factor in all of this. The first goal should always be players having fun.

[Starscream723]

*"is this game deterministic on any level", rather. That's what I get for re-writing a sentence 3 times on a form with no apparent "edit post" button for responses. =P

 

I thought there was an edit button?

 

edit: Yep, it's at the bottom of the post, just to the left of the "Hide" button.

 

Hey, there's a tick box too, to add an "Edit by" line. I don't normally tick it, but what the hell.

Modifié par Starscream723, 02 octobre 2014 - 12:16 .

[Jagrevi]

There might be, but there was no apparent edit button. I am ignorant of the placement of the edit button, in the least.

[Devil's Avocado]

I don't mind any of the gating since it's reflecting of how life usually is.

 

Now that being said, I await the day they gate romances to how fast you can complete the CC

[n7stormrunner]

gender: no problems with, though it means in DA I my femqunmage gets the elf girl not my male elf. but I don't think thats a downside.

 

race: long as it not all of them. 

 

spec: one or two only.

 

cc: gods no. don't wanta have to redo 20 hours of gameplay because LI doesn't like nose 5.

 

anf if they really get to it, must have one bi male and one bi female who doesn't care . so everyone has at least one.

[Starscream723]

There might be, but there was no apparent edit button. I am ignorant of the placement of the edit button, in the least.

 

I feel you may have missed the edited version of the post you were replying to. 

[Jagrevi]

I, uh ... may have at that.

[Nayawk]

Gender-Bending is an acquired taste. It ruins some people escapism, not adds to it. It's cool that some people love playing opposite gender PCs, but "Just play a girl/guy" wasn't a cool answer when people wanted Gay romances, so I don't know why it would be now.

 

The problem with the "just play as a guy/girl" was that in many games of the past gay romances weren't open to anyone, that isn't the case here, there is at least 2 choices for everyone, this is good and how it should be. Even with the race/gender/spec gating I'd be happy with there would still be someone for any PC combination. 

 

The point I was making is that the complaint seemed to be that "well I want to romance *that* specific NPC, but they turned me down" rather than "I want to play a gay PC and noone will love me up".  There is a difference.

[Zombie_Alexis]

Alistair and Morrigan were gender gated in DAO, so that's not new. I kind of like the gender and race gating. It adds replay value by encouraging people to try different races and genders. So +10 in my book.

[CrabbyCrackers]

I have no issue with anything that adds more depth to game people. I how ever have an issue with ones like fenris who loved you even is you were a blood mage.

[ShadowLordXII]

The Gender/Sexual Preference thing makes sense to me.

 

But the strict "do not pass go" race-gating goes too far and doesn't add anything that isn't already there.

 

Now racial/cultural hurdles would add flavor as it's something for the characters to work with and see through. But don't tell me that a strictly race-gated character doesn't have at least an undertone of racial prejudice and prejudice tends to weaken a character for me.

 

And again, what's the point?

[ShadyKat]

Don't really care. I was hoping for only two romances, a female dwarf and a female qunari. Safe to say got neither of them. Seriously have no clue who my dwarf main will romance when I play Inquisition.

[Jagrevi]

I don't know if I agree with the notion that having a preference in mate based on gender is acceptable but having a preference in mate based on race is unacceptable. I'm sure there are a lot of people who have "racial preferences" in their mate based on bigotry, but I have to honestly admit that I find myself physically attracted to certain ethnicities in lieu of others (expressed by those ethnicities' physical characteristics and their prominence).

 

This is literally just "physical form X I find attractive, physical form Y I do not" - is that really bigotry? It's not based in any narrative, it's based on sexual response. And, if this is acceptable with the comparatively minor variations in human ethnic phenotypes, certainly it's even more acceptable with Thedas' ... effective sub-species.

[vanom66]

I'm glad there's more character base prerequisite to romances  it can  compliment the companion's stance/ideals (i.e wont date mages , or human or whatever)   by them having their unique preference  feels far more organic then what was presented in DA2 which ughh I hated .

[Jagrevi]

I would put forward that bigotry requires the existence of some form of mental narrative ("He's an X, and X's are {objectively unflattering characteristic} "). In this regard, I don't think having race-gating in the romance options should have an undertone of racial prejudice any more than gender-based-sexual-orientation should have an undertone of sexism.

[Jagrevi]

"by them having their unique preferences"

 

So I think the question is then, if we are already accepting some form of romance gating, should we desire to see a greater diversity in the characteristics used for such gating?

 

A character who will date either gender, but only other Dwarves?

A straight character who will only date other Mages?

Someone in this thread mentioned a "only dates bearded men" romance opportunity as a joke, but honestly I think it could be fun to see some "beard reactivity", and what more logical place than in romance?

 

[sumojellybean]

I don't put that much emotional attachment to romances prior to game release, otherwise it'll ruin my realizations that I won't be able to play my story that I've been headcanoning for months.

 

That said, I don't mind the gender gating/ race gating thing. If Bioware wants to write characters that aren't playersexual, then good for them.

 

As long as the character has a good written romance arc, then I /might/ consider romancing them depending if it fits my character's story. My gay Hawke romanced no one in the end because Anders and Fenris romance arcs weren't really that good TBH, and the friendship arc with Zevran fit my f!Surana's relationship with him more than the romance one.

[Arvaarad]

Sure, people have preferences, why wouldn't characters have them too?

Besides, it's nice to see pan and bi companions without people thinking of their orientation as a game mechanic. I got so tired of people saying "why do the DA2 companions switch orientations from playthrough to playthrough" when bisexuality, pansexuality, and "I haven't thought much about my sexuality but I'm attracted to you" all are states real people can exist in.

Hopefully having bi and pan companions distinct from the gay and straight companions will help underscore this. Though I've already seen commenters lumping them in with one side or the other, so who knows. :/

[aTigerslunch]

Classgated deal is interesting, and this is where those that complain about chantry, anti-chantry romancing stuff can actually chime in on.

[Han Shot First]

I'm in favor of the potential LIs resembling real people.

 

So I suppose that also puts me in favor of some gating, in whatever form that takes. Of course it also depends on how the character is written. Their preferences have to actually make sense for the character and not seem arbitrary. 

[AresKeith]

Classgated deal is interesting, and this is where those that complain about chantry, anti-chantry romancing stuff can actually chime in on.

 

Though specialization-gating would probably work better than the class themselves

[Cyonan]

"by them having their unique preferences"

 

So I think the question is then, if we are already accepting some form of romance gating, should we desire to see a greater diversity in the characteristics used for such gating?

 

A character who will date either gender, but only other Dwarves?

A straight character who will only date other Mages?

Someone in this thread mentioned a "only dates bearded men" romance opportunity as a joke, but honestly I think it could be fun to see some "beard reactivity", and what more logical place than in romance?

 

While it would be interesting to see, the problem you run into at that point is that you only have so many companions.

 

and you don't really want to leave somebody with nobody to romance =P

[SamanthaJ]

I really like that with the diverse sexualities among the love interests no one can write bi/pan characters off as a game mechanic, so I am definitely for gender gating. Race gating I don't mind as long as it isn't outright racism. I do prefer story reasons to preferences (such as the idea that Solas's romance could possibly revolve around elven things that characters of another race wouldn't get). I don't like the idea of class gating, however. I wouldn't mind if it was due to specializations, however, because there are a lot of characters whom I cannot see accepting a blood mage as a partner. Also, I would actually like gating to happen due to choices made in game. It was really, really dumb for Fenris not to end a romance with a Hawke who said "slaves are useful" in regards to taking in Orana. Gating due to CC comment is a big NO.